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Dubya75

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Makes you wonder? No, it's doesn't actually.

 

But hey, keep on trucking with your anti-BioWare ranting.

 

Wait....you are telling me that my opinion does not belong to me? Or what...that I am not entitled to have an opinion on the matter? Which is it, both?

 

If you have a problem with me personally (which seems apparent) why don't you send me a PM instead?



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You are very entitled to your opinion, but conspiracy theories? Come on dude!



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Dubya75

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You can be tired of something even when it's successful ! My fanfiction was very successful, and people harassed me about it, and I still was unable to continue. My interest went simply to other things that excited me. Many were disappointed, and I was truly sorry, but It's just that I wasn't anymore interested writting this story. It serves absolutely no purpose to work on a project that doesn't interest you anymore, regardless of the success ! 

 

Now, I don't know David's Gaider reasons, but there could be many personal and legetimate reasons that could explain why he leaves.

 

I wish to Gaider good luck for his new project, he is good at working at them , thank you for DAO, Alistair, Morrigan, and Cassandra. 

 

Sure, that is also true...in which case it would have made moe sense to me that he's leave at the end of the DAI project when they are done with any story DLC or expansion and start working on the next major title in the series.



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Sure, that is also true...in which case it would have made moe sense to me that he's leave at the end of the DAI project when they are done with any story DLC or expansion and start working on the next major title in the series.

But as a writer, even with story DLC incoming would his primary role not already be done?


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Funny how he decides to leave just after the most successful DA launch....makes you wonder, doesn't it...

 

Successful launch for EA, yes. They managed to market the game in a way to boost sales.

But why would someone leave a franchise at the top of its game after so many years of hard work? 

 

Maybe things with the franchise is not quite as it appears and Gaider made a wise choice to get out while the opportunity to hop onto other projects within Bioware is still there...

 

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Like rats from a sinking ship.

 

Besides, I like his writing and he is wasted on this game, better his talents put to use on a proper game.


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But as a writer, even with story DLC incoming would his primary role not already be done?


He'll probably still be around for the DLCs

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Sure, that is also true...in which case it would have made moe sense to me that he's leave at the end of the DAI project when they are done with any story DLC or expansion and start working on the next major title in the series.


Except that now could well be the time in the new project when the world-building and primary story arc writing need to get off the ground, and David Gaider has experience in these areas since this is what he did for DA. It makes no sense to have him/the new project wait around for a year until the dlc cycle is done, especially since for all we know the overall story of the dlc may already be in place.

As far as 'rats deserting a sinking ship' goes, EA is hardly likely to waste the talents of one of Bioware's best writers (Patrick Weekes) on a dying franchise when he could just as easily be put to good use on the new IP or the next Mass Effect. There would be no common sense to such a decision.
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Except that now could well be the time in the new project when the world-building and primary story arc writing need to get off the ground, and David Gaider has experience in these areas since this is what he did for DA. It makes no sense to have him/the new project wait around for a year until the dlc cycle is done, especially since for all we know the overall story of the dlc may already be in place.

As far as 'rats deserting a sinking ship' goes, EA is hardly likely to waste the talents of one of Bioware's best writers (Patrick Weekes) on a dying franchise when he could just as easily be put to good use on the new IP or the next Mass Effect. There would be no common sense to such a decision.

 

Fair enough.

I never proclaimed my opinion as law, so if I am wrong, that is good. 

 

I guess we'll see what happens to Dragon Age in the months and years to come...


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Not sure how to feel about this because his writing went downhill since Origins but I owe him my thanks for his work in Origins especially for writing the best character of all time, Morrigan.


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Funny how he decides to leave just after the most successful DA launch....makes you wonder, doesn't it...
 
Successful launch for EA, yes. They managed to market the game in a way to boost sales.
But why would someone leave a franchise at the top of its game after so many years of hard work? 
 
Maybe things with the franchise is not quite as it appears and Gaider made a wise choice to get out while the opportunity to hop onto other projects within Bioware is still there...


So after all this time, this is all you've got left?

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After 10 years it's understandable that he wants a change. I think this is good all-around, working with a new project will probably give him some new inspiration, and I think a new lead writer will bring some new ideas to the da franchise (even though Patrick has been working on it before). I'm sure Weekes will do a great job as lead, and Gaider will still be at BW, so I'm looking forward to his next project.


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#263
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So after all this time, this is all you've got left?

 

What?



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But why would someone leave a franchise at the top of its game after so many years of hard work? 
 


After ten years working on the same project I would welcome any opportunity to get my brain running on a new project.

I think people are reading way to much into this. To some it's as if Gaider had rage quit Dragon age because "reasons", to me this seem to be nothing but a healthy career move (no matter how disapointed I am by DAI).
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Understandable why he left working on the same series for 10 years can getting boring he wants a new challenge.



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What?


He means you're breaking out the tin-foil hat.
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personally, I've really enjoyed the series and want to thank him for the experience and all of his hard work



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haha, my oh my. Ive been wishing for ages that weekes was the lead writer/had more influence  :lol:   Now i visit the forums to find this piece of news. At the end of the day however it is too little and too late, it isnt just the lead writer that needs the boot its some of the lead devs.

Weekes is their best writer atm, i think people should be grateful, if anything.

And of course "something happened"- A lot of shady  wonderful things have been "happening" at EAware/EA lately. Entire sections of employees being laid of, in where was it? vancouver, key staff leaving or being reassigned to other projects, game ips being cancelled etc etc. Its a result of their massive success ^^



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Consider the character development of Mordin and Miranda. I think Weekes has a rather conventional outlook when it comes to morality. This works well for characters like Cole (while it didn't for Mordin and Miranda), and I think Weekes has a gift for writing characters with a degree of "otherness", but I don't think we'll see controversial ethical viewpoints given their due with him, and I don't think we'll see a return to the darker tone of the previous games. 

 

Will Tevinter lose its status as the Evil Empire, which is only fit to be fought, and never admired for anything it ever did, regardless of whether it was admirable from a reasonable viewpoint, just because it was associated with evil? IMO the chances of that have just taken a downturn.

youre kidding right? Mordin and Miranda are actually some of the most nuanced characters in the me universe. Both are troubled but very gifted individuals who actually want to do the best for others, but end up making really bad decisions because of it, which they are conflicted about. Its bittersweet seeing them trying to convince themselves that they made the right choices even though its obvious, when reading between the lines that they didnt. This is especially true for Mordin in regards to the genophage in ME 2. You can tell he doesnt really believe it. That is Weekes strength as a writer, he has a very "between the lines" writing style.

 

i want to add that i dont think the genophage is a bad decision, what i mean is that Mordin himself really thinks so but tries to convince himself otherwise. I personally think the genophage helps the galaxy in the long run, cruel as it might be, but im not going to get into that here.


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youre kidding right? Mordin and Miranda are actually some of the most nuanced characters in the me universe. Both are troubled but very gifted individuals who actually want to do the best for others, but end up making really bad decisions because of it, which they are conflicted about. Its bittersweet seeing them trying to convince themselves that they made the right choices even though its obvious, when reading between the lines that they didnt. This is especially true for Mordin in regards to the genophage in ME 2. You can tell he doesnt really believe it. That is Weekes strength as a writer, he has a very "between the lines" writing style.

 

i want to add that i dont think the genophage is a bad decision, what i mean is that Mordin himself really thinks so but tries to convince himself otherwise. I personally think the genophage helps the galaxy in the long run, cruel as it might be, but im not going to get into that here.

Miranda the most nuanced character? You mean that ice queen in a cat-suit, whoes psychology revolves around daddy issues? XD lol



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Ah, man. That means the next IP will probably have the same black and white handling of issues within the world being presented.

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 A lot of shady  wonderful things have been "happening" at EAware/EA lately. Entire sections of employees being laid of, in where was it? vancouver, key staff leaving or being reassigned to other projects, game ips being cancelled etc etc. Its a result of their massive success ^^

That is a bit too far. Someone getting let off isn't a wonderful thing it's a crappy thing and you should feel ashamed for saying that.

 

Plus David just switched to the new IP because he wanted to do something else.


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That is a bit too far. Someone getting let off isn't a wonderful thing it's a crappy thing and you should feel ashamed for saying that.

 

Plus David just switched to the new IP because he wanted to do something else.

 

Let the vultures believe what they want, they're the ones that will continue to be disappointed in the end regardless.



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Ah, man. That means the next IP will probably have the same black and white handling of issues within the world being presented.


If you thought the issues of Dragon Age were black and white what the hell do you think is grey?

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Sad it see Gaider go, I really enjoyed his writing and his presence on the forums. That said I can understand why after 10 years he might want a change.

 

It is nice to change things up in your career and focus on something different. It's good that he is still with BioWare. 

 

I'm now more interesting in what this new IP will be like though, I hadn't really thought about it since they mentioned it last year.

 

Looking forward to seeing what Patrick Weeks can bring as head writer, I've enjoyed his writing in the past and it will be nice to see what another Lead Writer can do for the franchise.

 

Patrick is a good choice to succeed David.


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