I mean if I had a Black Warden having a pale child with no features of mine seems kind of odd doesn't it? Kind of immersion breaking.
Shouldn't Kieran be customizable?
#1
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:29
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#4
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:34
Also, I've seen more than one child with parents of different races who only looks like one or the other. You'd never be able to tell they were mixed if you didn't know their parents.
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#5
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:34
I mean if I had a Black Warden having a pale child with no features of mine seems kind of odd doesn't it? Kind of immersion breaking.
Those elven god genes are strong, apparently...
#6
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:34
No, I don't see what's unusual about it.
#7
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:34
He looks like his mom, nothing unnatural about it, it happens.
Yeah but Hawke's family changed with Hawke...shouldn't it be the same with Kieran. I just think its a curious move by Bioware.
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#8
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:43
Yeah but Hawke's family changed with Hawke...shouldn't it be the same with Kieran. I just think its a curious move by Bioware.
Not that curious since we don't get to customize the Hero of Fereldan at all in Inquisition, and the Keep doesn't recognize a custom Hero of Fereldan.
#9
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:44
He looks like his mom, nothing unnatural about it, it happens.
Except that he doesn't really?
Kieran has brown hair and green eyes.
Morrigan, Yavana and Flemeth meanwhile all are shown to have yellow eyes and (formerly) black hair, so it seems that these are common traits on his maternal side, so it would have made sense for him to have had them as well?
Having him have similar hair and eye colouration to his mother would have eliminated the problem of the Warden's varying appearance and race, since it'd be clear that he took more after his mother's side than his father? Instead, aside from sharing similar facial features, those other traits have to have come from his father?
Unless they reveal that Morrigan is able to glamour him to throw people off the scent of him being her son, his hair and eye colour that they gave him seem really off-base? It's not really important, sure, but it does nag at me a little?
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#10
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:44
Witch genes are incredibly dominant.
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#11
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 10:49
Except that he doesn't really?
Kieran has brown hair and green eyes.
Morrigan, Yavana and Flemeth meanwhile all are shown to have yellow eyes and (formerly) black hair, so it seems that these are common traits on his maternal side, so it would have made sense for him to have had them as well?
Having him have similar hair and eye colouration to his mother would have eliminated the problem of the Warden's varying appearance and race, since it'd be clear that he took more after his mother's side than his father? Instead, aside from sharing similar facial features, those other traits have to have come from his father?
Unless they reveal that Morrigan is able to glamour him to throw people off the scent of him being her son, his hair and eye colour, while not really important, still seem kinda off-base to me?
His face structure and lips are very close to Morrigan's. Eyes color really means nothing, I could have been my father's female twin in all but eyes color.
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#13
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 11:17
His face structure and lips are very close to Morrigan's. Eyes color really means nothing, I could have been my father's female twin in all but eyes color.
Still, there's a common eye colour and hair colour for all Morrigan's family, so why didn't they have him follow that pattern?
#14
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 11:22
Still, there's a common eye colour and hair colour for all Morrigan's family, so why didn't they have him follow that pattern?
Omission? So we can wear our tinfoil hat and have something to talk about? Who knows.
(btw I don't have my mother's eyes either, so someone has a phenotype)
#15
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 11:27
DA doesn't follow the usual genetic rules. Elf-blooded children look human, no matter what. Alistair's father has blue eyes and his mother has kinda grey-greenish, yet his are amber brown (brown eyes/ brown/black hair are dominant in real-world genetics so he must have had a brown-eyed parent if they followed RW Gencodes).
I wouldn't worry about it. Magick.
I'm more concerned that he seems to be the only child left in Thedas. Like, anywhere.
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#16
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 11:44
I always pictured the kid as having Morrigan's black hair and yellow eye color, and yet Kieran ended up having brown hair. In my case it works out since my Cousland has brown hair. It does struck me as abit odd that they simply didn't make him resemble his mother more than his father, but alas, I'm not too bothered about it.
#17
Posté 01 mars 2015 - 11:53
I wish the OGB was a girl with raven hair and alabaster skin.
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#18
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:06
The HoF turned out to be sterile, so she had to pay a visit to Alistair afterwards.
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#19
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:08
I'm more concerned that he seems to be the only child left in Thedas. Like, anywhere.
Maybe he's pulling an Adam from Good Omens and is unwittingly using his OGB powers to manipulate reality around him?
Perhaps the other children made fun of him once, so he accidentally made it so that now there are no other children? And none of the adults realised, because as far as they are concerned, nothing at all is out of the ordinary?
Kinda like that episode of Star Trek TNG, where Crusher is the only one to notice everyone is slowly disappearing, until it's only her and Picard left? Who then is completely incredulous when she asks about the rest of the crew, because Picard doesn't see anything weird about how a ship built to fit over a thousand people should need a crew, when it has just a Captain and a Doctor?
Future DLC should either add children in again, or wink at this weirdness by having a wild-eyed individual running around frantically yelling to everyone that all the children have gone missing, but no-one pays them any attention?
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#20
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:09
(btw I don't have my mother's eyes either, so someone has a phenotype)
Everyone has a phenotype.
#21
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:10
Everyone has a phenotype.
I mean that thing where someone has genetically a different eyes color than what it is visually.
#22
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:23
I mean that thing where someone has genetically a different eyes color than what it is visually.
That's not what a phenotype is.
Phenotype is the expression of genotype.
Take eyes for example, and lets keep it simple:
2 coding genes: b for blue (recessive) and B for brown (dominant). Phenotypes are blue and brown.
Genotype: b b --> Phenotype: blue
Genotype: b B --> Phenotype: brown
Genotype: B b --> Phenotype: brown
Genotype: B B --> Phenotype: brown
#23
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:25
That's not what a phenotype is.
Phenotype is the expression of genotype.
Take eyes for example, and lets keep it simple:
2 coding genes: b for blue (recessive) and B for brown (dominant). Phenotypes are blue and brown.
Genotype: b b --> Phenotype: blue
Genotype: b B --> Phenotype: brown
Genotype: B b --> Phenotype: brown
Genotype: B B --> Phenotype: brown
English! it fails me sometimes. (I'm actually quite happy people understand me to the extend they do)
#24
Posté 02 mars 2015 - 12:30
You see it as something independant of genetics, but it's completely dependant on genetics. It's just the expression of. You can have genes that aren't expressed, but that doesn't make something a phenotype. There's always a phenotype.





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