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Patch 5 is cool but the additions to the Undercroft are late...


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I love that they added the ability to change the colors of you armor, and the fact that you can change specific parts is great (metal, leather, or cloth). The storage chest is my favorite thing! I can't tell you how many armors or weapons I had that I thought were amazing that I wanted to keep but couldn't waste the inventory space or got something better. That's why I feel this was a late addition. This is something that most games like this have from the start. It almost makes me want to stop playing my save to start over for all of the items i had to get rid of. Especially quest items, in other games, such as Skyrim, i was obsessed with keeping unique items as a badge of my accomplishments. I guess i can do that now but being 223 hours into the game, there's a lot of things I missed.
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I love that they added the ability to change the colors of you armor, and the fact that you can change specific parts is great (metal, leather, or cloth). The storage chest is my favorite thing! I can't tell you how many armors or weapons I had that I thought were amazing that I wanted to keep but couldn't waste the inventory space or got something better. That's why I feel this was a late addition. This is something that most games like this have from the start. It almost makes me want to stop playing my save to start over for all of the items i had to get rid of. Especially quest items, in other games, such as Skyrim, i was obsessed with keeping unique items as a badge of my accomplishments. I guess i can do that now but being 223 hours into the game, there's a lot of things I missed.

 

Yep, storage chest should have been there from the beginning. I guess they were too busy or lazy to add it.


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Yep, storage chest should have been there from the beginning. I guess they were too busy or lazy to add it.

Programming isn't always easy on new engines. Please don't be so rude. They tried first time around and it didn't work. At least it's there now for people who are starting new playthroughs. I'm thankful for them.


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Programming isn't always easy on new engines. Please don't be so rude. They tried first time around and it didn't work. At least it's there now for people who are starting new playthroughs. I'm thankful for them.

I'd be more sympathetic to the devs if they hadn't charged full price for an unfinished product... as a consumer, this kind of excuse doesn't sit well with me.  It didn't work in high school when my homework was late, and it doesn't work in most businesses out in the real world... if a waiter told you, "sorry, we ran out of time while preparing your meal, but here's most of it..." would you, or anyone else, be happy with that?  Video games don't deserve a pass just because they can be patched via the internet... if anything, that just encourages them to put out shoddy products, since so many people seem to be okay with the idea that a patch might eventually solve things.  In many cases patches either don't work, aren't released, or break something that previously worked, but this is still a persistent fact of the gaming industry for some reason...


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got the chest were is the emporium now ?


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I sort of assumed that due to the crafting options available, that's why a storage chest wasn't added- to encourage you to cannibalise parts to forge your own items.

That being said however, i do agree with alot of what icy said.

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got the chest were is the emporium now ?


The emporium is still in beta i believe.

Hopefully not too much longer.
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Here is the List : http://blog.bioware....-patch-5-notes/



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Programming isn't always easy on new engines. Please don't be so rude. They tried first time around and it didn't work. At least it's there now for people who are starting new playthroughs. I'm thankful for them.

Its not rude to expect a game to be released with basic features for your platform. The Devs were paid to make a game for a specific Platform (PC) and they failed miserably. They couldn't even include the most basic of basics with mouse binds, walking toggles  etc etc etc. 

 

When people in almost ever other industry screw up on such an epic scale they would be fired. But this is entertainment so I get its not that big of a deal but people should really put things in perspective every once in a while and realize this is a JOB...and they suck at it lol. 


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Blame EA for rushing them, then. 


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Blame EA for rushing them, then.


Well said Teddie!

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Blame EA for rushing them, then. 

Stop giving Bioware a free pass. It's only going to encourage them to continue to release unfinished, shoddy products. The game was pushed back twice, something as simple as a storage chest could have easily been added during that time, and the game was still released as a buggy mess.

 

You can't just lump all of the blame on EA, there are plenty of EA games that aren't half finished and barely playable. It isn't a coincidence though that multiple Bioware titles have been.

 

People need to stop placing Bioware on a pedestal and letting them off the hook when they wouldn't for other devs. Everyone else is judged on the content they actually put out, not what people think they are capable of or the game they tried to make. As long as this remains the case the consumers are going to continue to be taken advntage of in this way.


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Stop giving Bioware a free pass. It's only going to encourage them to continue to release unfinished, shoddy products.

 

I think people should stop defending EA Games. They did get the gold pile of s**t for worst gaming company two years in a row after all. This team in particular deserved more time to polish this game.



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I think people should stop defending EA Games. They did get the gold pile of s**t for worst gaming company two years in a row after all. This team in particular deserved more time to polish this game.

Has anyone ever actually defended EA? It's not something I can say i've ever witnessed.


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Blame EA for rushing them, then. 

BioWare is EA

 

Before anyone quotes me, im not meaning it in a derogatory way, im just stating the facts, BioWare is not a separate company, they are a division of EA much like the freezer section of your local supermarket, BioWare is EA much like EA is BioWare



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BioWare is EA

BioWare merged with EA, but they have many studios everywhere working for different franchises. They still have bosses over them making all the decisions and deciding about the deadlines.



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BioWare merged with EA, but they have many studios everywhere working for different franchises. They still have bosses over them making all the decisions and deciding about the deadlines.

BioWare and EA did not "merge" EA bought BioWare, hence Bioware is EA and EA is Bioware, it is not like Activision/Blizzard, that's a merger, EA OWNS Bioware, BioWare are the employees of EA, insult EA you insult BioWare, they are the self same thing



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BioWare and EA did not "merge" EA bought BioWare, hence Bioware is EA and EA is Bioware, it is not like Activision/Blizzard, that's a merger, EA OWNS Bioware, BioWare are the employees of EA, insult EA you insult BioWare, they are the self same thing

Believe what you want.



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This sort of insult is the reason why these threads get shot down. 

By insulting EA you are insulting BioWare



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Teddie Sage

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By insulting EA you are insulting BioWare

Not really. I know where my loyalty stands and it's not with EA but BioWare's RPG makers.


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Believe what you want.

Truth may be hard for you to understand, but please try it some day



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Truth may be hard for you to understand, but please try it some day

Truth may be that I don't care what you think I should believe because my opinion is mine and mine alone.



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BioWare and EA did not "merge" EA bought BioWare, hence Bioware is EA and EA is Bioware, it is not like Activision/Blizzard, that's a merger, EA OWNS Bioware, BioWare are the employees of EA, insult EA you insult BioWare, they are the self same thing

That's not how it works. If I were to insult EA over a game made by, say, Criterion, would that really be an insult against Bioware? I would say no, no more than insulting Disney over a Touchstone movie would be an insult against Marvel Comics.


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teddie now you just sound like a child

 

simple fact is your "opinion" is wrong, your entitled to it i grant you that, but it being wrong will never change

 

peace im outtae here



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teddie now you just sound like a child

 

simple fact is your "opinion" is wrong, your entitled to it i grant you that, but it being wrong will never change

 

peace im outtae here

Thanks for the insult, just shows me you can't win an argument with someone who doesn't think like you do. Have a good night.