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[katamuro]

After ME3's endings and EC, I seriously doubt that.

 

Yeah exactly plus burying their heads in the sand and just pretending nothing is wrong is far worse than admitting they have been wrong.

[goishen]

Gamble said no canon ending.

Lack of specifics is a form of hand waving. Trivializing our choices. Gamble said they take player choice seriously. It would be better to not mention the trilogy with current endings at all then to attempt to try to explain or justify them again. And that's what they will have to do if MENext is a sequel.

 

 

Ugh.   Please.  Just because the game ended on a sour note for you doesn't trivialize our choices.  Just because ME:N doesn't start with how the last game ended does not trivialize our choices. 

 

Shepard's tale is over, it's done.  I'm happy with it, and all the choices that I could make I've made.

 

Now, will you people please, please, please stop saying that this trivializes our choices?   It does not.  Because we're gonna have new choices to make in the next game. 

[katamuro]

Ugh.   Please.  Just because the game ended on a sour note for you doesn't trivialize our choices.  Just because ME:N doesn't start with how the last game ended does not trivialize our choices. 

 

Shepard's tale is over, it's done.  I'm happy with it, and all the choices that I could make I've made.

 

Now, will you people please, please, please stop saying that this trivializes our choices?   It does not.  Because we're gonna have new choices to make in the next game. 

 

The problem is not that the Shepards story is done. Its completely fine that his story is done. The problem is that its done in such a fundamental way that it affects everything after that quite strongly. It would be like ending halo game with the option to release the flood combining it with everyone making everyone half flood hybrids, or a choice of controlling the flood, or destroying the flood but only if you kill a whole planet including some of your best friends. 

and while the choices that are given have such a huge impact on everything after them the endings barely mentions any of the issues. Even EC, they are basically the same slideshow 3 times but with slightly different slides in them in places. That trivialised our choices. The fact that no matter what you do during the game, if you are at least half-competent and played some multiplayer then you get exactly the same treatment. The only difference between doing 100% and doing just enough is basically how much of the game you have played. It has no change on the ending. 

[The Arbiter]

I would be glad to move on if any of the hardcore Bioware indoctrinated individuals here admit that the next Mass Effect is a Reboot/Restart

[katamuro]

I would be glad to move on if any of the hardcore Bioware indoctrinated individuals here admit that the next Mass Effect is a Reboot/Restart

 

Well it might not, they might go temporarily insane again and do an alternate universe, or just move on without saying anything. All we know now is that the game is on the way

[Han Shot First]

I would be glad to move on if any of the hardcore Bioware indoctrinated individuals here admit that the next Mass Effect is a Reboot/Restart

 

How can anyone admit anything when we know next to nothing about the plot of ME:Next? All we have is speculation. 

 

If you are referring to the Ark Theory...that wouldn't be a reboot. It's a misuse of the definition of a reboot. A reboot is when a series discards previous canon by starting at some earlier point in the timeline, and changing the previously canon chain of events. The Star Trek reboot is a good example of that. It completely alters the chain of events that occurred in the movies with the original cast. The Ark Theory doesn't do that, it just sets the game outside of the setting of the Shepard trilogy. The events of the Shepard trilogy however, are still canon.

[Balsam Beige]

After ME3's endings and EC, I seriously doubt that.

Agreed. And it will be proven that they do not take our choices seriously if, in MENext, they do a sequel and write some stupid hand wave explanation of the four ending choices blending into one world state.

Better off to just ignore Shepard's story completely. It is complete. Everybody made their ending choice. Canon is secure. Now, make a new Mass Effect story with new possibilities and no hindrances.

[Andrew Lucas]

It's fine to move on from Shepard's storyline, the universe is not only about him, but I just don't want the next game to ignore completely what was done before, they don't need to have a monumental impact.

No to reboot or anything like it, the story needs to move forward and not backwards.

[ZipZap2000]

If they do, I can't wait to hear it.

Agreed.

[Iakus]

It's fine to move on from Shepard's storyline, the universe is not only about him, but I just don't want the next game to ignore completely what was done before, they don't need to have a monumental impact.

No to reboot or anything like it, the story needs to move forward and not backwards.

Rearranging the DNA of the galaxy, synthetic holocaust, or having Reapers photobomb the galaxy do tend to have monumental impacts...

[Andrew Lucas]

Rearranging the DNA of the galaxy, synthetic holocaust, or having Reapers photobomb the galaxy do tend to have monumental impacts...

You don't say? We're talking on a technical way here. If the ending's impact needs to be reduced so that it can be incorporated in the next game, so be it.

[Iakus]

You don't say? We're talking on a technical way here. If the ending's impact needs to be reduced so that it can be incorporated in the next game, so be it.

Reduced, or trivialized to the point where it doesn't matter anyway?

[Andrew Lucas]

Reduced, or trivialized to the point where it doesn't matter anyway?

Like with the past three games? I don't see a problem, better than nothing.

[shepskisaac]

You don't say? We're talking on a technical way here. If the ending's impact needs to be reduced so that it can be incorporated in the next game, so be it.

It's impossible to reduce impact of some of the choices we can make in ME3. You can have EVERY organic be a synthetic hybrid, that's 1. Multiple races can be extinct. And that's excluding Refuse ending where... everyone from this cycle is dead lol

 

 

 

Like with the past three games? I don't see a problem, better than nothing.

There's a big difference between having Grunt dead and every Krogan dead. Or Miranda alive and everyone and Miranda being synthetic hybrid. Biggest ME3 choices are impossible to dismiss

[Andrew Lucas]

It's impossible to reduce impact of some of the choices we can make in ME3. You can have EVERY organic be a synthetic hybrid, that's 1. Multiple races can be extinct. And that's excluding Refuse ending where... everyone from this cycle is dead lol

I don't think that it's impossible, we'll find out the day it releases or months before.

Refuse? That's like ME2's ending where Shepard dies, so nay.

[Iakus]

Like with the past three games? I don't see a problem, better than nothing.

 

The choices literally change the galaxy!  They couldn't handle who I named as the human representative on the Council! 

[Andrew Lucas]

The choices literally change the galaxy!  They couldn't handle who I named as the human representative on the Council!

Um... looks that you got the point then. Cheers.

[shepskisaac]

Um... looks that you got the point then. Cheers.

Ignoring choices is different than not-ignoring with small impact. With some of the ME3 choices, it's either former or devoting massive resources to respect the choices, no in-between.

[Iakus]

Um... looks that you got the point then. Cheers.

And my point is if they can't handle factoring in a choice as comparatively minor as that, how are they going to factor in all the possible permutations of the galactic end state from ME3?  One where everyone'sd DNA has been rewritten, to Reapers watching over the galaxy/leading the galaxy to war, to no galactic AI extermination, to the relay network blowing up, to having three or more major species going extinct?

[Mcfly616]

 The people act sort of borgish. 

 Or not...

[Andrew Lucas]

Ignoring choices is different than not-ignoring with small impact. With some of the ME3 choices, it's either former or devoting massive resources to respect the choices, no in-between.

If chosen, Anderson was councilor until ME3 came out, seems like he did his job in ME2 at least for me, so the choice wasn't ignored, it wasn't due to technical reasons but how the script turned out. That's not what I'm talking about, I believe that the ending's impact can be reduced so that it can be incorporated in the next game, if they want to, was done before but not in the same level, but then again, people are going to complain regardless if they reduce or don't even include it lol.

[shepskisaac]

I believe that the ending's impact can be reduced

How? By saying that "synthesis wore off"? That basically equals to ignoring choices.

[Mcfly616]

How? By saying that "synthesis wore off"? That basically equals to ignoring choices.

No. By trivializing them and making their effect a cosmetic/ aesthetic one on the game world.

[Andrew Lucas]

How? By saying that "synthesis wore off"? That basically equals to ignoring choices.

Well, that's not my job lol. Ask Mac Walters.

No. By trivializing them and making their effect a cosmetic/ aesthetic one on the game world.