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Aerohead

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Hi there!

This might be a stupid question, but is there a way to avoid a patch or maybe even remove a patch?

With the item exploit being fixed in the new patch 5 I would like to avoid the patch, until I have everything (i.e. schematics) before updating the game. I'm playing the digital PC Version via origin.

Upon starting the game, the update process starts automatically.

 

Thanks in advance and have a nice day,

 

Aerohead



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You can choose not to download it. Disable origin in-game, auotmatic game update and put origin in offline mode. You can't remove a patch once its installed


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I beleive that you may be able to go back IF you kep the downloaded install folder



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mrmike_1949

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but why would you want to (except for a few exploits)



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dongsaeng

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but why would you want to (except for a few exploits)

In some cases, mods don't work in the latest patches and could break the game. I haven't dabbled into modding my Inquisition game yet, but it is the likely case for most games.



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Surely you could remove a patch by deleting the game from your hard drive and reinstalling?

I could be wrong but I'm sure I've had to download patches again when I did a reinstall.
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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game. 

 

 

The point is to play and be ecstatic when you get something good. That is what makes the hunt and the adventure fun. 

 

 

Why would you simply want to hand yourself everything without ever earning it? 

 

 

What is the fun in that? 


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We don't all enjoy the same things Coyote. For my part I've never been a big fan of the combat in RPGs (except ME3). I'm playing for the story and RP.
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We don't all enjoy the same things Coyote. For my part I've never been a big fan of the combat in RPGs (except ME3). I'm playing for the story and RP.

 

 

Like I said. I won't be able to understand. 

 

 

Buying a game and doing your best to not play it is like buying a car and doing your best to not drive it. 


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Thandal N'Lyman

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Like I said. I won't be able to understand. 

 

 

Buying a game and doing your best to not play it is like buying a car and doing your best to not drive it. 

 

Point.  Missed.

À chacun son goût.  B)


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Thandal N'Lyman

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Surely you could remove a patch by deleting the game from your hard drive and reinstalling?

I could be wrong but I'm sure I've had to download patches again when I did a reinstall.

 

Unfortunately, (or fortunately, depending on POV) when you do a full install EA/Origin will ONLY deliver the latest version (patches and all.)

 

And AFAIK, there is no place to download "just the patch, ma'am."  I always get the retail disc version when I can, and with previous games I would keep a copy of every patch in a separate folder so I could roll-back (actually "un-/re-intall") to whatever point I wanted.  Sadly, that's no longer possible without setting up multiple simultaneous versions, one after each patch.  And without EA/Origin support, that  gets extremely complicated in a hurry!



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Some companies, such as Paradox, have started providing the ability to roll back to previous patches on Steam through the "beta" system. It a pretty useful system, particularly for those of use who use mods that are broken by new patches (as they are in this case).



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Some companies, such as Paradox, have started providing the ability to roll back to previous patches on Steam through the "beta" system. It a pretty useful system, particularly for those of use who use mods that are broken by new patches (as they are in this case).

It's actually possible to use mods with this patch, it just requires following these steps shared in the DA: I Tools forum: http://daitools.free...in-t585-40.html

 

After following those instructions, I was able to have all of my mods work with this new patch.



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It's actually possible to use mods with this patch, it just requires following these steps shared in the DA: I Tools forum: http://daitools.free...in-t585-40.html

 

After following those instructions, I was able to have all of my mods work with this new patch.

 

Thanks, I'll give that a try when I get home. Can't play the game without some pajama reskins at the very least :P



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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game.

The "point of playing the game" differs from player to player.
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Sylvius the Mad

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Hi there!
This might be a stupid question, but is there a way to avoid a patch or maybe even remove a patch?
With the item exploit being fixed in the new patch 5 I would like to avoid the patch, until I have everything (i.e. schematics) before updating the game. I'm playing the digital PC Version via origin.
Upon starting the game, the update process starts automatically.

Thanks in advance and have a nice day,

Aerohead

It's a legitimate question, OP. A player might just prefer how a different version of the game plays.

I avoided patch 1.02 in DAO until someone released a mod to undo the spell nerfs in it. And I avoided patch 1.03 as well - I installed that only to be compatible with DLC (and was delighted to discover that the nerf undo mod also disabled the 1.03 change I didn't like - lieutenant-rank enemies remain shatterable in my DAO to this day).

Some patches radically alter gameplay. NWN's patch 1.03 made enemies immune to friendly fire, so I avoided that patch for years. And NWN2's patch 1.03 did exactly the same thing, so I also avoided that.

Luckily, back then we got to choose which version of a game we played. But no longer. With Steam and Origin, they only host the most recent version of the game. That means that downloading or activating a game updates you to the current version, with no way to rollback (so uninstalling anf reinstalling doesn't work). So the only way to avoid patches is to install on Day 1 and then disable automatic updates.

But even that doesn't always work. Origin sometimes declares patches to be mandatory. if so (and both patch 4 and patch 5 for DAI have been mandatory), you must keep Origin offline in order to prevent it from.declaring "your game will not be playable until the update is installed".

Patching a single-player game should always be optional. Unfortunately, it recently hasn't been.

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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game. 

 

 

The point is to play and be ecstatic when you get something good. That is what makes the hunt and the adventure fun. 

 

 

Why would you simply want to hand yourself everything without ever earning it? 

 

 

What is the fun in that? 

 

Have an open mind, and realize that some people just don't want to waste hours upon hours fighting with the random number generator on their 9th play-through.  If you are strictly speaking of someones first time to play then I wholeheartedly agree.  But I have played almost every specialization now and I'll be damned if I'm going to go farming for schematics every single time.  I want to give myself a good start and load up with all the best schematics (and some extra skill points) at the very start so I can focus on enjoying the content of the game with my new specialization, and not the grind.


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Buying a game and doing your best to not play it is like buying a car and doing your best to not drive it. 

This analogy is interesting, because there are only a finite ways to utilize an automobile, transportation being its main purpose.

Although, as you can imagine, some people buy them just for the sake of modifiying, stuyding the machinery, taking it apart and putting the parts back together.

 

I realized that with a rather complex game software that contains a sophiscated game engine and combat mechanic, a player can actually attempt to change&alter the game for whatever way he/she wishes, in order to get more entertainment out of it.

 

I also noticed that once a game is on the players' system, its their's forever. The whole concept of end-user license agreement (EULA) gets thrown out the window the moment the game is installed on their PC.

 

Personally, I believe I have no right to object the people who wish to experiment with entertainment softwares such as "Dragon age: Inquisition."


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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game. 

 

 

The point is to play and be ecstatic when you get something good. That is what makes the hunt and the adventure fun. 

 

 

Why would you simply want to hand yourself everything without ever earning it? 

 

 

What is the fun in that? 

Well, considering the fact that BioWare doesn't bother adding a New Game Plus mode (like a lot of games that have replay-ability do), exploits help to simulate/emulate that experience of a New Game Plus mode in the 2nd, 3rd or more play through. 

For a 1st play through, I won't touch any exploits. But soon after my 2nd, things began to feel like a grind. It would be much nicer if I could start a 2nd or 3rd play through with schematics unlocked and influence levels carried over. 

Not to hate BioWare, they made a great game, but it would benefit for a new game plus mode so much. I think Mass Effect kind of had that (2 or 3?), with levels carrying over in new games. Sad that Dragon Age couldn't.


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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game.


The point is to play and be ecstatic when you get something good. That is what makes the hunt and the adventure fun.


Why would you simply want to hand yourself everything without ever earning it?


What is the fun in that?


Yes, when you get rewards for doing something-- it is wonderful. Only, loads of people don't get a lot of worthy loot. There is little reward. Last night, I killed four Giants who were all attacking me, along with about three or four brontos who got caught up in the fighting and every single item looted from them was weaker than what I already had. I wasn't too ecstatic. It felt like I had wasted my time.

Still haven't got any Fade-Touched Silverite and I am on my forth run. I tried farming for about an hour, at someone's suggestion
and gave up.

Rare is rare, I get it. However, if you're level twenty and have killed a lot of high level creatures and put your time in-- you should not be looting items four to five levels under you. That isn't a reward system, it's a lottery.
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I will never be able to understand why people use exploits that completely undermine the entire point of playing the game. 

 

 

The point is to play and be ecstatic when you get something good. That is what makes the hunt and the adventure fun. 

 

 

Why would you simply want to hand yourself everything without ever earning it? 

 

 

What is the fun in that? 

 

Most likely because of the bore fest farming required to craft good gear mid - late game. I'm pretty sure the main reason they fixed the item dupe exploit is so EA/Bioware can make money off the upcoming Black Emporium DLC. To be honest, the removal of the item dupe exploit makes me not want to revisit DAI for a 2nd playthrough.



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Most likely because of the bore fest farming required to craft good gear mid - late game. I'm pretty sure the main reason they fixed the item dupe exploit is so EA/Bioware can make money off the upcoming Black Emporium DLC. To be honest, the removal of the item dupe exploit makes me not want to revisit DAI for a 2nd playthrough.

 

How will they make money on it when its going to be free? 



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How will they make money on it when its going to be free? 

Didn't know that. If so, that's cool. Still doesn't make senese for them to patch an exploit that was based on the player's discretion whether they wanted to use it or not.



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Didn't know that. If so, that's cool. Still doesn't make senese for them to patch an exploit that was based on the player's discretion whether they wanted to use it or not.

 

It's a major exploit that makes the game function differently than intended.

 

Player discretion in this case is irrelevant.


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They still have story DLC coming. They probably want to get as many of these unintended glitches fixed as possible before their release.

Problem with relying on glitches is companies quite often have a nasty habit of fixing them. Of course some get missed.

Hopefully when the BE is released some of the grind will be taken from gathering crafting mats. That would be something.


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