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Shouldn't Kieran be customizable?


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#76
BraveVesperia

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I generally assume that since Morrigan is a shapeshifter (and her mother too), that has something to do with appearance. Like their yellow eyes, Kieran might develop those when he's older for all we know.

Or the Old God soul influenced Kieran's appearance.



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Not to break your character but black colored people are not supposed to be that common in Thedas (it is based on the middle ages in Europe). Let alone a black noble human. With Vivienne in mind, I believe she is black for political correctness. Also lore-wise I don't think Dwarf-Human breeding is possible. The skin color goes for elves as well. Other features you can blame Morrigan dominance for.

 

 

Bro its a game.  Not real life.  Europe didn't have Qunari or Elves around either, or a tolerance for homosexuality for that matter.  There are black nobles.  You go too far with the comparisons.  Additionally people from Rivain are black and really dark tan.


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The one upside I can see from a customizable Kieran is the ability to make him look like a horrid troll.


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I played as a black warden in origins so I did feel kind of out of place. Pop cousland was white my brother was white, and now my son kieran is white. I don't have a problem with that, but eventually one begins to wonder...

I always RP'ed with the story that momma cousland cheated on pop cousland with someone else. That's why I'm black, but my real father has recessive genes and they got passed on to me. That's why my son is white because morrigan has and will always have the dominant genes.
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I mean if I had a Black Warden.


If you did I appluad you because I tried to make one at first but nearly threw up in my mouth as a result, looked even worse than Black Hawke in DA2. Thankfully Inquisition has set things right

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DA doesn't follow the usual genetic rules. Elf-blooded children look human, no matter what. Alistair's father has blue eyes and his mother has kinda grey-greenish, yet his are amber brown (brown eyes/ brown/black hair are dominant in real-world genetics so he must have had a brown-eyed parent if they followed RW Gencodes).

In real life though it is possible though for 2 blue-eyed parents to have brown-eyed kid, so Alistair's genetics are OK actually.



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Weirder **** has happened.



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This is why Inquisition broke the lore of its previous games and this type of fantasy genre. The developers wanted to please everyone so they went against the lore to do that.

 

 

Dragons, elves, dwarfs, demons, magic... you can roll with that. But black people make you stop short, huh.


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Jeez. Kieran is simply difficult to customize.

 

He could a human or elf-blooded or half-human,half-dwarf. His father could be of any skin color and have hair of any hair color.

 

That means customizing him requires height adjustment, skin color adjustment and hair color adjustment.

 

We do not even have height adjustment for our own characters. 



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DA doesn't follow the usual genetic rules. Elf-blooded children look human, no matter what. Alistair's father has blue eyes and his mother has kinda grey-greenish, yet his are amber brown (brown eyes/ brown/black hair are dominant in real-world genetics so he must have had a brown-eyed parent if they followed RW Gencodes).

 

Originally, Alistair did have a brown-eyed parent.

 

Fiona only has light coloured, grey-green eyes as of DA:I; she is repeatedly described in The Calling as having 'brown' and 'dark' eyes. /pedantry and no detail is too insignificant to be retconned


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Yes he should, but EAWare don't care



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Yeah but Hawke's family changed with Hawke...shouldn't it be the same with Kieran.  I just think its a curious move by Bioware.

But Hawke probably looks like his father, Malcom



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Honestly, they'd have to come up with 50 different Kieran models, and people would still have gripes about it.

 

I think just having one Kieran for everyone makes a lot more sense and a lot less headache.


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His face structure and lips are very close to Morrigan's. Eyes color really means nothing, I could have been my father's female twin in all but eyes color.

 

Actually, his face structure looks like my warden's ha

jawline and all



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Originally, Alistair did have a brown-eyed parent.

 

Fiona only has light coloured, grey-green eyes as of DA:I; she is repeatedly described in The Calling as having 'brown' and 'dark' eyes. /pedantry and no detail is too insignificant to be retconned

That's why there are modders hard at work to rectify Bioware's crappy team's mistakes since this game and the past dragon Age games suffers from the "clone syndrome" and most of the NPC don't seem to match the description that they were written for because the devs can't do a good job at all. Personally for me, Morrigan's kid should have the same eye color as his mother and Grandmother. I think that's what will make him different then the rest of those common kids for this game.



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There has always been an option for darker skin tones, it's just that earlier on they didn't turn out very well. As the games have progressively gotten better graphically the nuance of colour has improved as well.

As for 'but mah Warden looks so different', please bear in mind that genetics and what gets passed down is far, far more complicated than basic biology classes would have you believe. I'm one of four children from a mixed race marriage, and none of us have the same eye/hair/skin tone combination, although we look alike in terms of facial features. And then from there, my brother (who has a natural tan, dark brown hair, and hazel eyes) has a daughter who has his basic colouring, and a son that looks like the whitest child this side of albinoism. 



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Originally, Alistair did have a brown-eyed parent.

 

Fiona only has light coloured, grey-green eyes as of DA:I; she is repeatedly described in The Calling as having 'brown' and 'dark' eyes. /pedantry and no detail is too insignificant to be retconned

 

Yeah... I wasn't going to mention that because internal inconsistencies and Bioware retconning sometimes... well, I have more important things to get angry about these days. *grin*. I still consider it fortunate that Cullen didn't stay blue-eyed... ;)



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If you did I appluad you because I tried to make one at first but nearly threw up in my mouth as a result, looked even worse than Black Hawke in DA2. Thankfully Inquisition has set things right

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Yes in DAO only with mods i was able to create  black warden that has satisfied me enough 

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in DAI was more easy.



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Jeez. Kieran is simply difficult to customize.

 

He could a human or elf-blooded or half-human,half-dwarf. His father could be of any skin color and have hair of any hair color.

 

That means customizing him requires height adjustment, skin color adjustment and hair color adjustment.

 

We do not even have height adjustment for our own characters. 

 

And really, we do not need another character creator screen prompt popping up to introduce another NPC, especially one that has an even smaller role in the main story. Making the kid just look related to Morrigan is more than enough.

 

This is part of the reason why I don't want past customizable protagonists to show up too often. The lack of a face code to import makes repeat plays kind of tiresome, because I refuse to use defaults.



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Honestly, they'd have to come up with 50 different Kieran models, and people would still have gripes about it.

 

I think just having one Kieran for everyone makes a lot more sense and a lot less headache.

Seriously, get over it...

 

Though that's easy for me to say, as a male white Coulsland who romanced Morrigan. Might feel different if he was a black dwarf child!



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The one upside I can see from a customizable Kieran is the ability to make him look like a horrid troll.

 

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Husband: Baby we have a son! You are pregnant!

 

Wife: Yes isnt this wonderful?!

 

Husband: Lets customize him!

 

Wife: Okay, okay! bring the knife!

 

Huband: (cries out of joy)

 

I created it now... 



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He looks like his mom, nothing unnatural about it, it happens.

 

But he doesn't look like Morrigan, haha. Okay, facial features and skin colour yeah, but then he has brown hair and brown eyes,

 

I think they should have either made him the male version of Morrigan (which I would have approved of by the way, her superior diety DNA wins out haha) with her black hair and yellow eyes, or made him customizable.

 

As it is, it annoyed me so much that I actually re-did DAO and changed my Wardens hair colour to brown with brown eyes. Yeah, it seems a little extreme and maybe an over reaction, but it did annoy me immensley that this kid had a mother with black hair and yellow eyes and a papa with ginger hair and blue eyes and came out with neither.

 

And I do understand that genetics are random (my family is a prime example, I have brown hair and brown eyes, a sister with very blonde hair and blue eyes and another sister with auburn hair and green eyes, all from the same mum/dad), but this isn't real life. You can't blame people for wanting to see the connection to their Wardens, or at least a connection to Morrigan. For some people, he has neither and it's immersion breaking.

 

I'd still love for him to be customizable in a DLC or something though, just saying.



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Well seems that Milkman dropped by and said to Morrigan hi  :whistle:

 

And, in return, she said: "Well, well. What have we here?".


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