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Wtf, conrad verner bug? *potential spoilers*


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#26
Dethateer

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Thank you for reading the thread. O, wait.

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SithLordExarKun

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DarthCaine wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

They kept rambling about how treating conrad would carry over to the next game, and now they dropped the ball on this one as well.

They also said that your ME1 will actually make an impact in ME2

And for ME1 they said there'll be a customizable MAKO, an interrupt system, destructible environment, that you could leave your armor covered with blood, that each world will be big as Morrowind and long as a KOTOR world and that you could change the appearance of your weapons

Conclusion?

False advertising it seems.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

They kept rambling about how treating conrad would carry over to the next game, and now they dropped the ball on this one as well.

They also said that your ME1 will actually make an impact in ME2

And for ME1 they said there'll be a customizable MAKO, an interrupt system, destructible environment, that you could leave your armor covered with blood, that each world will be big as Morrowind and long as a KOTOR world and that you could change the appearance of your weapons

Conclusion?

False advertising it seems.


Not likely.  Internal miscommunication, or design ideas that didn't work seem more likely,

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also, christina called him "commander verner" or some other bioware rep did, can a dev overhere answer this for us? I'd just like to know why I have no commander verner.... and officially why, no theories please.

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Inarai wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

And
for ME1 they said there'll be a customizable MAKO, an interrupt system,
destructible environment, that you could leave your armor covered with
blood, that each world will be big as Morrowind and long as a KOTOR
world and that you could change the appearance of your weapons

Conclusion?

False advertising it seems.


Not likely.  Internal miscommunication, or design ideas that didn't work seem more likely,


Here:


Modifié par DarthCaine, 18 février 2010 - 05:14 .


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They missed a golden comedy opportunity there. If you went Paragon with him, you should run into him and be able to ask what the hell he's doing, and didn't he go home to his wife, etc., at which point he'd get all misty eyed for a moment before saying something like "I did! She wasn't there! I waited a whole week and she never came back! She took the dog too! And then you died, Shepard! You died! And that's when I knew: it was time to start getting EXTREME! A hard universe needs hard men! (mumbling) I really loved that dog.... (wipes away a single tear)"

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There is a paragon Conrad. The correct result of bieng nice to him and telling him to go home should cause Conrad to not even be on illium. You should get an email from him telling you how happy he is that your alive and how he created a charity group called Shepards.

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Jaysonie wrote...

There is a paragon Conrad. The correct result of bieng nice to him and telling him to go home should cause Conrad to not even be on illium. You should get an email from him telling you how happy he is that your alive and how he created a charity group called Shepards.



And you know this how?

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didymos1120 wrote...

Jaysonie wrote...

There is a paragon Conrad. The correct result of bieng nice to him and telling him to go home should cause Conrad to not even be on illium. You should get an email from him telling you how happy he is that your alive and how he created a charity group called Shepards.



And you know this how?


Its in the game files.

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Hmm, interesting. In that case, I actually kind of like the glitch because it's far more amusing to run into him playing at intergalactic badass. They should have just altered the one line to explain why your Paragon efforts came to naught.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Hmm, interesting. In that case, I actually kind of like the glitch because it's far more amusing to run into him playing at intergalactic badass. They should have just altered the one line to explain why your Paragon efforts came to naught.


Im also guessing the news about conrad on illium about his charity is also actually caused by bieng nice to him during the first game. Atleast it makes sense for him to create a charity if you were nice to him during the first game.

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Yeah yeah it's a known issue. NOBODY has ever seen Conrad behave differently in ME2. My guess is that the game reads the ME1 save but has problems accessing the result of the paragon choice. They might patch it...or not....time will tell.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Ok, in my ME1 playthrough, i was nice to conrad and chose the pargon option. Now in me2 when i met him in a place i won't say where to spoil, he is being a huge jackass and claimed i shoved a gun in his face the last time we met.

What gives?? Is this a bug?



I think a great many people have made this mistake - and it is a mistake.  IMO, it's not a bug, folks just aren't paying attention to what Conrad's saying.  Try it again, next time through; and really pay attention:  Conrad just says you did, because it makes him look tough. 

He's showing the frell off!

It's not a bug, it's a deliberate part of the storytelling

Just wanted that off my chest - it just really annoys the hell outta me that so many have seemed to just completely miss it.

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It isn't the only bug. In ME1, the besieged base with the drugged up scientists was recorded as a "bloodbath" even when you kept all the scientists alive; and in ME2 you get a news report saying the Sirta Foundation never recovered from that attack.

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My brother actually stuck a gun in Conrad's face in ME1, and he didn't even meet him on Illium in ME2.

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What pisses me off is I hate the conrad character and to tie that character to a vendor discount is lame. Especially a vendor that carries the largest portion of upgrades.




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JakeMacDon wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Ok, in my ME1 playthrough, i was nice to conrad and chose the pargon option. Now in me2 when i met him in a place i won't say where to spoil, he is being a huge jackass and claimed i shoved a gun in his face the last time we met.

What gives?? Is this a bug?



I think a great many people have made this mistake - and it is a mistake.  IMO, it's not a bug, folks just aren't paying attention to what Conrad's saying.  Try it again, next time through; and really pay attention:  Conrad just says you did, because it makes him look tough. 

He's showing the frell off!

It's not a bug, it's a deliberate part of the storytelling

Just wanted that off my chest - it just really annoys the hell outta me that so many have seemed to just completely miss it.

You would only be right if there wasn't already a Paragon "interaction" with Conrad in the game files, that doesn't properly activate even if you treated him nicely in ME1. It's similar to a lot of the other carry-overs, where ME1 characters send you an e-mail thanking you for whatever you did for them.

So shut up already.

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I am glad this was mentioned. Originally when I played through with my paragon character I thought that I just accidentally saved it wrong (since I would replay conversations to see some of the variations). Then, I did a pure paragon with a new Shepard and specifically was ALWAYS nice to Conrad. He still said that I was a "big jerk" to everyone and shoved the gun in his face. *sigh*



I guess I'm glad he came to Illium though, I really wanted that discount. I just wish there was a Paragon reason for him to come to Illium. For example, what Didymos said.

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I'm just curious if anybody remembers that when you're totally paragon to Conrad in ME1, you pose for a photo with your gun extended. Considering that Conrad is a little... fuzzy in the head, he might just be remembering that whole interaction wrong for the purpose of his new-found badassery.

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stanj wrote...

I'm just curious if anybody remembers that when you're totally paragon to Conrad in ME1, you pose for a photo with your gun extended. Considering that Conrad is a little... fuzzy in the head, he might just be remembering that whole interaction wrong for the purpose of his new-found badassery.


No, it's a ****ing glitch, plain and simple.