Apocalyptic trilogies: I really love 'em for their epic scope, but they just don't lend themselves to sequels. If you're going to do one as a writer, make sure it's the last thing you do in that universe. Golden rule right there.
Yeah and screwing the whole universe with that kind of thing especially since humanity only started out to become a galactic power was just so nearsighted I am wondering how they saw the keyboard to type it.
For crying out loud people LET IT GO!It's just an ending. Not that big of a deal. We get it that some of you weren't happy. Stop beating the dead horse.It's just a video game.
For crying out loud people LET IT GO!It's just an ending. Not that big of a deal. We get it that some of you weren't happy. Stop beating the dead horse.It's just a video game.
For crying out loud people LET IT GO!It's just an ending. Not that big of a deal. We get it that some of you weren't happy. Stop beating the dead horse.It's just a video game.
No canon ending doesn't mean there isn't a canon start to ME4 though.
There's a difference between "default" and "canon".
It's also part of the starting point of ME4.
Not necessarily true.
For crying out loud people LET IT GO!It's just an ending. Not that big of a deal. We get it that some of you weren't happy. Stop beating the dead horse.It's just a video game.
But then what would half of the posts be centered on? :\
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You might as well copy and paste that post because you will have to use it multiple times on multiple threads in these forums. We talk about Mass Effect and the trilogy here and the ending controversy is not going away any time soon I'm afraid.
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For crying out loud people LET IT GO!It's just an ending. Not that big of a deal. We get it that some of you weren't happy. Stop beating the dead horse.It's just a video game.
Why post then if you do not want to talk about it in a thread that talks about it? Find it annoying? Go away and dont look at it. No one is forcing you to read this and ignoring something is quite easy. Want to talk about something else? Start your own thread.
Couple ways they can go about ME:N:
1- Another galaxy
2- Time travel
3- Prequel
Those are off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others. The main problem I see is this new game has to accomplish a lot of things at once: repair the damage caused by ME3's horrible endings, reinvigorate the franchise, make people care about a new main character not named Shepard, tell a good story, have a strong supporting cast that's not Garrus, Liara, etc.
That's a pretty tall order and fans want a lot of features on top of all that as well. Bioware did it to themselves by allowing their two main writers (Casey and Marc) to put in an ending to the trilogy without peer review and they will be paying for that failure for many years to come.
Couple ways they can go about ME:N:
1- Another galaxy
2- Time travel
3- Prequel
Those are off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others. The main problem I see is this new game has to accomplish a lot of things at once: repair the damage caused by ME3's horrible endings, reinvigorate the franchise, make people care about a new main character not named Shepard, tell a good story, have a strong supporting cast that's not Garrus, Liara, etc.
That's a pretty tall order and fans want a lot of features on top of all that as well. Bioware did it to themselves by allowing their two main writers (Casey and Marc) to put in an ending to the trilogy without peer review and they will be paying for that failure for many years to come.
all those 3 examples are awful. it would be a disaster
Couple ways they can go about ME:N:
1- Another galaxy
2- Time travel
Those aren't going to happen since they'll just be contrived, not to mention that if most people lost interest in the franchise after ME3 then Bioware wouldn't be making another ME game. But there is still enough people interest in the franchise so a new ME game was bound to happen.
Time travel is only ok if played for laughs. In any other context, it makes no sense.
Contrived? There's no way to make sequel to Mass Effect 3 that wouldn't feel contrived without picking a canon.Those aren't going to happen since they'll just be contrived, not to mention that if most people lost interest in the franchise after ME3 then Bioware wouldn't be making another ME game. But there is still enough people interest in the franchise so a new ME game was bound to happen.
Contrived? There's no way to make sequel to Mass Effect 3 that wouldn't feel contrived without picking a canon.
It'd also be contrived trying to avoid the endings altogether.
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You might as well copy and paste that post because you will have to use it multiple times on multiple threads in these forums. We talk about Mass Effect and the trilogy here and the ending controversy is not going away any time soon I'm afraid.
Don't worry... in due time Bioware will make a forum for the new Mass Effect... and then we'll keep bringing it up anyway >:-D
It'd also be contrived trying to avoid the endings altogether.
Not if it's a reboot.
Not if it's a reboot.
Seeing as how the series isn't even 10 years old, Bioware aren't going down that path anytime soon and its unlikely a reboot will sell well since the there are only three major releases.
There's not too many options for Bioware since they nearly ruined the franchise with their horrible endings. Therein lies the challenge for them. I'm sure they understand they won't make everyone happy whatever direction they choose and the fact that they haven't said anything about it yet makes me worried the direction they did choose is not one I will like.
Contrived, awful, or just plain bad, my options may feel that way but what other options are out there? They already said they are not picking one ending as canon so that leaves some parallel story to the main one, a complete reboot, a prequel, or something far in the future where an event took place that renders the endings moot. Again, there's not a whole lot of options for Bioware here and they know it...
Seeing as how the series isn't even 10 years old, Bioware aren't going down that path anytime soon and its unlikely a reboot will sell well since the there are only three major releases.
It doesn't matter how old the franchise is. Broke is broke.
There's not too many options for Bioware since they nearly ruined the franchise with their horrible endings.
Except this is not the case, if it was then Bioware wouldn't be making a new ME game or release SP DLC for ME3, the fact ME3 got SP DLC and a new upcoming title suggest that people are still interested in the franchise. As long as there is enough people are still interested in the franchise Bioware will continue to make more ME content.
It doesn't matter how old the franchise is. Broke is broke.
Bioware have no intention of rebooting the franchise specially since it means having to rewrite the entire lore to suit the reboot which I don't think there willing to do and the next game will most likely a few mentions about the events of the trilogy. I also doubt they'd want to have people re-resolve plots from the trilogy that have already been resolved e.g. genophage, geth etc. its not good practice to re-resolve plots that have already been resolved.
I have a question about reboots. In my experience, reboots are made for old but successful stories. They are not created after failures. As an example, recent Tomb Raider and Thief games. Both are reboots of very popular and successful franchises.
What you ask now seems like a "fix", which, in my experience, is not a reason for reboot.
They may as well start a new IP instead since it'll have nothing in common with the ME people have come to know and Bioware are clearly not going to rewrite the lore since rewriting the lore is easier said than done and its a lot easier to work with what's already there.Okay, they have lost Patrick Weekes in the writing staff, Mac is no longer a writer and their new lead came in from outside of Bioware... Now is pretty much the perfect time for them to reboot and reestablish the lore under a new creative vision.
A reboot does also not mean a retelling of the same story. It simply means a restart of the IP but with new characters themes and plots.
Most likely a Mass Effect reboot won't even have the Genophage in it as part of its history, it won't have Geth vs Quarians and Shepard would've never existed. That's what I mean by a reboot.
Sorry Drone223, maybe you missed the outcry when ME3 was released but the vast majority of the fans agreed (I think the poll was 91% at the time) the ending was bad. That's a large number to win back. You may think the series is fine and I respect your opinion but a lot of us are hoping they rehabilitate the franchise with this next installment. A good ending to ME3 will never come from Bioware, only modders.
On another note, I read from an E3 article that it is confirmed the new game will be in a new area of space so the "another galaxy" idea seems to be the way they are going. It might be an arc type ship full of the different races in case they lose to the reapers (which if you chose the refuse ending, actually happens). I'm still hoping you can play an alien but they have a human N7 character in the promo.
Sorry Drone223, maybe you missed the outcry when ME3 was released but the vast majority of the fans agreed (I think the poll was 91% at the time) the ending was bad. That's a large number to win back. You may think the series is fine and I respect your opinion but a lot of us are hoping they rehabilitate the franchise with this next installment. A good ending to ME3 will never come from Bioware, only modders.
Seeing as how ME3 managed to end up winning numerous awards from both critics and players including GOTY I'd say plenty of people enjoyed ME3 overall so its by no means a bad game.
http://forum.bioware...lsvoting-links/
Not to mention the Citadel DLC is considered one of the best if not the best DLC in the entire trilogy the fact of the matter is if ME3 was bad game then there would be no SP DLC and no new ME game for that matter, there is still plenty of people who want more Mass effect
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