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[turuzzusapatuttu]

Wait. I've seen this scene before:

 

[TheOgre]

What?

[SmilesJA]

How do you "update" armor? Armor's pretty ****** expensive, incase you didn't know. You can complain about Morrigan all you want, I mean for some reason she has her own style and upbringing that she wants to remember for some reason, but complaining about Hawke wearing the same armor is kind of nonsensical. 

 

Besides that, Varric wears the exact same clothing as well. Haven't seen a thread for that yet. Alistair's worn the exact same armor he's had since becoming king, at least in the comics, etc. 

 

Yeah I still need to make a thread complaining about Varric's "armor". What was Bioware thinking exposing all that chest hair!

[SmilesJA]

 

It's a bit like that, innit?

 

I find it amusing how the BSN has a trillion different topics/threads... but really, there's only about five.

 

And 4 of them is romance related! 

[o Ventus]

Would you like your mum with her boobs hanging out when you're with her? OMG that poor child must be so embarrassed.

Tbh, Kieran strikes me as a bit of a simpleton.

 

I don't think he knows or cares.

[o Ventus]

 

As I see it, if an iconic look raises questions like "Why the heck is she wearing the same thing after 10 years", then it may not been the best idea to keep that look from the old game. Besides raising plausibility issues, an argument can be made that it is appropriate to let character development be reflected in characters' outfits.

 

 

One would think that not aging a day despite an 11-year gap between appearances would be a bit less plausible than wearing old clothes. This goes for Leliana too. Leliana actually looks a touch younger in DAI.

[o Ventus]

No offense but you should ask for your money back because characters are not designed base on their clothing. It has been like over 7+ years since Origins and Morrigan still wears the same clothing.

 

"Characters are not designed based on their clothing."

 

We're not even a week into March and this is a solid contender for my annual Top Ten Dumbest Quotes list.

[ZipZap2000]

This wouldn't be one of those over the top internet statements you'd be too embarrassed to bring up in real life would it? 

 

[o Ventus]

 

 

I'm actually pretty sure this is a joke.

[ZipZap2000]

I'm actually pretty sure this is a joke.

 

Thank you captain obvious. 

[o Ventus]

Thank you captain obvious. 

Or, since you want to be an a**hole about it, I guess you haven't heard of Poe's Law.

[Tex]

Tbh, Kieran strikes me as a bit of a simpleton.

I don't think he knows or cares.

That's very true not trying to be an ass but he seemed how to put this lightly a bit "special" atleast from the scenes I watched on youtube and yes I know the old God soul was probably to blame but still yikes. Also let's not forget in some peoples games he doesn't even exist. So they would have had to make one modest outfit if she had the kid and we know they wouldn't do that or they would have done so and then there's the fact that it's not the exact same one she had in origans it may only be slightly different but it is different none the less.

P.s it made no sense that it was only able to be a male child given her mother history of only ever having daughters "sigh" I mean wouldn't genetics play a part? oh well I'm just glad the keep let me change my choices.

[seraphymon]

Bioware said Iconic look.. but after so many years..it really just says BIoware was lazy..  Cant she have another iconic look with new  clothes?

[o Ventus]

Bioware said Iconic look.. but after so many years..it really just says BIoware was lazy..  Cant she have another iconic look with new  clothes?

 

And this is why I could never be a community manager or a PR person.

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

And this is why I could never be a community manager or a PR person.

No, you don't really strike me as a people person.

You can toss the word "iconic" out all day long, but if you think Morrigan's brand would be irreparably damaged by having her appear in something other than her DAO outfit, then I have two words for you: "Iron Man"

In his fifty-two years of existence, Tony Stark has sported more suits of armor than I've owned pairs of underwear...

http://static.comicv...ironman_001.jpg

Curiously, the perpetual redesigning of Iron Man's look across the years was no obstacle preventing him from becoming a highly successful character.

So, yes. I think Morrigan can pull off another outfit or two without having to worry about her stock collapsing. If she can't, then what does that say about the character?

[o Ventus]

You can toss the word "iconic" out all day long, but if you think Morrigan's brand would be irreparably damaged by having her appear in something other than her DAO outfit, then I have two words for you: "Iron Man"
 

 

It's a good thing I never actually said this then.

 

But please, continue to presume. If this is the message you've gathered from my posts, then I suggest you go and get a refund from wherever you learned to read, because they didn't do a good enough job. Not once did I say anything to the effect of "Morrigan can wear her exact clothes from DAO, and only her DAO clothing with no flexibility in the design".

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

Not once did I say anything to the effect of "Morrigan can wear her exact clothes from DAO, and only her DAO clothing with no flexibility in the design".

No?

That doesn't really work.

Neither does dressing her up in different clothes during each of her appearances.

[Ash Wind]

No?

 

lol some seem to be taking this all too seriously. I get the idea that an Iconic look can represent a character amongst multiple stories and such. While I am not against such grammatical incarnations...

 

It would have been nice to see Morrigan's clothing choices evolve along with her character. As opposed to the rebellious teenager she is in DAO, in DAI she is, either A) alone, (maybe bitterly so) though a decade older; B.) possibly a doting mom and C.) possibly involved in a long-term relationship with the Warden.

[o Ventus]

No?

 

Yeah, no. Or, no, no. Whatever. 

 

My post in no way means that Morrigan can't wear clothes other than her DAO outfit. Whatever region of your ass you pulled that from, you might want to put it back.

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

My post in no way means that Morrigan can't wear clothes other than her DAO outfit.

Okay, then enlighten me. What did it mean?

I'd really like to hear you explain how your post which basically suggests Morrigan shouldn't wear other outfits "in no way means" she shouldn't wear other outfits.

[o Ventus]

Okay, then enlighten me. What did it mean?

Okay. First let's look at the post I was responding to, since you just seemed to ignore that. Nobody needs context anyway.

 

 

Morrigan is an icon to DA players not the characters who surround her. Inevitably someone would say, "Um, Morrigan don't you have other clothes?"

That doesn't really work.

 

Here, not only did you put words in my mouth, but you totally invented a point that nobody actually made, but I'll let that slide. 

 

@ the bold: I said that Morrigan wearing different clothes in all of her appearances wouldn't work. It should be pretty obvious why. It not only isn't necessary, but it just adds extra work for the artists, modelers, and animators when they can just go with a look that is not only unique to Morrigan, but is also thematically tied to her and fits her personality.

 

@ the italicized: You may as well be asking why no other NPCs ever change their clothes, or why characters in cartoons never change clothes. (excluding the Winter Palace segment) Cullen is never seen without his giant collared coat, Leliana is never seen without her Inquisition hood, and Josephine is never seen without her ruffled sleeves. Varric is never seen without his half-buttoned shirt, Solas is never seen without his weird necklace, Cassandra is never seen without her Seeker gear, and Bull is never seen without his eye patch.

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

Here, not only did you put words in my mouth, but you totally invented a point that nobody actually made, but I'll let that slide.

I hope so since I didn't actually put those words in your mouth. I'm the one who said "That doesn't really work." It's my name over that quote.

@ the bold: I said that Morrigan wearing different clothes in all of her appearances wouldn't work. It should be pretty obvious why. It not only isn't necessary, but it just adds extra work for the artists, modelers, and animators when they can just go with a look that is not only unique to Morrigan, but is also thematically tied to her and fits her personality.

I understand character thematics and character identification and all of that. Once again, I'm merely arguing that there has to be more than one possible design that appropriately suits her. Getting creative for the sake of variety and plausibility isn't worth the effort?

I'll also point out that saying "Morrigan shouldn't wear the same thing all the time" is not the same thing as saying "Morrigan should wear a different outfit in every appearance." The latter precludes her from ever going back to her original outfit. Well, I'm not arguing that she shouldn't ever go back to it. I'm arguing her wardrobe closet ought to be bigger. One outfit is dull, implausible over a ten year stretch (she's not Homer Simpson) not to mention it raises some uncomfortable questions concerning her hygiene.

@ the italicized: You may as well be asking why no other NPCs ever change their clothes, or why characters in cartoons never change clothes. (excluding the Winter Palace segment) Cullen is never seen without his giant collared coat, Leliana is never seen without her Inquisition hood, and Josephine is never seen without her ruffled sleeves. Varric is never seen without his half-buttoned shirt, Solas is never seen without his weird necklace, Cassandra is never seen without her Seeker gear, and Bull is never seen without his eye patch.

You're really broad-brushing my argument now. I have no expectation that characters within a game change their outfits multiple times within the same game. We're talking about a character wearing the same outfit that they wore ten years earlier. This is emphatically not the same as wondering why Cullen doesn't throw on a different shirt from one day to the next.

[tmp7704]

@ the italicized: You may as well be asking why no other NPCs ever change their clothes, or why characters in cartoons never change clothes.

Both of these statements are false. Cullen and Leliana --people you bring up yourself-- would be obvious examples of NPC who appear in different outfit in each installment of DA series. As for cartoons, look for shows outside of the cheapest US productions and you will find many productions with characters sporting wardrobes bigger than single outfit.