Are you really that sure that the thread was started by someone that likes Krem, at this point these threads could just as easily have been started by people that know by saying this it's going to start the **** all over again.
Well until someone can read minds I don't think it matters. Not everyone's into making gross assumptions to ignore what people say when you don't like it.
Are you really that sure that the thread was started by someone that likes Krem, at this point these threads could just as easily have been started by people that know by saying this it's going to start the **** all over again.
Nah. Bickering and irrational flamewars are now a staple of BSN. Nearly any topic here can be up for grabs - except for Solas and Curly, maybe.
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Well until someone can read minds I don't think it matters. Not everyone's into making gross assumptions to ignore what people say when you don't like it.
No problem, continue on with the hate then
You have no idea what that word means apparently.
You have no idea what that word means apparently.
I'd like this comment if I could, so I'll just +1 it.
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Nah. Bickering and irrational flamewars are now a staple of BSN. Nearly any topic here can be up for grabs - except for Solas and Curly, maybe.
Who is curly?
I wonder if Viddath-bas are ever used for breeding or "popping one's cork".
...Eh. Probably not.
Who is curly?
That's what Varric calls Cullen, who apparently enjoys combing his hair.
Because they're interesting, though Harding gets attention in part just because the Inquisitor can flirt with her. Krem isn't very prominent aside from bantering with Bull in which he's usually standing in for the Chargers as a whole, I'd argue that he's even more a side character than any of those you mentioned.
Again that's your opinion on what is intresting. All people might not share it. Even if Krem wasn't trans and had trouble with Tevinter cause of another reason, I'd still be intrested about him, since I think he's cool guy and I like his interaction with Bull.
Gendered nouns and pronouns are the bane of language. Arbitrary grammatical gender/noun class is stupid. Case would more than suffice and is easier to handle as language evolves.
You're going to have to excuse me. This is going to be disjointed and not at all elegant. I'm at work and don't have the time to write a ten page post on applied sociolinguistics. I'm reasonably sure that neither you nor anyone else on BSN wants to read one.Why is that, exactly?
That sounds like a lot of convolution to avoid referring to a female as a female and a male as a male. What's arbitrary about referring to a man as he, it's called being specific so people can better know who and what you are talking about.
I don't think she's typical though. She didn't seem all that impressed or buddy buddy with her peers (in the comics). Seemed a little more independent.
Not being buddy buddy with the other magisters is typical of them. Tevinter has been shown to be a Social Darwinistic culture, so you wouldn't want to get too close with people who you may have to step on or that may step on you.
Hanako doesn't seem like anyone who's not entirely squeaky clean and spotless, so it's probably no going to matter very much.
Not true. There are several characters I love who are not squeaky clean and spotless. But I don't like people who own slaves and are perfectly fine with others doing blood sacrifices, if not possibly having done some herself.
The consent exists in submission to the Qun in general. It's a philosophy which outright rejections free will to begin with so by signing up with it people have already consented to the demands of the Qun whatever they may be.
Except most people in the Qun don't join but are born into it, thus having no choice in whether they want it or not.
Sex isn't all the Tamassrans do and they're the ones who decide what the people that consult them need. They raise the children and educate them, name them, care for the disabled, and control the Qunari's mating process.
They're not sex slaves. But don't let the lore refute that assumption.
The fact they do other things does not negate the fact that for potentially their entire life they are subjugated to providing sexual release to others without their consent.
That sounds like a lot of convolution to avoid referring to a female as a female and a male as a male. What's arbitrary about referring to a man as he, it's called being specific so people can better know who and what you are talking about.
Not being buddy buddy with the other magisters is typical of them. Tevinter has been shown to be a Social Darwinistic culture, so you wouldn't want to get too close with people who you may have to step on or that may step on you.
Not true. There are several characters I love who are not squeaky clean and spotless. But I don't like people who own slaves and are perfectly fine with others doing blood sacrifices, if not possibly having done some herself.
Except most people in the Qun don't join but are born into it, thus having no choice in whether they want it or not.
The fact they do other things does not negate the fact that for potentially their entire life they are subjugated to providing sexual release to others without their consent.
They choose what those individuals need. The people they help do not choose it for themselves. As has already been said, sex is not all they provide.There's a massive difference here, and it's a shame that you keep purposefully conflating it to fit your argument when it has been demonstrated that sexual gratification isn't their primary purpose.
Calling Krem an amazing character takes it a bit far. What is actually amazing is the bravery and leadership BioWare has shown in including such a character.
That's not to say he wasn't written and acted well. In fact, I didn't even pick up on it. I liked him right away and ran through all his dialogue because of that, but during the reveal scene with Bull and the rest of the Chargers I was... strangely disappointed in myself for being... I guess not as attuned as I thought I was, despite being a member of the community and having some exposure. That's how well the character was done. The game is richer for it, and BioWare continues to be a leader in the field.
They choose what those individuals need. The people they help do not choose it for themselves. As has already been said, sex is not all they provide.There's a massive difference here, and it's a shame that you keep purposefully conflating it to fit your argument when it has been demonstrated that sexual gratification isn't their primary purpose.
Please provide evidence where the Tamassrans choose whether they do sex or not. I know they provide other things, but it sounds like they have to provide what the person needs.
Inquisitor: Qunari don't have sex?
The Iron Bull: Oh, we definitely have sex. There are Tamassrans who pop your cork whenever you need it.
They choose what those individuals need. The people they help do not choose it for themselves. As has already been said, sex is not all they provide.There's a massive difference here, and it's a shame that you keep purposefully conflating it to fit your argument when it has been demonstrated that sexual gratification isn't their primary purpose.
There's also a big difference in how the Qun views sex vs how we view sex. We imbue it with layers of cultural and emotional meaning. The Qun view it like baking, or making a pot, or stabbing someone in the face. It's just something that needs doing. Jane provides armor, Sally provides veggies, Sten provides face stabbings, and Mike provides advice and orgasms. It's all very matter of fact. Mike isn't a slave any more than Jane, Sally, or Sten. He's just a professional providing a service.
Of course, if someone tends to believe that everyone under the Qun is a victim and a slave, then there's not much anyone can say to alter the perception.
There's also a big difference in how the Qun views sex vs how we view sex. We imbue it with layers of cultural and emotional meaning. The Qun view it like baking, or making a pot, or stabbing someone in the face. It's just something that needs doing. Jane provides armor, Sally provides veggies, Sten provides face stabbings, and Mike provides advice and orgasms. It's all very matter of fact. Mike isn't a slave any more than Jane, Sally, or Sten. He's just a professional providing a service.
Of course, if someone tends to believe that everyone under the Qun is a victim and a slave, then there's not much anyone can say to alter the perception.
You've said what I've been trying to say, although more eloquently.
Of course. The infamous colonelkillabee chimes in. Because this needed someone who argues just for the sake of arguing and getting a rise out of people, and who will keep arguing long past the point were the other person stops bothering just to say he's won. I'll break my rule of not engaging with you just this once for this one response.
It's not complicated or convoluted. It is, in fact, a lot simpler and more elegant than our current system, with no loss of specificity. Re-read the entire post without your prejudices and preconceived notions, and you'll see that that's really obvious and much more relevant to today's society and to the future.
Now, it's time for me to move to another topic. Laters.
Uh yea I did, because it's a public forum and I can speak my mind just like anyone else does. And I've never tried "winning" a discussion like that, I say my piece, then if people keep rambling on, like you tend to do, I leave it be.
I find referring to a woman as a she and a man as a he much easier than what you just spewed, and it has nothing to do with your imaginary prejudices you and that Danielle person love to accuse others of every time someone disagrees with you.
But sure, if you can't handle someone challenging what you say and expect us to roll over, by all means, see yourself out.
Uh yea I did, because it's a public forum and I can speak my mind just like anyone else does. And I've never tried "winning" a discussion like that, I say my piece, then if people keep rambling on, like you tend to do, I leave it be.
I find referring to a woman as a she and a man as a he much easier than what you just spewed, and it has nothing to do with your imaginary prejudices you and that Danielle person love to accuse others of every time someone disagrees with you.
But sure, if you can't handle someone challenging what you say and expect us to roll over, by all means, see yourself out.
You don't refer to women as she and men as he, though. You refer to people with vaginas as she and people with penises as he. That's the difference.
You don't refer to women as she and men as he, though. You refer to people with vaginas as she and people with penises as he. That's the difference.
I'm not getting into how people define genders. You know by now how I see it and there's no need to get into it further. It's not even on topic, so I'll leave that at the door.
I'm not getting into how people define genders. You know by now how I see it and there's no need to get into it further. It's not even on topic, so I'll leave that at the door.
You always say this, yet you always feel the need to stick your nose into Krem threads and bring it up.
You don't refer to women as she and men as he, though. You refer to people with vaginas as she and people with penises as he. That's the difference.
Correction: you refer to them as male, and female. Gender is not inherently tied to biology.
It's the same thing. Gender roles and norms are cultural, gender itself is biological. If I refer to a woman - i.e. a biologically female human (you know, that's the definition of the term) - as a man, I am making a wrong statement.You don't refer to women as she and men as he, though. You refer to people with vaginas as she and people with penises as he. That's the difference.
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