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[Linkenski]

...and assuming the overall idea of the plot is the same, what would've been different? IMO Joining or abandoning Cerberus would've been an option halfway through the game that effectively changed the entire critical path of the story.

[Taki17]

And probably we wouldn't have been limited to sleeping with only one of our party members.

[AlanC9]

A huge jump in sysreqs? The Wtcher series pushes the tech edge from installment to installment in a way that ME didn't.

[10K]

If the Witcher team developed the ME series we'd have a story that actually made sense. Instead we have ME that set the stage, ME2 that wanted to incorporate something new within the mix, and ME3 that disregards everything ME2 did and tries to pick up where ME left off but fails miserably.

[KotorEffect3]

More witcher worship it seems.  I'll take Shepard over Geralt anyday.

[Ferretinabun]

God, me too, Kotor. Never played a more overrated game than Witcher 2. Clumsy, awkward and a thoroughly miserable setting. At least Mass Effect is fun.

[Hinjo]

As much as I love The Witcher, Sapkowski's books and CDPR more then anything that was ever created by Bioware, Mass Effect should remains Mass Effect.

For me, Mass Effect (along with Dragon Age) is something like action film I watch regurarly three or four times per year. It's fun, challenging, has a lot of explosions in it. And of course, there are some interesting dialogues, quotes and characters. It has similar qualities as The Witcher.

 

The main difference between ME and TW is this: Society.

In TW, we can trust only ourselves because society is full of fanatics, bastards, hypocrites and wicked souls. At the end, you can consider only few people as friends (although it's much easier if you read book).

ME has a lot of different races and cultures... and they are working together. They can trust each other. That's too optimistic for CDPR - they would probably want to make much darker game. And that would destroy atmosphere original ME had (at least for me).

 

Simply, asking what would ME would like if it was created by CDPR would be same as asking how would Bioware's Witcher look. Both would have potential for being good games, but originals would be better (at least for me).

[ImaginaryMatter]

The real question is what would happen if Obsidian made a Mass Effect game?

[KotorEffect3]

As much as I love The Witcher, Sapkowski's books and CDPR more then anything that was ever created by Bioware, Mass Effect should remains Mass Effect.

For me, Mass Effect (along with Dragon Age) is something like action film I watch regurarly three or four times per year. It's fun, challenging, has a lot of explosions in it. And of course, there are some interesting dialogues, quotes and characters. It has similar qualities as The Witcher.

 

The main difference between ME and TW is this: Society.

In TW, we can trust only ourselves because society is full of fanatics, bastards, hypocrites and wicked souls. At the end, you can consider only few people as friends (although it's much easier if you read book).

ME has a lot of different races and cultures... and they are working together. They can trust each other. That's too optimistic for CDPR - they would probably want to make much darker game. And that would destroy atmosphere original ME had (at least for me).

 

Simply, asking what would ME would like if it was created by CDPR would be same as asking how would Bioware's Witcher look. Both would have potential for being good games, but originals would be better (at least for me).

 

 

Um quarians and geth?   Krogan and Salarians/Turians?   Humans and Batarians?   How about Cerberus?  Sorry but I don't see how ME is all sunshine and bunnies and everyone getting along.  ME has genocide, slavery, racism, terrorism, etc...  Maybe you are confusing ME with Star Trek or something. 

[Seyd71]

Hmm, I think they'd  screw it up because I hate the Witcher. I always saw Witcher fans bashing DA in the comments on Youtube, so when the Witcher 2 was free on Xbox 360 I tried it and learned it was horrible.

 

The main character is this bland annoying douche with a terrible voice and an excessive amount of scars who goes around screwing women. Honestly, the series is terrible, and at least Bioware actually developed their own series. The Witcher was based on a book and legends, so they had a much easier time. in addition, you have a lot less choices in The Witcher and usually they don't even matter that much.

[Diesel]

Well I just finished Witcher 2 (finally after starting a year ago). No ME game ever took me that long to move through so I have to give ME characters and story the edge here.

 

I don't much enjoy the medieval fantasy genre in general nor do I care for a lot of fictitious places and lore - all this Witcher 2 has in spades. And yet I'm going to defend Witcher 2 here because it took a genre and format I wasn't predisposed to liking and carried me through. How? The journal writing in Witcher 2 is the best I've ever seen. Reading the journal in ME is a bland affair. If I wasn't sure what was the reasoning behind a quest in ME reading the journal wasn't likely to shed any light. Reading the Witcher 2 journal (actually a diary by one of Geralt's friends) is like reading good prose vs. the utilitarian activity log style that most bioware games sport. I found I could come back to Witcher 2 after spending 6 months away and easily remember where I was and what I needed to do next.

 

It might not be that CDPR would have written a better story, but based on Witcher 2 it certainly would have been presented well. It was very coherent for a conspiratorial plot. I knew why things were happening. There was cinematic flair (not to say ME didn't). No feeling of grinding or pointless filler tasks anywhere remotely like - ugh - planet scanning.

 

I've never read the novels. The beginning 2 chapters of W2 don't distinguish Geralt, but the next two sees him grow more interesting such that after 1 game (I never played the first Witcher) I feel I learned more about him than any single game of ME showed me of Shepard. Geralt's supporting cast is entertaining, but since it's mainly a solo quest game the team chemistry isn't the same as in ME (which is legendary). What I've always loved about many of the Bioware games is that you get that team experience. In this case I think a CDPR game where Shepard is mainly a soloist would be worse (for me).

 

Finally, out of game I appreciate that CDPR is committed to PC gaming and their attitude re: DLC.

 

I'm a fan of both universes.

[Tjoma]

Well I think if CDProjekt Red made Mass Effect 2 in "The Witcher" - Style :

 

Shepard would've become a mercenary, f*ck his way through the milky way, gather enough knowledge to know the vitals of the Reapers, than slaughter his way up to the harbinger just to kill him with his bare hands to show him how badass he is.

 

That would be pretty awesome.

[Dreadstruck]

Oh look, rabid Witcher haters. Is it 2012 again.. or something?

 

I never quite understood why you have to belittle either of those games to make a point. To me it sounds childish and unwarranted. They both have a different approach to their gameplay and storytelling. Someone likes their custom Shepard and someone prefers the more focused narrative of Geralt.

 

Though I have to give a slight edge to CD Projekt RED because of the reasons already said above by Diesel and because I feel more involved in the proto-slavic style of the Witcher series.

[Ambivalent]

It'd be advertised with nudity which cheapens a game i think. 

 

That's the main reason i never played Witcher. Tried first a bit but an adolescent's wet dreams isn't my idea of fun. I, have better alternatives. 

 

Hope they won't be that over the top in Cyberpunk 2077 but i won't hold my breath.

 

PS: At reddit there is an official advert which strenghtens my point, direct copy pasta: "The most anticipated game of 2015 that contains lovemaking on a unicorn—The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt—is out now. Do what you will." 

 

I think they'll add cam girls in 4th game, insta buy for some. I can't respect these guys, they're too low imo.

 

Source : https://www.reddit.c..._that_contains/

[TheViper8234]

it would be crap,it would probably have more monotone Shepard,sh*tty y voice acting for everyone,you wont even give f*ck about squad members and you'll get to f*ck everybody that smiles at you like sex-maniac Geralt does,oh so badass..

[TheViper8234]

Also I get Dragon Age but why the f*ck Witcher is mentioned EVEN in Mass Effect threads ? give me a break

[KotorEffect3]

Also I get Dragon Age but why the f*ck Witcher is mentioned EVEN in Mass Effect threads ? give me a break

Some of these witcher fanboys will attack any franchise that isn't made by CDPR especially if it is a bioware franchise.  Someone should let these witcher fanboys know that not every damn franchise needs to be like the witcher nor should they be.  These witcher fanboys really need to learn to open their mind.

[Dreadstruck]

Some of these witcher fanboys will attack any franchise that isn't made by CDPR especially if it is a bioware franchise.  Someone should let these witcher fanboys know that not every damn franchise needs to be like the witcher nor should they be.  These witcher fanboys really need to learn to open their mind.

 
I agree, this thread should be probably posted in Off-topic since it has nothing to do with Mass Effect itself (much less the Story and Characters section), apart from the "what-if". Hell, I could say it even feels rather inflammatory.

 

But you really need to calm down a bit. I see exactly just one person here who seems to openly bash Bioware in this thread. Therefore you putting the word "fanboy" in every single sentence of your paragraph seems rather odd. There is no need for such a tirade.

 

Unless of course, you are waging some sort of virtual crusade againts injustice or whatever
 

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Well, good thing I decided to judge the game on its own merits, as opposed to its advertisements. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't give Dragon Age: Origins (a game which I consider heads and shoulders above the first Witcher) a second glance after this atrocious trailer.

[KotorEffect3]

Ok I admit I get a bit worked up about the witcher fanboys,  which oddly enough I think the games themselves are pretty good and have nothing against CDPR but some of those fans just make my blood boil.  Anywho the point is that it is one thing to say DA could take pointers from the witcher but ME?  ME is nothing like Witcher and there is no point in comparing Witcher with ME.  One is a medieval fantasy RPG and the other is a space Sci-Fi RPG/TPS hybrid.  If anything there are probably other franchises that ME would be better looking at before they look at the witcher if they want to take some pointers.

[Vazgen]

Comparing the games can be done on different aspects. Like storytelling, for example. And I'm sure there are some things that ME can learn from Witcher series just as things that Witcher series can learn from Mass Effect. And I don't know if many people know that, but Bioware was a huge help in the creation of CD Projekt Red. Here is an excerpt from an interview with the co-founder of the company - Marcin Iwinski.

 

The ambition initially was gigantic. We pretty much just said, "We have no bloody clue how to do this." But we were finding out along the way. We had licensed Bioware's Aurora engine, again kind of the ghost of Baldur's Gate showing up. I remember we went over to Edmonton to meet with Ray and Greg and we showed them the game. They thought, "Hey, we can help these guys. We can invite them to our booth at E3. It was our first E3, and we had a tiny little corner. I'm still very grateful to both of them for this opportunity, because it really helped us to put the game in front of journalists from all around the world.

One evening we were sitting in a pub with, I think it was Greg. I said, "Greg, we have 15 people. If we had five more we could finish the game." Then he said a phrase, I still remember it, he said, "Marcin. You only see the tip of the iceberg." I said it was like that. We finished the game exactly as they did with the Baldur's Gate plan. Around 80 people on board in '85.

 

And this is a picture of that tiny little corner

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[SpiritMuse]

We wouldn't have FemShep.