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I feel this thing so strongly. Also, can I mention from an art direction stand point, what they did with Jareth's wardrobe throughout the entirety of the film was brilliant? The costume designer specifically introduced the character entirely clad in black. Each scene he is in, he sheds more and more black until at the end of the film he is dressed in pure white. The reason for this is two fold - it solidifies his connection to the owl he becomes to watch over Sarah throughout her waking hours, and it further presents this moment as the moment of truth - the wedding scene. He is completely upfront about his motives - he no longer hides behind Sarah's fears and expectations (i.e. the black he wore). But, what he asks for - her in her entirety - her heart, her free will, and her dreams (i.e. the orb), is too heavy a price. Sarah rejects the wedding scene, seeing past the purity of feeling to the obsessive control over her Jareth desires. A desire that enslaves him.

So returning to the Glitterotica - I would be so down if they had wardrobe changes to show their development or your understanding of them. I know, I know, that would take more time to model/ texture, but it would mean SO MUCH to me. I'll side with Vivienne here and say that your wardrobe is half of your power. 

 

Yes to all of that about Jareth's wardrobe, but also: the bulge.

(Yeah I had to ruin a perfectly good analysis about the symbolic nature of a character's wardrobe and reduce it to genital parts again. Guess I really am twelve.)

Though, I think I should rewatch Labyrinth again, for the little stuff like that I probably had missed the first times, and I love discovering them!



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I'm mildly surprised but the people who weren't in solas thread before or were lurking started popping up and glad the sm*t is gone. Why don't they like our smut or Stevehen?

 

edit: aaannnd my empathy is gone. Time to draw some waifu pillows.


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Who is this pretender?

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I fail to see the problem. I feel he is also giving "glamour toad" realness. 



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Siha, je t'aime; 사랑해 (saranghae); te amo ab imo pectore et in aeternum.

 

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.

I love thee to the depth and breadth and height

My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with a passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints, --- I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

 

Browning, Sonnet 43

 

 

Escrito está en mi alma vuestro gesto,
y cuanto yo escribir de vos deseo;
vos sola lo escribisteis, yo lo leo
tan solo, que aun de vos me guardo en esto.

En esto estoy y estaré siempre puesto;
que aunque no cabe en mí cuanto en vos veo,
de tanto bien lo que no entiendo creo,
tomando ya la fe por presupuesto.

Yo no nací sino para quereros;
mi alma os ha cortado a su medida;
por hábito del alma mismo os quiero.

Cuanto tengo confieso yo deberos;
por vos nací, por vos tengo la vida,
por vos he de morir, y por vos muero.

 

Garcilaso de la Vega, Soneto V
 


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Who is this pretender?

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I'm beginning to warm up to the idea that June is an out of shape squishy mess that "built himself" an outer shell. 


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#231
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Well I guess it depends if you are a surface kind of person or one who looks a little deeper... Unfortunately the studies of St Peter for The Last Supper which do resemble Solas are locked by museums, here's a close up view of St Peter...

 

 

 

 

It's not about being deeper or not, I'd just rather not get convoluted, hence why I don't do random speculation unless I have something at least semisolid to go off of. A character's profile is one thing, but you can't deny numbers.



#232
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*walks into the thread for amusing glitter jokes*

*Dionysian and Apollonian references used for Arlathan*

*Paradise Lost quoted*

...:D


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I'm mildly surprised but the people who weren't in solas thread before or were lurking started popping up and glad the sm*t is gone. Why don't they like our smut or Stevehen?

 

edit: aaannnd my empathy is gone. Time to draw some waifu pillows.

Everybody loves Stevhen.  Or they should. If they don't, they're wrong.

 

I'm beginning to warm up to the idea that June is an out of shape squishy mess that "built himself" an outer shell. 

It's the only way i'll accept him.  he definitely has a manbun as well.


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I'm beginning to warm up to the idea that June is an out of shape squishy mess that "built himself" an outer shell. 

He also served in the Arlathan police force

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I'm mildly surprised but the people who weren't in solas thread before or were lurking started popping up and glad the sm*t is gone. Why don't they like our smut or Stevehen?

 

edit: aaannnd my empathy is gone. Time to draw some waifu pillows.

I conscientiously tagged every instance of potential glitter pecs. Wherefore? 

 

Stevhen is a treasure. 

 

On topic: Solas is a great character.



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I conscientiously tagged every instance of potential glitter pecs. Wherefore? 

 

Stevhen is a treasure. 

 

On topic: Solas is a great character.

What's a..."Solas"???

 

Also, I only have the mental capacity(see: giving an 'eff) to only keep up with one active thread.  Let me know when I need to go in there to drop the one true gif.



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I feel this thing so strongly. Also, can I mention from an art direction stand point, what they did with Jareth's wardrobe throughout the entirety of the film was brilliant? The costume designer specifically introduced the character entirely clad in black. Each scene he is in, he sheds more and more black until at the end of the film he is dressed in pure white. The reason for this is two fold - it solidifies his connection to the owl he becomes to watch over Sarah throughout her waking hours, and it further presents this moment as the moment of truth - the wedding scene. He is completely upfront about his motives - he no longer hides behind Sarah's fears and expectations (i.e. the black he wore). But, what he asks for - her in her entirety - her heart, her free will, and her dreams (i.e. the orb), is too heavy a price. Sarah rejects the wedding scene, seeing past the purity of feeling to the obsessive control over her Jareth desires. A desire that enslaves him.

So returning to the Glitterotica - I would be so down if they had wardrobe changes to show their development or your understanding of them. I know, I know, that would take more time to model/ texture, but it would mean SO MUCH to me. I'll side with Vivienne here and say that your wardrobe is half of your power. 


EDIT: FOR SIHA: LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER SPARKLE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SPARRRRKLE SEX GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE OBSESSION LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER BOMB LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SEX LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE BLOOD SACRIFICE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SLAVE GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE MURDER KNIFE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER

 

Came for the Bacchanal, stayed for the Jesus x Judas OTP, fell in love when Bowie was brought into the Glitterotica

 

You. You are my people.


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EDIT: FOR SIHA: LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER SPARKLE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SPARRRRKLE SEX GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE OBSESSION LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER BOMB LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SEX LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE BLOOD SACRIFICE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE SLAVE GLITTER LOVE LOVE LOVE MURDER KNIFE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE GLITTER

 

This warm an fuzzy feeling inside, which.... wait.

 

Siha, je t'aime; 사랑해 (saranghae); te amo ab imo pectore et in aeternum.

 

<Browning, Sonnet 43>

 

And I am convinced you recited this by heart. All for me! And even in a language I can understand.

 

I'm mildly surprised but the people who weren't in solas thread before or were lurking started popping up and glad the sm*t is gone. Why don't they like our smut or Stevehen?

 

I am just glad that the sexual hints and the use of GIFs has finally ended in the Solas thread ... yeah.

 

On topic: Solas That one god from the Pantheon is a great character.

 

Wrong thread. I fixed it.



#240
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Argh. My likes!!! Where did they goooo?????????

 

I think we've done more true analysis of Solas in the last 5 pages than the actual Solas thread has managed in the last 1000 pages. It probably helps that we don't have unicorns to shout us down. 

 

I'm not certain Sylaise was one of the weakest of the Pantheon, personally. She's noted as "sister to Andruil" but interestingly enough, neither of them are referred to as "children of Elgar'nan/Mythal". Only Falon'din (and maybe Dirthamen by association) is mentioned as a child of gods. Fen'harel is clearly something else entirely, as was Ghilan'nain (who was offered godhood in exchange for destroying her most terrifying creations by Andruil). June....well...I think we've got June squared away :D


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On topic: Did anyone else find it strange that the location of Mythal's temple is in southern Orlais? A vast distance from Arlathan (northern shore of Tevinter)? Yes, I understand that they had Eluvian travel and thus had no need of roads, but it's still odd to have the temple of the second most member of your pantheon so far removed from the capital of your empire.

 

I think it's because if you have too many queens in one place, there is going to be some drama. And Head Queen in Charge Mythal probably said, "You know what? I'm going to make you plebs come to me if you want my help." Search your heart, you know she would do this.


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It's okay. They just couldn't handle the glitter or the erotica that we had to offer. Let them continue to cross-stitch their days of the week panties with "SOLAS' ONE TRUE VHENAN <3<3<3" over the ass while crying into the communal tear bucket that says "SOLAS OR GTFO." Please understand that this is satire people. Here, a wikipedia link to what satire means.

We on the other hand, have **** to do. Pantheon theories! Waifu pillows, glitter bombs, and artistic depictions of the absolutely most hedonistic and batshit insane pantheon known to man! Samson tears! David Bowie fangirling! And thigh worship!

On topic: Did anyone else find it strange that the location of Mythal's temple is in southern Orlais? A vast distance from Arlathan (northern shore of Tevinter)? Yes, I understand that they had Eluvian travel and thus had no need of roads, but it's still odd to have the temple of the second most member of your pantheon so far removed from the capital of your empire.

It was more curious to me that the Arbor Wilds seemed to border on jungle, or at least being very warm, when it's in the bottom south of Thedas, close to the Korcari Wilds and the beginning of the ice plains.

It'd make sense to have a place of judgement be accessible only be a few Eluvians held by your strongholds in the capital city and elsewhere, and be far away. That would prevent Dirthamen sending a horde of Alamarri to save his priest, or a dragon swooping in.

While Sylvaise's songs mention Mythal running cities, which implies Arlathan wasn't just a lone city with many colonies, it seems she also enjoyed vacationing in southern Thedas. The Alamarri spent some time in Orlais before they moved across the Frostbacks, I imagine. It wouldn't be out of the question for her to have started moonlighting as the Lady of the Skies then.

The notion that the Elvhen had many cities with their own gods of focus lends more to the 'The Elvhen=Greek City-State Era' parallels.



#243
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<You forgot to mention the rune panties>

 

On topic: Did anyone else find it strange that the location of Mythal's temple is in southern Orlais? A vast distance from Arlathan (northern shore of Tevinter)? Yes, I understand that they had Eluvian travel and thus had no need of roads, but it's still odd to have the temple of the second most member of your pantheon so far removed from the capital of your empire.

I have to wonder if the forest was more/less than it was at that time.  We hear Solas remark - a few times - about how different the landscape has looks.  It could also have been far because it was a spiritual retreat more than anything.  Only the most devout were really welcome there.  It was a place of meditation and likely they would do so for decades. 

 

EDIT: Also, I wonder if it was so far because they were warring with eachother.  So the main temple which housed her priests collected knowledge - was likely far removed from the main city as a form of protection.


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#244
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I think it's because if you have too many queens in one place, there is going to be some drama. And Head Queen in Charge Mythal probably said, "You know what? I'm going to make you plebs come to me if you want my help." Search your heart, you know she would do this.

That could be it. Also, Elvhenan had no roads or infrastructure...they traveled by eluvian. Does distance really matter when you can step through a magic mirror?



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So this is the new hate on Solas thread thread?

Some of us fought to keep you guys around. Some of us stood up for you guys when people got their panties in a twist and shoved up their ass.

Pfft.
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I'm beginning to warm up to the idea that June is an out of shape squishy mess that "built himself" an outer shell.

 
So...a volus?
 

1) You're correct - the microclimate of the Arbor Wilds is incredibly curious. It shouldn't exist where it does and yet, it does. The same goes for the Emerald Graves. The same areas of the Hinterlands that are that far south are covered in snow and yet.. The Emerald Graves appear to be a constantly verdant landscape. Perhaps some magic from the ancient days of Arlathan lingers there, maintaining the climate?


So is the microclimate of Skyhold. We're in the mountains. Everyone should be freezing their butts off, but they're clearly not.  Though TBH I'd be hesitant about chalking it up to magic.  We've discussed before how timeline, language, and things like the Last Supper picture of the companions shouldn't be picked apart too much.  It's very possible that the devs could have just decided they wanted a change of scenery from the standard fantasy mountains, forest, etc. for the Arbor Wilds.


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#249
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So this is the new hate on Solas thread thread?

Some of us fought to keep you guys around. Some of us stood up for you guys when people got their panties in a twist and shoved up their ass.

Pfft.

It's more of a reaction to the "I'm glad they're gone" posts. 

 

This thread just kind of happened in a puff of glitter and haze. There are no gatekeepers, and all are welcome.

 

You are welcome.

 

To echo Liz and quote the immortal Journey:

 

"So now I come to you, with open arms
Nothing to hide, believe what I say
So here I am with open arms
Hoping you'll see what your love means to me
Open arms"


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It's more of a reaction to the "I'm glad they're gone" posts. 

 

This thread just kind of happened in a puff of glitter and haze. There are no gatekeepers, and all are welcome.

 

You are welcome.

 

To echo Liz:

 

So now I come to you, with open arms
Nothing to hide, believe what I say
So here I am with open arms
Hoping you'll see what your love means to me
Open arms"

 

No one has said that we're glad you're gone.  The most that's been said are some of us are glad the smut will tone down.