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[Adagio]

If you do choose a Qunari alliance, do you think it will affect future DAI DLC? Or will just be another thing to add to the keep?

[Fiery Phoenix]

It might affect DLC, but I don't think it will go beyond that.

[Epzaos]

The whole point of the alliance is to put down Corypheus, and the Venatori, and halt the spread of Red Lyrium.

I assume they will call off the alliance once this is done.

Unless they have plans on using the alliance to spread the Qun even further.

[SgtSteel91]

Anyone think the alliance would be a first step in achieving peace/coexistence with the Qunari? That's like the biggest reason I go for it.

[The Baconer]

Anyone think the alliance would be a first step in achieving peace/coexistence with the Qunari? That's like the biggest reason I go for it.

 

There can be no peace. We must destroy them.

[Bad King]

Anyone think the alliance would be a first step in achieving peace/coexistence with the Qunari? That's like the biggest reason I go for it.

 

Possibly - promoting collaboration could definitely have the potential to improve relations. Considering that Gaspard (who in TME seems hell bent on reclaiming Ferelden) could be persuaded to abandon his idea of attacking Ferelden in DA:I, it's certainly possible that the Qunari might be swayed in future games. Perhaps in imports in which...

 

-Sten was recruited and had his sword returned

-The Arishok was made a worthy rival

-The Inquisitor saved the Qunari Dreadnought

 

...an option will be permitted in DA4 to forge a peace between southern Thedas and the Qunari (the ultimate Basalit-an ending), like how in ME3 we could alter the Genophage and Geth endings based on our past decisions.

[Eliastion]

It's hard to believe, really. Qun is even more expansionist and uncompromising than Chantry... lasting peace seems utterly impossible. They believe non-qunari literally hurt the world by existing (while Chantry "only" believes it must convert all the world to have the Maker come back and create paradise).

[LobselVith8]

If you do choose a Qunari alliance, do you think it will affect future DAI DLC? Or will just be another thing to add to the keep?

 

I suppose it depends on whether or not the Qunari are explored, and what ramifications might ensue because of the alliance once the crisis with the Breach has been resolved. If it's successful, it's said the alliance has caused the Qunari to reconsider their stance on alliances with outsiders, and the entire Inquisition is being considered to be basalit-an; Tallis or Iron Bull are being considered to be the new Arquin. Perhaps this might be addressed in DLC, or it might not.

 

If there's a particular story that the developers want to tell, it's possible that the alliance might be rectonned either way, similar to the Magi Boon and the Dalish Boon being handwaved.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You ask that if choice will matter in dragon age?

 

 

You could ask as well if templars will be in next assassin's creed.

[Patchwork]

Probably not as it's an optional alliance, at best it'll get the OGB treatment. 

[Rekkampum]

I think it will as far as DLC is concerned and minor continuity, but I doubt it will have a significant impact due to it being determinant. I suspect Word of God will find a way to tie up the Inquisition somehow in future content, since it being active completely changes the political climate of Thedas, although that can pose some interesting new conflicts and plot twists if it manages to last and becomes a more permanent entity.

[Gervaise]

The Alliance will not affect the Qun philosophy overall, which is ultimately they must take over the world.   Sten, Fenris and Iron Bull have all attested to this.    They are biding their time until the feel the moment is right to act.     A lot may depend on what happens in the north in the future.    If Tevinter were de-stablilised, then the Qun might well choose that moment to start an attack, particularly since Tevinter never signed the Accord so attacking them on the mainland would technically not infringe on it.   Presumably the Qun might well back an Inquisition initiative against the Tevinter or expect the Inquisition to back them if they made the first move.    Those people who think that an alliance with the Qun is a good thing might well end up with egg on their face.

[Teshayel]

I doubt it will have a significant impact on the overall story. You might have some dialogue references, or varying war table missions, though. 

[The Baconer]

Presumably the Qun might well back an Inquisition initiative against the Tevinter or expect the Inquisition to back them if they made the first move. 

 

As bad as they are, I don't think the Qunari have the gall to do something like that.

[Eliastion]

As bad as they are, I don't think the Qunari have the gall to do something like that.

And why not? They are at war with Tevinter and the alliance was primarily directed against Tevinter faction (one that wasn't officially supported but I don't think anyone has any doubts what would happen if Venatori started winning? And then there is the fact that Inquisition is a semi-religeous organisation connected to Andrastian Chantry (the Chantry of the South) which isn't exactly on best terms with Imperial Chantry.

Who would the alliance be against (after Cory's death) if not against Tevinter? Qunari could probably agree to splitting Tevinter in half for the time being - South for Inquisition or whoever it chooses to give it to, North for Qunari so that they can establish stronger presence on the continent. 

[The Baconer]

And why not? They are at war with Tevinter and the alliance was primarily directed against Tevinter faction (one that wasn't officially supported but I don't think anyone has any doubts what would happen if Venatori started winning? And then there is the fact that Inquisition is a semi-religeous organisation connected to Andrastian Chantry (the Chantry of the South) which isn't exactly on best terms with Imperial Chantry.

Who would the alliance be against (after Cory's death) if not against Tevinter? Qunari could probably agree to splitting Tevinter in half for the time being - South for Inquisition or whoever it chooses to give it to, North for Qunari so that they can establish stronger presence on the continent. 

 

For the south, eliminating Tevinter isn't worth giving the Qunari a foothold. Both Chantries united to fight them before, Thedas knows what they're really about. The Qunari know that Thedas knows what they're really about.

[Eliastion]

For the south, eliminating Tevinter isn't worth giving the Qunari a foothold. Both Chantries united to fight them before, Thedas knows what they're really about. The Qunari know that Thedas knows what they're really about.

Qunari grasp on the way Thedas works is pretty limited so I wouldn't be so sure about "they know that South knows". And I'm not even so sure about South knows, ignoring obvious outside threats seems to be a common habit so far

Either way, the alliance can either lead to picking Tevinter apart (which, I agree, would be short-sighted on Inquisition's side, even if it would just allow this rather than actively participate) or is already a worthless piece of paper after Cory's death, with neither side having anything to offer one another anymore.

[The Baconer]

Qunari grasp on the way Thedas works is pretty limited so I wouldn't be so sure about "they know that South knows".

 

They have a lot of converts and agents that do.

 

 

And I'm not even so sure about South knows, ignoring obvious outside threats seems to be a common habit so far

 

Oh, they do.

 

 

Either way, the alliance can either lead to picking Tevinter apart (which, I agree, would be short-sighted on Inquisition's side, even if it would just allow this rather than actively participate) or is already a worthless piece of paper after Cory's death, with neither side having anything to offer one another anymore.

 

The Inquisition can't wage war on Tevinter, even with the Qunari's help.

[Rekkampum]

They have a lot of converts and agents that do.

 

 

 

Oh, they do.

 

 

 

The Inquisition can't wage war on Tevinter, even with the Qunari's help.

 

The Qunari are the most technologically advanced. I'm sure if the Inquisition exercised its alliances they could give Tevinter a good run for its money. Especially with the knowledge of the Well of Sorrows on their side.

[The Baconer]

The Qunari are the most technologically advanced. I'm sure if the Inquisition exercised its alliances they could give Tevinter a good run for its money. Especially with the knowledge of the Well of Sorrows on their side.

 

It requires too many assumptions and variables to work. The Qunari alliance might not even exist. The Well's knowledge could lie with Morrigan, who leaves the Inquisition at the end of the game. The number of forces at the Inquisition's command fluctuates wildly between the endings. They're not going to war with Tevinter.

[Xilizhra]

Possibly - promoting collaboration could definitely have the potential to improve relations. Considering that Gaspard (who in TME seems hell bent on reclaiming Ferelden) could be persuaded to abandon his idea of attacking Ferelden in DA:I, it's certainly possible that the Qunari might be swayed in future games. Perhaps in imports in which...

 

-Sten was recruited and had his sword returned

-The Arishok was made a worthy rival

-The Inquisitor saved the Qunari Dreadnought

 

...an option will be permitted in DA4 to forge a peace between southern Thedas and the Qunari (the ultimate Basalit-an ending), like how in ME3 we could alter the Genophage and Geth endings based on our past decisions.

That's... distressingly plausible, actually. And definitely worth considering, if all three PCs were considered basalit-an...

[Rekkampum]

It requires too many assumptions and variables to work. The Qunari alliance might not even exist. The Well's knowledge could lie with Morrigan, who leaves the Inquisition at the end of the game. The number of forces at the Inquisition's command fluctuates wildly between the endings. They're not going to war with Tevinter.

 

I'm obviously approaching this debate from the position that the alliance has been made - as I'm sure everyone else is - and that the other things are well-within the grasp of the Inquisition; that means that the Inquisitor, in the argument I'm positing, has the power of the Well, not Morrigan, and a wealth of forces from the unions made. In fact, a union with the Templars gives them an extraordinary advantage against Tevinter mages. That doesn't even include the Seekers.

 

I wouldn't expect them to go to war with Tevinter, but bearing those things in mind, including the fact that they now rival countries, it's clear that they'd be formidable; Tevinter themselves considered an alliance with them.

[The Baconer]

I'm obviously approaching this debate from the position that the alliance has been made - as I'm sure everyone else is - and that the other things are well-within the grasp of the Inquisition; that means that the Inquisitor, in the argument I'm positing, has the power of the Well, not Morrigan, and a wealth of forces from the unions made. In fact, a union with the Templars gives them an extraordinary advantage against Tevinter mages. That doesn't even include the Seekers.

 

I wouldn't expect them to go to war with Tevinter, but bearing those things in mind, including the fact that they now rival countries, it's clear that they'd be formidable; Tevinter themselves considered an alliance with them.

 

And now we're counting on multiple, heavily Andrastian elements on agreeing to carve up Tevinter with an entity that openly plans to dismantle the religion (and the nations that follow it) in its entirety. I wouldn't count on a "wealth of forces" being there to back you up, at least beyond the Qunari.