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[Monoservo]

hmm a role play reason ? i have not gotten there , and i role play in a different way mostly like im a higher life form experiencing a lower dimension, from that perspective more things in Dragon age make sense, but as someone who live her self in to the particular character you made as being you, being mortal remember gods do not posses mortals daemons will posses mortals. god's uh are said to inspire mortals trough ,inactivity? if it a god its is unbeatable  in power. if its demonic well you have a chance of escaping it

[Mes]

I've done both, and personally I think drinking from it yourself is by FAR the more fun choice - consequences be damned. 

 

If you drink yourself, you get to fight and tame a dragon. That is COOL. Nevermind the fact that your Inquisitor instantly gets way more interesting.

 

Sorry but I really felt like Morrigan's huge cameo was unnecessary, and giving her this power - which in the end will likely mean nothing, just like the OGB - just sounded ridiculous to me. Some mage advisor that your character doesn't know, joins your party toward the end, and demands all this power? NAH.

 

I had an elf who romanced Solas drink from it (she was the first of my characters to do it), and the implications of that made her personal arc awesome. 

 

I'm this huge symbol, Herald of bloody Andraste, I will drink from that well every time.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

My Inquisitors did not drink from the Well.

 

Why ?

 

1) The word "Geas" / "Geis". I have read up a bit on Scottish and Gaelic mythology to know to never touch anything that comes with a geas. In fact, the entire Temple of Mythal questline is steeped in old Scottish and old Gaelic mythology. 

 

2) Cole's comment on the Well which went something along these lines :- "There would be too many voices in your head, talking over you. You do not want them." I am someone who is quite big on personal freedom and I dislike having my mind pried or be taken over by something. Heck, my Shepard did not romance Liara or Samara for their capacity to invade my Shepard's head. You think I would let my Inquisitors let their minds be taken over ? 

 

3) The fact that Corypheus seeks to use the Well's power but does not want to partake it himself. If your arch-nemesis, an ancient wizard of legends, refuse to use a power directly and wants a sacrificial pawn, don't you think that there is a high chance that the Well might be dangerous.

 

4) Solas vehement, direct and very harsh :- "No. Do not ask me again." The last time I saw Solas that upset about something it was when his spirit friend was screwed over by foolish mages. 

[Icy Magebane]

I've done both, and personally I think drinking from it yourself is by FAR the more fun choice - consequences be damned. 

 

If you drink yourself, you get to fight and tame a dragon. That is COOL. Nevermind the fact that your Inquisitor instantly gets way more interesting.

 

Sorry but I really felt like Morrigan's huge cameo was unnecessary, and giving her this power - which in the end will likely mean nothing, just like the OBG - just sounded ridiculous to me. Some mage advisor that your character doesn't know, joins your party toward the end, and demands all this power? NAH.

 

I had an elf who romanced Solas drink from it (she was the first of my characters to do it), and the implications of that made her personal arc awesome. 

 

I'm this huge symbol, Herald of bloody Andraste, I will drink from that well every time.

Thank you.  This is why I didn't like that the choice was even presented in the first place.  It seems like a terrible idea to drink from the Well, but otherwise the X-Factor known as Morrigan gets some kind of special powers... and we can't refuse this nonsense outright?  Give me a break...

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Thank you.  This is why I didn't like that the choice was even presented in the first place.  It seems like a terrible idea to drink from the Well, but otherwise the X-Factor known as Morrigan gets some kind of special powers... and we can't refuse this nonsense outright?  Give me a break...

 

This actually ties into the...fragility...of the main plot...

 

The Well of Sorrows is the thing that is responsible for revealing the thing about Corypheus' dragon and how he can be killed.

 

If they wanted to make the Well completely optional, Bioware would have given us a secondary option on how to get this information on Corypheus and his dragon.

 

Obviously we could have Mythal or Fen'Harel tell us but Bioware has plans for them so...

 

This is what we ended up with...

[Icy Magebane]

This actually ties into the...fragility...of the main plot...

 

The Well of Sorrows is the thing that is responsible for revealing the thing about Corypheus' dragon and how he can be killed.

 

If they wanted to make the Well completely optional, Bioware would have given us a secondary option on how to get this information on Corypheus and his dragon.

 

Obviously we could have Mythal or Fen'Harel tell us but Bioware has plans for them so...

 

This is what we ended up with...

Yeah, I'm not a fan of stories where there is a single, top-secret method that the protagonists must employ in order to succeed, especially when this top-secret method gets revealed completely out of nowhere, without foreshadowing beforehand or even a proper explanation at the time of the revelation.  I mean, are they trying to say that the entirety of the game hinges on this magical pool of water?  What if they didn't meet Morrigan?  Oh, right... she forced her way onto the team.  Well, what if they arrived in the the Arbor Wilds a day late and Corypheus got to the pool first?  He didn't seemed that interested in it until the player decided it was time to go to that area, but what if he got sick of waiting for the Inquisitor to finish the last of their fetch quests and put his plans in motion...?  Oh wait, the timing is perfect because everything in the world revolves around the player.  It's ridiculous... situations that can only be resolved in a single, very specific way through the use of a previously unheard of McGuffin are the worst kind of sloppy writing...

[Shahadem]

My Inquisitors did not drink from the Well.

 

Why ?

 

1) The word "Geas" / "Geis". I have read up a bit on Scottish and Gaelic mythology to know to never touch anything that comes with a geas. In fact, the entire Temple of Mythal questline is steeped in old Scottish and old Gaelic mythology. 

 

And you also should have read that was Scottish and Gaelic mythology about how the world of the Scotts and the Gauls worked. That isn't how the DA world works. This whole Geas thing was complete bullshit which is entirely antithetical with how magic works in the Dragon Age universe.

 

Also, this wasn't power, this was knowledge, memories. If you are thinking of the fountain that Harry stuck his head in to access Dumbledore's memories then you are on the right track. Dragon Age does support the transmission of memories, as memories exist in the Fade until they are changed.

[Shahadem]

This actually ties into the...fragility...of the main plot...

 

The Well of Sorrows is the thing that is responsible for revealing the thing about Corypheus' dragon and how he can be killed.

 

Except it doesn't. That really comes from Mythal who has been watching Cory since he entered the Fade a thousand years ago.

 

Yeah, I'm not a fan of stories where there is a single, top-secret method that the protagonists must employ in order to succeed, especially when this top-secret method gets revealed completely out of nowhere, without foreshadowing beforehand or even a proper explanation at the time of the revelation.  I mean, are they trying to say that the entirety of the game hinges on this magical pool of water?  What if they didn't meet Morrigan?  Oh, right... she forced her way onto the team.  Well, what if they arrived in the the Arbor Wilds a day late and Corypheus got to the pool first?  He didn't seemed that interested in it until the player decided it was time to go to that area, but what if he got sick of waiting for the Inquisitor to finish the last of their fetch quests and put his plans in motion...?  Oh wait, the timing is perfect because everything in the world revolves around the player.  It's ridiculous... situations that can only be resolved in a single, very specific way through the use of a previously unheard of McGuffin are the worst kind of sloppy writing...

 

But really it is all just magic. The dragon and Cory's ties to it are a creation of magic. We could just use magic to deal with it. In fact that's how it does work. So there was no need for the Well. But Bioware hates trying to think about how its world actually works.

 

Ever since ME3, Bioware has decided to write via deus ex machina.

[Aren]

I've done both, and personally I think drinking from it yourself is by FAR the more fun choice - consequences be damned. 

 

If you drink yourself, you get to fight and tame a dragon. That is COOL. Nevermind the fact that your Inquisitor instantly gets way more interesting.

 

Sorry but I really felt like Morrigan's huge cameo was unnecessary, and giving her this power - which in the end will likely mean nothing, just like the OBG - just sounded ridiculous to me. Some mage advisor that your character doesn't know, joins your party toward the end, and demands all this power? NAH.

 

I had an elf who romanced Solas drink from it (she was the first of my characters to do it), and the implications of that made her personal arc awesome. 

 

I'm this huge symbol, Herald of bloody Andraste, I will drink from that well every time.

Well said fu***** the consequences the well is mine and given the fact that Flemeth is gone and Solas would never do any harm to my inquisitors especially the female Dalish elf (provided that he absorbed Mythal,because now  that Gaider is busy with another IP i honestly do not know if they want to pursue the route of Morrigan achieving Mythal godhood or give the same to Solas and make him a double god) Miss or Mr glowin hand will have the power of two gods,ah take that Morrigan no dragon form for you.

[Eldial3los]

Chance of going on power trip with heavy side effect = No question ask I'm in.

Worst case u get control by an evil god and destroy the world which isn't really bad And seem more interesting than the ending we have.

Wish we had an option to let Cory drink from it just to make the game harder and more meaningful.

[NaclynE]

Well so far most of my playthroughs I have let Morrigan take the well because I try to role play my characters on what they feel is right/wrong. The reason why Amolla and Draven Vollsa wouldn't take the fountain is because they are warriors and are not knowledgeable in magic. The reason why I had Vyre Dite take the fountain was because she was a mage and believed that a forbidden power like that should fall into her hands and not be misused since she rgardless of trusting Morrigan felt that maybe in time Morrigan may misuse the power of the fountain or be corrupted by it.

 

Again I try to role play and make decisions that would make sense to the character I am playing.

[Lanavis]

One my first playthrough before I knew what would happen my Inquisitor didn't want anyone taking the risk for her, so she drank from the well.  Being Dalish also played a role, as well as my Inquisitor felt she was most reliable not to misuse the knowledge.

Same.

My Quizzy didn't want anymore people than necessary to suffer b/c of his wrong decisions (this was after his entire clan was wiped out due to his mistake). Plus, as a Dalish elf, he felt that he or Solas should be the ones to merge with the well of sorrows and since Solas refused, he stepped up.

[Paragonslustre]

I did not drink (human mage) after a few revelations in the temple it could have been elf pee as far as my Inquisitor was concerned.  I did, however, trust Solas (ha!) when he told me not to drink, but I also trusted Morrigan enough to let her drink as she'd been helpful and I didn't see her pursuit of knowledge as a bad thing.  I tend to see the good in people, we'll see where that gets me 

[Helios969]

Well I have to admit that I was seriously metagaming on my first playthrough since I had been hypothesizing for a while that Flemeth was Mythal.  So when Morrigan was pretty much begging me to drink from the pool I had a big smile on my face.  Absolutely, Morrigan.  You should drink.  And man was that totally worth it.

 

I've done it on subsequent playthroughs...but it only makes sense to me if I'm a mage or Dalish...preferably both.  Otherwise let the magical expert mess with that stuff.

[Anaeme]

Morrigan is the only person that should drink from the well.

 

The Well of Sorrows was bait that Flemeth specifically laid for Morrigan and she did so with the knowlege that her daughter would be so hungry for power that she will not resist the temptation to drink.

 

Morrigan has always loved power...right from DAO when she was much younger. I dont know why Flemeth raised her to love power like that 

[Chuvvy]

It won't really matter either way.

[TK514]

Normally, I'd say that whatever pisses Morrigan off is the right thing to do.

 

In this, case, however, the look on her face when she discovers she is bound to the will of Flemeth forever is just priceless.

[Anaeme]

"Mother must be very pleased..."

[TK514]

It's a pity we couldn't make Solas drink it.  That would have ended hilariously.

[Heidirs]

 

1) The word "Geas" / "Geis". I have read up a bit on Scottish and Gaelic mythology to know to never touch anything that comes with a geas. In fact, the entire Temple of Mythal questline is steeped in old Scottish and old Gaelic mythology. 

 

Care to elaborate? I love mythology.

[SgtSteel91]

I played as a Human Warrior Inquisitor and while they had extensive knowledge of Magic (from the Arcane Knowledge Perk), they believed they wouldn't be able to properly use the power of the Well, at best, or it would damage them, at worst. They figured that a Mage, Elf, or an Elven Mage would be able to use the power of this Magical Elven Artifact to its fullest. They asked Solas if he would drink, being an Elven Mage, but he shot that down. Morrigan argued that she had the training to use the Well and she would accept any consequence so she got the Well.

[SolNebula]

My Dalish mage thought that elven knowledge should remain in elven hands. No human should have it. I offered it first to Solas since he appeared wise but after his refusal my Dalish inquisitor understood this is a great opportunity to regain power for the elves.

[AikoTM]

I decided to drink from the Well myself. (Or my Char did)

 

Morrigan wanted it too much, imo. Something didn't feel right.

Dorian was with me.. so i got the option to let him drink. But that was just.. idk.. why should i make him do that?

 

Also.. my Character is elf (El-vhen).. and proud of it.

Bound to Mythal? That's not even a punishment.

[Zerc]

Every eye will be a well of sorrow in the coming age.