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One of the best shows on right now (and certainly better than that overrated Game of Thrones) is Better Call Saul, the spin-off to Breaking Bad centering on James M. McGill, later known as Saul Goodman. It's seventies-ish flare and dark sense of humor make it a show to look out for and so far, it's on better footing than even Breaking Bad. If you have the time, give this show a shot. 

 

 

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i can't wait for the pre-prequel. here's a preview:



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This show is hilarious! I love it!


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I don't watch Breaking Bad.



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I don't watch Breaking Bad.

 

And I don't drink water.

 

Though I should.

 

Like you should.

 

Watch Breaking Bad that is.

 

Because it's glorious.

 

And because

 

You should

 

Because

 

Water is good for you

 

Like Breaking Bad.


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Great show so far. While I doubt it's going to get as intense as Breaking Bad got, it works well with the dark comedy and stands on its own much better than I anticipated. 

 

I do hope they have more scenes with him after the events of Breaking Bad later on, like the first episode's intro. 



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What's interesting is how the show got very high-intensity very quickly, with Jimmy's life in danger from Tuco and the other guy who was planning the robbery, and then dialed it down in the last couple episodes with more focus on Jimmy building his business and the situation with Chuck. After the first few episodes, I guess I was expecting it to remain at that high level of tension.

 

I can't help but wonder how this show will actually end, though. Wrapping it up right before the point where Saul meets Walter White would be kind of anti-climactic, and everything Saul went through because of Walter and his eventual disappearance from Albuquerque are a major part of his life story. But I also can't imagine that they'll spend too many episodes rehashing the events of Breaking Bad from Saul's point of view.



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Latest episode had me laughing as it should be. The kind of show I wanted out of it, more of the dark comedy, especially when it's quirky too.

 


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Loving it.

 

Also amazon´s instant video let´s me get every episode OV or dubbed in HD for a fair price here in good ol´ europe. Loving that too.

 

So much love today. Might burst. Going to catch up on episode 5 now.



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What's interesting is how the show got very high-intensity very quickly, with Jimmy's life in danger from Tuco and the other guy who was planning the robbery, and then dialed it down in the last couple episodes with more focus on Jimmy building his business and the situation with Chuck. After the first few episodes, I guess I was expecting it to remain at that high level of tension.

 

I can't help but wonder how this show will actually end, though. Wrapping it up right before the point where Saul meets Walter White would be kind of anti-climactic, and everything Saul went through because of Walter and his eventual disappearance from Albuquerque are a major part of his life story. But I also can't imagine that they'll spend too many episodes rehashing the events of Breaking Bad from Saul's point of view.

 

Maybe the series finale will be set in the future. It opened with Saul post-Walter White, so maybe it will end that way as well.



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Latest episode had me laughing as it should be. The kind of show I wanted out of it, more of the dark comedy, especially when it's quirky too.

 

 

I laughed like an uncontrollable idiot for 5 minutes from this scene alone



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Maybe the series finale will be set in the future. It opened with Saul post-Walter White, so maybe it will end that way as well.

That's essentially how it was set up in Breaking Bad as well -- It's a framing device, carried over from that show.
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I lol'd.


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Surprised nobody is talking about the most recent episode. Best one in the series so far, for sure. Watched it last night and still haven't quite gotten over it. Jonathan Banks as Mike was bloody fantastic.

 

can we talk about these feels

 

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It's like killing Caesar. Everyone's guilty.

 

Loved it -- Very amazing episode.


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Damn, that was a great episode. 

 

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Best episode yet IMO.

The guy who plays Mike is a fantastic actor.

Kind of funny how Saul was only in 1 part
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I like how this episode gives a whole new perspective on Mike taking Jesse under his wing and trying to steer him away from Walt, when you think about it....

 

Kind of funny how Saul was only in 1 part

 

Gotta love the bit he was in, though.  :lol:

 

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I wonder if they had this backstory for Mike sketched out during BB and just didn't see an opportunity to delve into it. I had sort of assumed from BB that Saul and Mike had both already gotten involved in Albuquerque's underworld before they met each other, but now it looks like they're going to be going that way at least somewhat simultaneously, if not exactly "together."

 

I have to ask, though - how likely is it that a random cab driver just happens to know where to find a corrupt veterinarian that treats bullet wounds on the side?



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I wonder if they'll have Gus Fring standalone episodes when they introduce him in the series? Those would be a dream come true.



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I wonder if they'll have Gus Fring standalone episodes when they introduce him in the series? Those would be a dream come true.

 

In terms of the timeline, am I correct that Breaking Bad is supposed to be somewhere around 2007-09, and that Better Call Saul begins in 2002? It seems likely that Mike had already been working for Gus for a while before they crossed paths with Walter. So I imagine there's a good chance we'll see Gus at some point, even if he doesn't get an entire episode to himself.



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That last episode was easily on par with some of the best episodes of Breaking Bad. Great performance by Jonathan Banks, the actor who plays Mike Ehrmantraut. Although now that we know his backstory,

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I think the latest episode of Better Call Saul stands attest to why Vince Gilligan, as showrunner and creator, is always at the top in regards to good storytelling, which involes; Always packing a tight and careful planned plot, where nothing is left to obscurity -- In a lot of ways we always knew it was coming, the things that happened in this episode and the  that's part of the reason why the impact is big, because the larger concern is always "how it is coming". Even if the writers and Gilligan are seemingly showing their hand through foreshadowing, flashbacks and any knowledge we've been provided by watching Breaking Bad, we still can't quite grasp how it's all gonna hit us. Once we realize how and why, then we are left in awe.

What we'll witness in this episode is the birth of the man who becomes, Saul Goodman.

 

Taking a few things into consideration, what is the truth? "People don't change" or "It's up to you".

We are only an hour long episode away now from a season finale, which hopefully there'll be many more of those to come. As has been carefully established, Jimmy McGill & Mike are the stars of this show, living out their existential differences. For Mike, you always have a choice. You can’t change what you’ve done in the past, but there’s always more than one way to live out the consequences. But Jimmy has just confirmed what he’s always suspected: His future was written in stone years ago. His brother doesn’t believe he can change. And so he’s been systematically blocking any chance Jimmy might have had to do differently.

 

The flashbacks we've seen of an imprisoned Slippin' Jimmy, the whole stick with Chuck's mental health and how it relates to Jimmy's unscrupolous ways of getting ahead in the law business. It all ties together to what has actually been going on the whole time. Chuck cannot permit himself to believe that Jimmy has changed, as his ego will allow that to be true.. The fact that Jimmy so easily rose up the ranks on his territory to the point where Jim piles up a massive case of fraud and extortion at a retirement home where he works. Amazing, right?

 

Pimento” culminates in one of the bitterest scenes I’ve long since seen on TV -- 9 episodes we've been through up until this very moment, where Jimmy's steps into the venal world of Saul Goodman are only drawing ever closer, as countless attempts of comitting himself to hard work and getting out of his way to help his clients and friends. It's remarkably efficient, compared to the seasons it might take another show to accumulate this much pent-up emotion and illustrate in the present the baggage of this much backstory. We've witnessed the source of Chuck’s convictions in a few flashbacks; as I've been mentioning, he’s had to listen more than once to Jimmy's promises that things will be different, that he’s changed. But much more vividly, frequently, and intimately, we’ve seen the dogged determination of Jimmy to change his brother’s mind, to reform himself into someone who serves the good through the means of the law. Someone who uses the law to help the desperate and punish the guilty—to do the right thing, not to make a quick killing. And all of it has been in vain. The great Charles McGill cannot conceive that he might share a profession with his ne’er-do-well brother. His only recourse is to make sure Jimmy stays mired at such a low level that Chuck can safely dismiss him as “not a real lawyer.” 

 

What is so clever, however, is the amount of effort there has been placed into keeping it a secret. It's a complete turn out of left field -- Heck, there's no reason to think that taking on a multi-dollar corporation alone, on behalf of clients whom partially suffers from debilitating psychological conditions, as they are hauled into a courge to argue nuisance filings, while the oppositions drowns the McGill brothers in paperwork enough to fill a State-Villa. As soon as he’s gotten Jimmy to agree to take the case to HHM, Chuck has to scramble to cut off his larger ambitions at the pass. What hurts Jimmy the most is that Chuck subjected himself to the agony of fishing out the quarantined cell phone to call Howard, just to make sure Jimmy wouldn’t get anything a real lawyer might get. “The phone must have felt like a blowtorch in your ear,” Jimmy seethes. That’s how important it was to Chuck to keep Jimmy down. And as loathsome as Howard has been so far, the revelation of Chuck’s longtime sabotage campaign actually puts his Hamlindigo Blue ass in a new light. He’s played the bad guy so Chuck can continue to pretend to be on Jimmy’s side—which, when he explains it to Kim after she protests Jimmy’s treatment, makes her realize how much more it will hurt when Jimmy learns the truth. Unfortunately, when she begs him to take the deal, Jimmy’s spidey sense for bullshit activates, and his strangely dead phone provides the telltale clue.

 

It beckons the question why people keep underestimating Jimmy so much -- He's proven time and time again how resourceful he can be and trying to slip up the Slippin' master through tired platitudes and anecdotes is like installing a revolving door in a bank. 

I think one of the most interesting perspectives this episode made me draw had to be the one that compared Jimmy's development to that of Walt White's.

 

They are so very different. Both born in the light, one who willingly lets himself slip into the dark, while the other is desperately trying to cling to the light, but countless times again and again, he's hindered by those closest to him. Jimmy isn't a bad guy, he's certainly not a hero, but he's a guy who is trying his best to change and please his brother, his friends. He's made so many sacrifices for all of them, and he was even willing enough to give up the perhaps-greatest case of his life to his archnemesis Howard, simply because they implored him to do so. 

 

Case in point -- I hope we get to see Jimmy try his best again to lawyer HHM under the table. All bets are off at this point and Saul Goodman is drawing ever so closer.


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I'd definitely say Gilligan is the modern master of character drama at this point. Even when I know what's going to happen, more or less, it's been pretty damned entertaining to watch Jimmy and Mike's story's unfold. 

 

Also, LOL at Mike knocking Trevor Philips (anyone catch that? That was Steven Ogg. Lester was there too. :P ) on his arse last ep. 

 

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Mike is a BAMF. 

 

"So, what are you packing?"

"A pimento sandwich." 



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Indeed, I immediately noticed it was him. In fact, the guy who came out of the car dresses very similarly to Lester Cresnik from GTA V, even his dialogue and mannerisms seem quite similar.