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[KBomb]

Such great maturity. *slow clap*


You don't have to farm for materials. You can go through the game without crafting and I'd prefer the devs spending time on other things then reintroducing an exploit.

I may agree with you about not having to farm, but go the whole game without crafting? I mean, the loot is crap. Crafting is the only way to get decent gear, tbh.

Not to mention that crafting is suppose to be fun. I spent so much time crafting in Skyrim. I crafted all the time. In a game where crafting is suppose to be a huge draw, one shouldn't have to forgo it because the system is at best flawed.

[Cloud43]

So the best thing to do for future playthroughs is to reinstall the game, don't download the patch, get as far in the game where you're comfortable to continue without the exploits, profit??

 

 

Are there any game breaking bugs that one would encounter without having any patches installed?

[Vader20]

I may agree with you about not having to farm, but go the whole game without crafting? I mean, the loot is crap. Crafting is the only way to get decent gear, tbh.

Not to mention that crafting is suppose to be fun. I spent so much time crafting in Skyrim. I crafted all the time. In a game where crafting is suppose to be a huge draw, one shouldn't have to forgo it because the system is at best flawed.

 

I'm not a big fan of crafting, but DAI made me enjoy it. My only problem is that I don't like crafting the same looking crap over and over again. Like Apprentice armor looks the same as grand enchanter armor or whatever.... seriously what the ***k ?

[Weskerr]

Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people complain about exploits being fixed?

[(Disgusted noise.)]

They took out the amulet of power duping? Ugh. I really liked that.

 

This is just stupid.

[Keitaro57]

Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people complain about exploits being fixed?

Old-gen customers want their LOT of bugs be fixed. Meantime, Bioware put a lot of efforts to fix harmless exploits. The new patch bring even more bugs! So, yeah, some people want Bioware to work on another things that patching exploits...

[RenAdaar]

Aren't the exploits bugs them selves though? So its only natural to assume that they would be fixed eventually like all the others.

[KBomb]

Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people complain about exploits being fixed?

Nah, or at least I don't find it as disturbing as those who care so much about what other people want, especially when it doesn't hinder, effect, or harm them in any way.

But then people wouldn't be able to complain about those who complain and then others couldn't complain about those who complain about complainers and then where would we be? It's a silly 'ole BSN, innit?

[RenAdaar]

Does anyone else find it disturbing that some people complain about exploits being fixed?

I find it more silly then anything really.

[Weskerr]

Old-gen customers want their LOT of bugs be fixed. Meantime, Bioware put a lot of efforts to fix harmless exploits. The new patch bring even more bugs! So, yeah, some people want Bioware to work on another things that patching exploits...

So your problem is not that exploits (they're called "exploits" because people are exploiting bugs)  are being fixed, but that they're being fixed before other bugs? I can understand where you're coming from, but when you think about it logically, developers will mostly likely fix the easy bugs before they fix the more complicated bugs. And even if this exploit wasn't easy to fix, BioWare obviously puts fixing bug exploits on high priority.

[Weskerr]

Nah, or at least I don't find it as disturbing as those who care so much about what other people want, especially when it doesn't hinder, effect, or harm them in any way.

But then people wouldn't be able to complain about those who complain and then others couldn't complain about those who complain about complainers and then where would we be? It's a silly 'ole BSN, innit?

I don't care what other people want in this specific case. But do you honestly think that any self-respecting developer will allow an exploit to remain in their game when they can fix it? It's absurd to think otherwise. I don't think developers like it when players cheat their way through their games (via exploits).

[Keitaro57]

So your problem is not that exploits (they're called "exploits" because people are exploiting bugs)  are being fixed, but that they're being fixed before other bugs? I can understand where you're coming from, but when you think about it logically, developers will mostly likely fix the easy bugs before they fix the more complicated bugs.

We are at the 5th Patch and some of us are still locked at the "press start button". The game was released in November and it is March! So what? we must wait until next-gen and PC get a perfect, smoothly running and bugless game before they BEGIN to take care on us?

 

Before fixing exploit that take a hit on the balance of a SINGLEPLAYER game, it is better to fix bugs that make the game DON'T LAUNCH AT ALL!

 

Yeah, I use a lot of capslock! But think about it : If we were talking about a car with serious motor issues, the constructor will take all his efforts to change the color of the wheel. We are really tired of this silence treatment.

 

If the big bug need a lot of work, they have more chance to alter the game when working on. So, the probability than fixing this bugs will giving lot of minor issues is high. Why try to correct all the small fry and take apart big fishes who will bring a lot of small fry when attacked?

 

Patch 6 will be the patch for the key binding for PC. Perhaps in Patch 8 or 9, they will begin to fix major lethal bugs.

[KBomb]

I don't care what other people want in this specific case. But do you honestly think that any self-respecting developer will allow an exploit to remain in their game when they can fix it? It's absurd to think otherwise.

Like the exploits that still exist in Origins? Of course, different developers.... Oh wait.

Personally, I don't expect them to put the exploits back. Never asked them to, don't expect them to. I do feel the loot system is poorly implemented and I hope they fix it-- but if they aren't going to bother, then yeah, I feel they should have left it alone.

[Weskerr]

We are at the 5th Patch and some of us are still locked at the "press start button". The game was released in November and it is March! So what? we must wait until next-gen and PC get a perfect, smoothly running and bugless game before they BEGIN to take care on us?

 

Before fixing exploit that take a hit on the balance of a SINGLEPLAYER game, it is better to fix bugs that make the game DON'T LAUNCH AT ALL!

 

Yeah, I use a lot of capslock! But think about it : If we were talking about a car with serious motor issues, the constructor will take all his efforts to change the color of the wheel. We are really tired of this silence treatment.

 

If the big bug need a lot of work, they have more chance to alter the game when working on. So, the probability than fixing this bugs will giving lot of minor issues is high. Why try to correct all the small fry and take apart big fishes who will bring a lot of small fry when attacked?

 

Patch 6 will be the patch for the key binding for PC. Perhaps in Patch 8 or 9, they will begin to fix major lethal bugs.

I think the "silent treatment" you referred to is a separate matter from fixing bugs. That's more a reflection of customer service. Also, the fact that there are so many bugs is a separate matter from actually fixing the bugs. If you think their customer service is bad that is your right and privilege and you have the right to express that. I agree with you that the fact the game shipped with so many bugs is unacceptable. This is an industry-wide problem and players need to express their disapproval both through forums and their money. 

 

However, I think when it comes to fixing bugs, you should expect that certain bugs (or even unfinished features) will be fixed before other bugs. You should also expect that fixing exploits will be of high priority to developers. Game-breaking bugs should be of the highest priority to fix. You mentioned that there's a bug that prevents the game from being started: This is honestly the first I've heard of that, but if that bug is rare as opposed to widespread, it's not surprising that it hasn't been fixed yet. I myself have never experienced this particular game-breaking bug.

[Ieldra]

The latest patch disables mods.

Not all. The God Mode function of the CheatEngine script still works. I've been using it for testing. A few of the others still work as well. If I could only have my Skyhold outfit mod back, that's they only thing I really care about.

[KBomb]

Not all. The God Mode function of the CheatEngine script still works. I've been using it for testing. A few of the others still work as well. If I could only have my Skyhold outfit mod back, that's they only thing I really care about.

Speaking of the Skyhold outfit, can you tint it since the new patch?

[Keitaro57]

About the "industry-wide" bug problem, my answer is NO!

It's a new-gen wide problem. When the PS2 and the xbox ruled on market, the games were finished at release. No patch needed : the glitched games doesn't sale at all and the publisher were punished at the start.

Now, with the internet bandwidth and the fact the majority of the consoles are connect, the patch are in the program of the devs SINCE THE START of the game creation. Nowadays, the dayone patch is absolutely needed to make the game launch! For that reason, a lot of publishers don't give samples to reviewers before launch, because the know the game won't work.

Patching the game post-release is a lazy habit bringed by the occidental view of market. Just look at Nintendo product.

 

If you take a look in my sign, I have made a review about my DAI experience on Xbox360. It looks pretty bad and the graphics are really not the main issue. A lot of old-gen gamers have a lot of different issues about this game and we payed the same price that the others ones.

 

We are waiting, waiting, waiting, clinging to our games, hoping they will work... and see Bioware fixing exploits that, for a lot of us who can't play the game at all, never heard about it. With the many and many glitches making our runs desperatly bad, fixing the very very very small quantity of glitches making it better give us a bad signal. They don't care about the quality of the old-gen game. They seem like they only want to punish us more.

[Ieldra]

Speaking of the Skyhold outfit, can you tint it since the new patch?

Nope. There has been no change regarding this obnoxious outfit. Which is rather disappointing since it's the second thing I encountered that was completely unsatisfactory (the first thing was the zoom on the tac cam, which is now usable at least outdoors. 

[Coyote X Starrk]

Play the game correctly and the way it was originally intended to be played. 

 

 

Problem solved. 

 

 

Its their vision and narrative to be played out however they see fit. Not yours. 

[KBomb]

Play the game correctly and the way it was originally intended to be played.


Problem solved.


Its their vision and narrative to be played out however they see fit. Not yours.

So, I guess all mods and cheat engines are a big no no, too! Good luck selling that.

[berelinde]

Not all. The God Mode function of the CheatEngine script still works. I've been using it for testing. A few of the others still work as well. If I could only have my Skyhold outfit mod back, that's they only thing I really care about.

Turns out that Renmiri found a workaround that involved nothing more than renaming two folders. So yeah, my grumbling was premature. What can I say? My dislike of beige is intense.

[Teddie Sage]

 

 

Such great maturity. *slow clap*

 

 

 

Just channeling my inner Sera. 

[Teddie Sage]

Play the game correctly and the way it was originally intended to be played. 

 

 

Problem solved. 

 

 

Its their vision and narrative to be played out however they see fit. Not yours. 

Their vision is messed up if it uses boring RNGs for their loot system though. Whether you agree or not with this, is fact.

Edit: Not that the RNGs are boring, but the fact that RNGs are there to begin with.

[Farangbaa]

I have the patch and I'm still able to farm schematics.

Is everybody just ignoring this or something?

[DanteYoda]

What was the loot Exploit?