Or probably because I don't want to restart the game 20 times before my face looks the way I imagined.... What will the Emporium contain besides the mirror ? Some new armors ?
And weapons. Maybe some Skyhold options. And some codex entries. Honestly? I just want the damn mirror.
After installing new patch i notice more Directx error crashes nice, thanks for fixing that BioWare....
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Agreed, seems weird and I cannot see any purpose for it either.
I honestly wouldn't pay for it. Doesn't seem like something that should come with a price. And I would not pay for a storage chest either - something like that should be free and should have come with the standard vanilla game. It is getting to a point in which gaming companies are testing us to see how much they can remove from a game in order to slowly feed back to consumers for a price.
Comparison: It's kind of like when you decide to buy a brand new house. Companies advertise something like, "NEW house, starting at 115,000 dollars!" And once you get in there and talk to the sales person it's, "Oh well it will be so many extra thousands for a kitchen cupboard to store food, and so many extra thousands for a porch, and so many thousands to put the house on a yard, and an extra few thousand for cheap, plastic, venetian blinds." Suddenly that house that was 115k is now 140k. Bait n switch.
It is a selling tactic and it shouldn't be allowed, but so many companies do it. Feels like that is what these video games are becoming nowadays.
"You want more than one type of armour? Buy the DLC. You want different colors for your eyes? Buy the DLC. You want to unlock that extra character? Buy the DLC. You want a storage chest? Buy it. Unlock a race? Pay up. Beat the final battle? Money."
I know the last few are exaggerations, but you never know how far they may push it. The only way to stop these bad habits from forming is to stop giving into these companies and make our voices heard with our wallets. Do not buy small, superfluous DLC that should have been in the original game. I'd rather go without something insignificant than let these companies think they can keep trimming stuff and charging more for it.
:/
Free to new players. If you bought DA2 used, you didn't get it.
That was true until EA did away with charging for Online Pass content, which made it free for everyone. Same with ME2's Cerberus Network.
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That was true until EA did away with charging for Online Pass content, which made it free for everyone. Same with ME2's Cerberus Network.
I ran into a problem the other day. I borrowed a PC copy of DA2 from my brother and booted it into my computer. Low and behold - I was not allowed to play it. Not without my computer being connected to the internet. So I had to connect to the internet and it wanted my EA Origin login. So I logged in. And then the application told me, essentially, "Sorry, but your EA account does not match the registered product code. Click here to purchase Dragon Age 2."
!!!
So, basically, they made it so that you can't even borrow the game. A single player offline game! Or had my brother sold the game to Gamestop and someone bought it pre-owned, they would not have been able to play it.
I was able to play because my brother gave me his EA login info. (Should I even be confessing this? Are the EA police going to come repossess the game from me?)
But what would someone do if they bought it used? What a great way to kill the used game business... Thanks EA! Pr*cks.
I don't think it'd be wise for BioWare to charge for the limited stuff that the Emporium seems to offer, especially after the idea of it being free content circulated throughout the gaming media. Here's hoping it'll be part of Patch 6.
I don't think it'd be wise for BioWare to charge for the limited stuff that the Emporium seems to offer, especially after the idea of it being free content circulated throughout the gaming media. Here's hoping it'll be part of Patch 6.
Really? I want it to be sepertated free content.
@d-boy15 Incorrect, they said and I quoute: "PATCH 5 FEATURING THE BLACK EMPORIUM!" And If it does not, it is false information. However maybe they changed their minds? And chose to seperate it later? If so why didnt they say anything?
I honestly wouldn't pay for it. Doesn't seem like something that should come with a price. And I would not pay for a storage chest either - something like that should be free and should have come with the standard vanilla game. It is getting to a point in which gaming companies are testing us to see how much they can remove from a game in order to slowly feed back to consumers for a price.
Comparison: It's kind of like when you decide to buy a brand new house. Companies advertise something like, "NEW house, starting at 115,000 dollars!" And once you get in there and talk to the sales person it's, "Oh well it will be so many extra thousands for a kitchen cupboard to store food, and so many extra thousands for a porch, and so many thousands to put the house on a yard, and an extra few thousand for cheap, plastic, venetian blinds." Suddenly that house that was 115k is now 140k. Bait n switch.
It is a selling tactic and it shouldn't be allowed, but so many companies do it. Feels like that is what these video games are becoming nowadays.
"You want more than one type of armour? Buy the DLC. You want different colors for your eyes? Buy the DLC. You want to unlock that extra character? Buy the DLC. You want a storage chest? Buy it. Unlock a race? Pay up. Beat the final battle? Money."
I know the last few are exaggerations, but you never know how far they may push it. The only way to stop these bad habits from forming is to stop giving into these companies and make our voices heard with our wallets. Do not buy small, superfluous DLC that should have been in the original game. I'd rather go without something insignificant than let these companies think they can keep trimming stuff and charging more for it.
:/
The last few are exaggerations as of right now. In a few years, maybe not so much. It wasn't that long ago that the (now ex) head of EA seriously contemplated charging players to reload in FPS games. Bioware themselves are known for holding back on-disc content and charging for it as dlc.
And people wonder why CD ProjektRED are so well respected and beloved by their fanbase. Problems are never ignored and quickly patched, in touch with what the community wants. Free dlc both large and small. No DRM, their ultimate editions are packed with content and are actually worth the price. This breeds goodwill and ensures people WANT to buy their stuff and support their continued growth and success.
I honestly wouldn't pay for it. Doesn't seem like something that should come with a price. And I would not pay for a storage chest either - something like that should be free and should have come with the standard vanilla game. It is getting to a point in which gaming companies are testing us to see how much they can remove from a game in order to slowly feed back to consumers for a price.
Comparison: It's kind of like when you decide to buy a brand new house. Companies advertise something like, "NEW house, starting at 115,000 dollars!" And once you get in there and talk to the sales person it's, "Oh well it will be so many extra thousands for a kitchen cupboard to store food, and so many extra thousands for a porch, and so many thousands to put the house on a yard, and an extra few thousand for cheap, plastic, venetian blinds." Suddenly that house that was 115k is now 140k. Bait n switch.
It is a selling tactic and it shouldn't be allowed, but so many companies do it. Feels like that is what these video games are becoming nowadays.
"You want more than one type of armour? Buy the DLC. You want different colors for your eyes? Buy the DLC. You want to unlock that extra character? Buy the DLC. You want a storage chest? Buy it. Unlock a race? Pay up. Beat the final battle? Money."
I know the last few are exaggerations, but you never know how far they may push it. The only way to stop these bad habits from forming is to stop giving into these companies and make our voices heard with our wallets. Do not buy small, superfluous DLC that should have been in the original game. I'd rather go without something insignificant than let these companies think they can keep trimming stuff and charging more for it.
:/
It's a bit of damned if you do and damned if you don't as well. I think there should have been features that came with the game, at the very least being able to save a characters template during CC instead of having to start over from scratch - to me that would eliminate any need for the Mirror altogether.
Things like more armors, and new weapons etc can go both ways. They can always make more, the game could have launched with more - but there has to be a point when they decide, we have enough armor/weapon variety. If people ask for more later - then there is DLC or maybe a patch. It's a way to keep a game fresh the longer it is out and I like to have hope for this type of thing.
Extra story, definitely worth a DLC - They can keep adding and expanding and continuing with some additional story content while the next game is worked on. I like that idea. It gives me a reason to log back into a game I had shelved and put the effort into a new play through. Even if I have done all the other content 100 times, I can do it again and enjoy it because I know there is new things awaiting me at the end. I'll often start a game like this over without beating it a few times because it gives me something to work towards still and have a mystery waiting for me.
Really? I want it to be sepertated free content.
That'd be fine, too, but they'll probably need to have the game up to date anyway to allow the Emporium content to hand-shake with the base game.
That'd be fine, too, but they'll probably need to have the game up to date anyway to allow the Emporium content to hand-shake with the base game.
All I want is the magical mirror and Xenon, that dude is the coolest char in the DA series... Well after that Hermit in DAO LOL
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It wasn't that long ago that the (now ex) head of EA seriously contemplated charging players to reload in FPS games. (1)
And people wonder why CD ProjektRED (2) are so well respected and beloved by their fanbase. Problems are never ignored and quickly patched, in tough with what the community wants. Free dlc both large and small. No DRM, their ultimate editions are packed with content and are actually worth the price. This breeds goodwill and ensures people WANT to buy their stuff and support their continued growth and success.
(1) WHAT???? Holy crap that is horrible.
(2) I don't know much about them but I hear good things. I am also very very very intrigued by this prospective Cyberpunk game...
In theory you could take it to court, and probably win. It's ambigious sentance can bee seen as misleading the consumer/false advertising, as there was no stipulation at the bottom of the page ' even in supersmall print' that it was Beta only.
That's a bit harsh but I know what you mean.
BioWare has never been a company known for their PR. In fact, their PR borders on horrible a lot of the time, and this is just another example among many over the years.
Really? I want it to be sepertated free content.
And weapons. Maybe some Skyhold options. And some codex entries. Honestly? I just want the damn mirror.
I won't touch the game until the mirror is out... For my last run I had to restart 18 times to make the face right. The agony was worth it in the end but pure thought of going through the process of creating another face just makes me sick.
Oh and of course.. I can't use my cute face anymore. Will the emporium feature some way of using my previous faces ? It's such a shame that some beautiful creations go to waste because they can't be used or edited for a future campaign. 
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It's a bit of damned if you do and damned if you don't as well. I think there should have been features that came with the game, at the very least being able to save a characters template during CC instead of having to start over from scratch - to me that would eliminate any need for the Mirror altogether.
Things like more armors, and new weapons etc can go both ways. They can always make more, the game could have launched with more - but there has to be a point when they decide, we have enough armor/weapon variety. If people ask for more later - then there is DLC or maybe a patch. It's a way to keep a game fresh the longer it is out and I like to have hope for this type of thing.
Extra story, definitely worth a DLC - They can keep adding and expanding and continuing with some additional story content while the next game is worked on. I like that idea. It gives me a reason to log back into a game I had shelved and put the effort into a new play through. Even if I have done all the other content 100 times, I can do it again and enjoy it because I know there is new things awaiting me at the end. I'll often start a game like this over without beating it a few times because it gives me something to work towards still and have a mystery waiting for me.
Extra story - definitely. Agreed. Like 10 extra hours' worth of story, including some new characters to interact with. Not new, permanent companions (I know they said we won't be getting those) - just new characters for that particular DLC. I would pay, say, 15-20 bucks for that.
I'm not sure there's a difference. Can you even install DLC on an unpatched game? The BE requires at least patch 5 to run anyway.
You can in theory, but it never happens because DLC tends to assume your game is updated, and in many cases won't work without the latest patch.
The Black Emporium is not part of patch 5 for @dragonage. We are continuing to work on it based on the great beta feedback we received.
https://twitter.com/...832394446807040
Extra story - definitely. Agreed. Like 10 extra hours' worth of story, including some new characters to interact with. Not new, permanent companions (I know they said we won't be getting those) - just new characters for that particular DLC. I would pay, say, 15-20 bucks for that.
10 hours ? Any chance for an Awakening like DLC to set things in motion for the next game ? I'm dying to find out what's next with Solas....
Tho you can tint armour in the undercroft
Oh, can we? I don't remember tint among the patch notes. Is it supposed to be a surprise?
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10 hours ? Any chance for an Awakening like DLC to set things in motion for the next game ? I'm dying to find out what's next with Solas....
That's honestly what went through my head when I said ten hours. Awakening. I love that expansion.
The article's headline says "Introducing the DAI Patch 5 Beta Program, Featuring the Black Emporium." It also says: "As part of the beta, participants will have access to the Black Emporium." Beta of what though? Beta of the patch? If you look at the title it certainly implies such. Or beta of the Emporium?
Plus people (meaning me) asked when the news was first released whether the Emporium would be included in the patch and that was ignored. It's ambiguous leaning towards misleading.
The Patch 5 Beta Program did feature the Black Emporium. And those who participated did have access to the Black Emporium. That's exactly what those statements said who be the case.
But that's not the same as patch 5 having the Black Emporium in it. Nowhere did it say the Black Emporium would be in patch 5. That is just what people assumed it meant.
Oh, can we? I don't remember tint among the patch notes. Is it supposed to be a surprise?
No it was just left out by accident
Oh, can we? I don't remember tint among the patch notes. Is it supposed to be a surprise?
It's in the patch notes.
And ofc the typical CDPR plugging again, sheesh. We don't even know yet what the plan for TBE is. I'm sad we didn't get it in Update/Patch 5 but yeesh, calm down and wait for further information. (Also, how are CDPR's pathetic free fluff DLC supposed to cheer me up about not getting the BE, lmao.)
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