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[TMA LIVE]

Why would Shepard turned Catalyst tell the guy anything and why would the catalyst tell the guy anything?

 

So people know the Reapers aren't gonna kill anyone because Shepard a) Sprayed the Galaxy with his DNA or Is the AI, so here's the story.

[themikefest]

So people know the Reapers aren't gonna kill anyone because Shepard a) Sprayed the Galaxy with his DNA or Is the AI, so here's the story.

So how did the Shepard turned catalyst convince folks that its toys won't harm them? Why would they believe what the catalyst say about Shepard's dna being spread all over the place? 

[TMA LIVE]

So how did the Shepard turned catalyst convince folks that its toys won't harm them? Why would they believe what the catalyst say about Shepard's dna being spread all over the place? 

 

Because why else are the Reapers stopping their attack, and rebuilding society, and also why you now glow in the dark?

[TMA LIVE]

Liara sends Conrad Verner's  mind back in time to prevent Shepard from dooming the Galaxy with the Crucible.

 

Would play

 

I even have the story figured out:

 

Years into the future, because of the effects of the Crucible, Dark Energy and Dark Matter are now an unstoppable threat to the Galaxy, pushing every cluster closer together, causing their suns to burn everything out. In order to stop this, a new hero must be sent back in time to stop the crucible from being used, and also find an alternative to stopping the Reapers. The problem is, the new hero will suffer memory lose during the trip back in time. Will he/she be able to accomplish the mission if they can't even remember it? Find out, in the "new" Mass Effect trilogy!

[themikefest]

Because why else are the Reapers stopping their attack, and rebuilding society, and also why you now glow in the dark?

Because they stop and rebuild doesn't mean they won't fire their laser again Just because you can glow doesn't mean Shepard had anything to do with it. Why would I believe  his/her dna is spread across the galaxy? 

[The Arbiter]

Who said anything about Reapers? Nobody. Shepard is the only entity that came up. Secondly, I specifically said "the same fictional setting". Which would mean the Milky Way. You're the only one bringing up a new galaxy. I also never mentioned a sequel. Neither has Bioware. The Krogan in the demo could be on some rock in our galaxy before ME1, or concurrently with the 2 years Shepard spent dead. Or it could be after ME3. The timeline of the next game is anybody's guess. No evidence leaning one way or the other.

 

Hard on myself?   Maybe you should look in the mirror and tell yourself that. You're the one that believes anything not involving Shepard is a "reboot".

Me bringing up a new galaxy? my head is a galaxy no... a UNIVERSE itself. Bioware is the one with all the reports coming out who stated that the next game is a complete new GALAXY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD with the "COOL NEW IDEA TO MOVE THE FRANCHISE FORWARD" do I have to spoon feed you? and now you are denying everything attempting to cover up and save Bioware's arse your stance. THE NEXT GAME IS SET IN AN ENTIRE NEW GALAXY NO CONNECTION TO SHEPARD WHATSOEVER so stop using the "what time line it is set" argument it is irrelevant because it is SET INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE TRIOLOGY sheesh, and no I don't give a rat's arse about what they do next

[Mcfly616]

Me bringing up a new galaxy? my head is a galaxy no... a UNIVERSE itself. Bioware is the one with all the reports coming out who stated that the next game is a complete new GALAXY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD with the "COOL NEW IDEA TO MOVE THE FRANCHISE FORWARD" do I have to spoon feed you? and now you are denying everything attempting to cover up and save Bioware's arse your stance. THE NEXT GAME IS SET IN AN ENTIRE NEW GALAXY NO CONNECTION TO SHEPARD WHATSOEVER so stop using the "what time line it is set" argument it is irrelevant because it is SET INDEPENDENTLY FROM THE TRIOLOGY sheesh, and no I don't give a rat's arse about what they do next

 Actually, the babbling quoted above is what's  irrelevant. Bioware has never said it takes place in a "new galaxy". Not a single time.

 

 

And I challenge you to find a direct quote that states otherwise. Good luck. You won't find one. 

 

 

Clearly you need to spoon feed yourself some legitimate information instead of your own delusions. Come back when you know your facts. You're going to continue to make yourself look foolish otherwise.

[The Arbiter]

 Actually, the babbling quoted above is what's  irrelevant. Bioware has never said it takes place in a "new galaxy". Not a single time.

 

 

And I challenge you to find a direct quote that states otherwise. Good luck. You won't find one. 

 

 

Clearly you need to spoon feed yourself some legitimate information instead of your own delusions. Come back when you know your facts. You're going to continue to make yourself look foolish otherwise.

 

AHA SO SEQUEL THEN! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I KNEW IT that you too do not like a reboot/ restart thank you for disproving my independent reboot/restart theory hahaha it would be too painful to abandon the Triology now won't it? OR A NEW MASS EFFECT IN A NEW GALAXY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT no connection whatsoever atleast I am not the only one worried. This can only mean one thing... the game is set after the reaper war because how can you connect "past adventures" if such "adventures by Shepard had always something to do with the reapers" if it weren't for the Reapers Shepard would never meet his destiny of becoming a hero.Certainly if the next game is set in the same timeline of the reaper attacks... it won't make sense because you are dealing with the reaper threat... the game is most likely set in the future.I would miss old squad mates though.

 

The execution of the beginning of ME4 would worry me though.

[Iakus]

I even have the story figured out:

 

Years into the future, because of the effects of the Crucible, Dark Energy and Dark Matter are now an unstoppable threat to the Galaxy, pushing every cluster closer together, causing their suns to burn everything out. In order to stop this, a new hero must be sent back in time to stop the crucible from being used, and also find an alternative to stopping the Reapers. The problem is, the new hero will suffer memory lose during the trip back in time. Will he/she be able to accomplish the mission if they can't even remember it? Find out, in the "new" Mass Effect trilogy!

"Sorry if I said you pointed a gun at me when you didn't.  I was under a lot of stress"

[Mcfly616]

AHA SO SEQUEL THEN! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I KNEW IT that you too do not like a reboot/ restart thank you for disproving my independent reboot/restart theory hahaha it would be too painful to abandon the Triology now won't it? OR A NEW MASS EFFECT IN A NEW GALAXY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT no connection whatsoever atleast I am not the only one worried.

 

 No idea what you're going on about. Still waiting for you to list that source/quote from Bioware that stated it was taking place in a "new galaxy". Though, I could wait forever because there is no such source/quote that has stated any such thing.

 

 

 

"whole new region of space" =/= a new galaxy. The Milky Way is a big place. Plenty of it we haven't explored.

[The Arbiter]

 No idea what you're going on about. Still waiting for you to list that source/quote from Bioware that stated it was taking place in a "new galaxy". Though, I could wait forever because there is no such source/quote that has stated any such thing.

 

 

 

"whole new region of space" =/= a new galaxy. The Milky Way is a big place. Plenty of it we haven't explored.

Still a Sequel also read after "new region of space" it states PROBABLY "new galaxy" but won't you want that? exploration? I know you want too. As long as it is a sequel I can rest easy... but the beginning though...

[Iakus]

Also keep in mind that the space hamster is a "nod" to the Baldur's Gate games.

[Mcfly616]

Still a Sequel also read after "new region of space" it states PROBABLY "new galaxy" but won't you want that? exploration? I know you want too. As long as it is a sequel I can rest easy... but the beginning though...

 actually, after "new region of space", the article clearly states "prompting   some to suggest it would be set in a whole new galaxy". Meaning people such as yourself, speculating on the possibilities. 

 

 

 

 

Also, giving nods to fans of the past trilogy and past adventures, doesn't necessarily confirm a sequel either. It just means that we'll find something familiar to us in the next game, not that the next game takes place after said adventures. It's clear they are speaking of the players past experiences. Not necessarily the past of the fictional setting. For example, a side-quel can easily give nods to our past experiences in the Shepard trilogy.

 

 

Yes, I would also like to further explore the MEU with more freedom than ever before. However, the timeline doesn't affect my interest in journeying through the cosmos.

[katamuro]

 actually, after "new region of space", the article clearly states "prompting   some to suggest it would be set in a whole new galaxy". Meaning people such as yourself, speculating on the possibilities. 

 

 

 

 

Also, giving nods to fans of the past trilogy and past adventures, doesn't necessarily confirm a sequel either. It just means that we'll find something familiar to us in the next game, not that the next game takes place after said adventures. It's clear they are speaking of the players past experiences. Not necessarily the past of the fictional setting. For example, a side-quel can easily give nods to our past experiences in the Shepard trilogy.

 

 

Yes, I would also like to further explore the MEU with more freedom than ever before. However, the timeline doesn't affect my interest in journeying through the cosmos.

 

My interest in MEU however is tied to the continuity of the timeline. I might play the game still but I wont be able to enjoy it as much. And I would be very disappointed anyway if they decide to run and hide from what they did with their own hands.

[Tython]

Drone- I didn't say it was a bad game. I said it was a bad ending(s) which tends to ruin overall replay ability and experience.

 

Most people liked the journey but hated how it ended leaving a very sour taste. I could post plenty of links to the top 10 worst endings to a video game and ME3 would be on every one...

[Drone223]

I said it was a bad ending(s) which tends to ruin overall replay ability and experience.

Yet despite people's views on the endings ME3 won numerous awards from both critics and users, my point was that if the endings made most people lose interest in the franchise then Bioware wouldn't be making a new ME game or release new content for it they would've just cut their loses. But seeing as how despite people's issue's with the endings there is still a lot of interest in the franchise and therefore

 

That being said while plenty of people don't like the endings the majority are most likely indifferent about them.

[Han Shot First]

Most people who played Mass Effect 3 probably haven't given it much thought at all in the last 2 or 3 years. Official forums for video game developers really only represent the most hardcore fans, and skew more towards PC gamers at that, who are always only a very tiny minority of the total people who purchase those games. The reality is that most people immediately moved on to other games and stopped giving much thought to ME, regardless of whether or not they liked the endings.

 

I seriously doubt the ending controversy of Mass Effect 3 will in any way impact Bioware's bottom line. If the next ME game is a good game, it will sell. If it isn't, it won't. The game will either succeed or flop on it's own merits, not from the leftover baggage of a previous game. Anyone so frustrated with the finale of ME3 that they'll never purchase another ME game is likely to be so small a slice of the total purchases of ME3 that they are completely inconsequential. In fact many people who purchase ME:Next, will probably have never even played a prior Mass Effect game. 

[wolfhowwl]

My interest in MEU however is tied to the continuity of the timeline. I might play the game still but I wont be able to enjoy it as much. And I would be very disappointed anyway if they decide to run and hide from what they did with their own hands.

 

The series has also been handed off to a new team. It would be nice to see them take things in their own direction in the future instead of having to tap-dance around to preserve the folly of a few people at BioWare Edmonton.

[Drone223]

Most people who played Mass Effect 3 probably haven't given it much thought at all in the last 2 or 3 years. Official forums for video game developers really only represent the most hardcore fans, and skew more towards PC gamers at that, who are always only a very tiny minority of the total people who purchase those games. The reality is that most people immediately moved on to other games and stopped giving much thought to ME, regardless of whether or not they liked the endings.

 

I seriously doubt the ending controversy of Mass Effect 3 will in any way impact Bioware's bottom line. If the next ME game is a good game, it will sell. If it isn't, it won't. The game will either succeed or flop on it;s own merits, not the baggage from a previous game. Anyone so frustrated with the finale of ME3 that they'll never purchase another ME game is likely to be so small a slice of the total purchases of ME3 that they are completely inconsequential. In fact many people who purchase ME:Next, will probably have never even played a prior Mass Effect game. 

Pretty much, most people have moved on long ago. With that in mind Bioware will continue to make more ME games as long as there is enough interest in the franchise, if there isn't enough interest they won't continue.

[katamuro]

The series has also been handed off to a new team. It would be nice to see them take things in their own direction in the future instead of having to tap-dance around to preserve the folly of a few people at BioWare Edmonton.

 

While I also would like them to just get it over with and move on, I do not want them to hit a reset button in any way(that means reboots, alternative universes, sidequels that are "off the grid", time travel or anything else that wipes the slate clean and ignores the previous games)

 

Pretty much, most people have moved on long ago. With that in mind Bioware will continue to make more ME games as long as there is enough interest in the franchise, if there isn't enough interest they won't continue.

I think that the interest that is still there is a testament of how good they have done up to that point, that even the obvious deficiencies of the endings did not do enough damage for people to walk away from it. But there are also plenty of people who simply were not that invested into the game, it was interesting for them but it was something that they enjoyed on the side apart from their favourite game/universe. 

 

For example there are star trek/star wars/halo fans out there who enjoyed the ME games but for them it was just that, a good game outside of their favourite tv show/book/game. For me it along with B5 are my favourite of all time. Which is why I care so much for ME universe. It might not be exactly healthy but I had invested a lot of emotions into the games, a lot of thoughts into the universe. Every first time I played ME1, ME2, ME3 I lived by them, in those couple of days it took me to finish each one I thought of them constantly, even dreamed of them. So yeah I am not "over" the whole thing, not until they at least attempt at making it right. I do not expect anyone to really understand how I feel but at least understand that while it might seem trivial to you, to me it is important that they continue the already set timeline. 

[TMA LIVE]

Because they stop and rebuild doesn't mean they won't fire their laser again Just because you can glow doesn't mean Shepard had anything to do with it. Why would I believe  his/her dna is spread across the galaxy? 

 

The same reason we stop killing any enemy in current or past wars that stop their battle, and offer surrender or peace. And like I said, the Reapers told the truth during the peace. That's how Grandpa knows. After all, why would people not believe the Reapers, and yet allow them to work with them?

[themikefest]

The same reason we stop killing any enemy in current or past wars that stop their battle, and offer surrender or peace.

Who is we?

 

And like I said, the Reapers told the truth during the peace.

So there was a peace conference with all the reapers and galaxy together discussing peace? What happened to the people who didn't believe them?

 

That's how Grandpa knows.

Is there anything that says he's a Granpa? 
 

After all, why would people not believe the Reapers,

Why would I believe anything the reapers say if they killed my family and friends? Would you believe them?
 

and yet allow them to work with them?

Why would I want to work with them?

[katamuro]

Yeah the morality of letting Reapers live is complicated. There is absolutely no proof, at least not 100% that in some time they won't start doing the same thing again. And after such a war full of atrocities how do you even let reapers go without consequences, after all apart from Shepard no one really knows that they were controlled. You can't really put them on trial either for all those millions turned into various types of husks. 

What do you do with a 2km mass murderer which itself was constructed from millions of people and who suddenly says that it is good and cuddly and is going to help you rebuild? One thing for sure is that you don't let them roam free in your population centres just because they say they are good. 

[TMA LIVE]

Who is we?

 

Humanity. Not every war ends with all enemy forces dying.

 

 

So there was a peace conference with all the reapers and galaxy together discussing peace? What happened to the people who didn't believe them?

 

Probably. We do see them in peace with the rest of the galaxy, so something did happen. And I choose not to be in denial over what I saw in a cutscene. And the people who didn't believe them, clearly no one cared. They're in denial. After all, the Reapers retreated after being hit by a Green or Blue beam that came from the crucible. So the crucible did do something to them. And this something is stopping them from attacking. So yeah, the beam did make the Reapers either nonthreatening. So why not believe them, when we know the crucible changing them this way is a fact?

 

Why would I believe anything the reapers say if they killed my family and friends? Would you believe them?

 

Well, you did believe them when you picked the Destroy ending despite them killing your family and friends. After all, that choice couldn't just blown you up.

 

 

 

Is there anything that says he's a Granpa?

 

Does it matter? Besides, he's voice by Buzz, so he's clearly old, and calls the kid his sweat. Too old to be the dad. Thus I can make the assumption.

 

 

Why would I want to work with them?

 

 

I don't care if you don't want to work with them. You're not the galaxy. And based on those cutscenes, the galaxy "did".

[themikefest]

Well, you did believe them when you picked the Destroy ending despite them killing your family and friends. After all, that choice couldn't just blown you up.

The difference is that they're destroyed. Gone. Not around anymore. Good riddance.
 

Does it matter? Besides, he's voice by Buzz, so he's clearly old, and calls the kid his sweat. Too old to be the dad.

No it doesn't matter. Why would he be too old to be the father? There are older men that have children at an older age. Is it ever mentioned he's the father or grandfather?
 

I don't care if you don't want to work with them. You're not the galaxy.

What does been the galaxy have to do with me not wanting to work with them?