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#26
bunniebean

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Jeez.....Great way to do massive damage WITHOUT cheating? Simple, if you find fade touched ring velvet ( 10% chance to use hidden blades) use it for seras or your armor. Had to take the armor off actually because it was too easy to mow down bad guys.

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there was a patch yesterday by origin and when i started to play i found that my archer tempest is completly useless because the flask of fire dosent permitt anymore to performe thousands cuts without loosing the focus .

the chance to perform thousands cuts every time i use the flask of fire (yhat i remember has a very long cooltime) was the only reason i picked up this class for my playtrough and now just when the hard final part of the game is starting (lv 19 ) i have an archer doing so few dmg compared with other class.

An archer has very few strong damage abilities and till now was compensating this with the use of the flasks 

the point is thar i played 120 hours having in mind this build for my character and now i have the only chance to respec him  entirely and try a rough with dagger even if i already built sera in this way

why the developers dont tell you the content of a patch so to let you decide to install it or not ?

what you think ?

 

 

sorry for my english

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If you think a tempest archer is too weak and have few heavy hitting moves then your just playing it wrong. It's not the class and spec...It's just you.

What is your character specs?



#28
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in the other tread i didnt explain well what i ment  and everybody is speaking of other things not of my problem

by the way Psychevore and PillarBiter  are you playng as an archer ?

if yes explain to me  how to put a tempest archer at the same level of other classes from now on 

if not dont complain.

2 question i like people to answer

1 how to make this class strong now

2  do you agree to ask  the developers to  tell you the content of a patch so to let you decide to install it or not ?

thx for help

Put your stats into cunning. then into dex. and critical damege. All rogue....And I mean ALL ROGUES...heavy hitting damage is based around critical hits and critical chance. 



#29
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Jeez.....Great way to do massive damage WITHOUT cheating? Simple, if you find fade touched ring velvet ( 10% chance to use hidden blades) use it for seras or your armor. Had to take the armor off actually because it was too easy to mow down bad guys.

 

If you find the Griffon bow that fires 3 arrows at a time... it makes using that fade touched material even more lethal.

 

OP, my first run was as a tempest archer on hard. I knew about the exploit, and I used it once or twice when I was getting close to the end of the game (on a completionist run) and wanted to get through packs of enemies quickly so I could get onto end game stuff. That being said, give yourself the purple belt that increases focus gain by 30% and you can still use A Thousand Cuts frequently because certainly at your level you should be killing things quickly and easily now anyway. I was so ridiculously overpowered, I finished the game at level 25, and barely had to do anything during a dragon fight. 

 

I see no reason to patch out exploits in a single player game if their patching isn't essential in combating other bugs (which it well might have been), and I don't care how other people play their game - I think you can have a great deal of fun when cheating, and I like it when games give me that option - but the claim that a tempest archer is useless without this exploit is downright wrong. Your skill might not be that great, and that's fine - not everyone has the same strengths, and you should be able to enjoy the game as you want, but you can change the difficulty in the options menu, and I'm sure you'll still be able to have plenty of fun using A Thousand Cuts less frequently, but still to help take down those really tough bad guys.



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there was a patch yesterday by origin and when i started to play i found that my archer tempest is completly useless because the flask of fire dosent permitt anymore to performe thousands cuts without loosing the focus .

the chance to perform thousands cuts every time i use the flask of fire (yhat i remember has a very long cooltime) was the only reason i picked up this class for my playtrough and now just when the hard final part of the game is starting (lv 19 ) i have an archer doing so few dmg compared with other class.

An archer has very few strong damage abilities and till now was compensating this with the use of the flasks 

the point is thar i played 120 hours having in mind this build for my character and now i have the only chance to respec him  entirely and try a rough with dagger even if i already built sera in this way

why the developers dont tell you the content of a patch so to let you decide to install it or not ?

what you think ?

 

 

sorry for my english

 

My archer uses upgraded stealth (+50% armour penetration) and poison weapons (+25% damage) combined with devastating skills such as upgraded long shot, explosive shot and full draw. It's devastating. I thus dispute your view that archers are weak without the use of a focus exploit.



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LOL L2P nub

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OP, if you want a decent tempest archer, I suggest this build (or something similar):

 

Archery - Maxed.

Sabotage - Upgrade poison weapons (including fighting dirty).

Subterfuge - Stick to the left side of the tree (Stealth, Evasion, Evade and Ambush).

Tempest - Right side of the tree (upgraded flask of fire).

Dump the rest of your points into whatever passive abilities add to your dps (such as the Double Dagger passives that affect archery).

 

With this build, you can toggle poison weapons, stealth and flask of fire every so often for moments of +25% damage, +50% armour penetration, and zero cooldown/zero stamina cost which can lead to incredible bursts of damage. Don't forget to use synergies e.g explosive shot + poison weapons allows you to cause poison explosions and your attack following leaping shot does +200% damage. Upgraded long shot is incredible as it can tear through crowds of enemies for massive damage if you position yourself correctly.


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#34
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If you're an Archer you should've made an Assassin, anyway.

 

Archers -> Assasin

Dual Wielders -> Tempest


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#35
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If you're an Archer you should've made an Assassin, anyway.

 

Archers -> Assasin

Dual Wielders -> Tempest

Funny I thought that was the other way around from everything I have heard from a lot of other players.  I have not had the opprotunity to play a rogue and this is one of the big decisions facing me.  



#36
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If you're an Archer you should've made an Assassin, anyway.

 

Archers -> Assasin

Dual Wielders -> Tempest

Tempest is good for archers and Dw.



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in the other tread i didnt explain well what i ment  and everybody is speaking of other things not of my problem

by the way Psychevore and PillarBiter  are you playng as an archer ?

if yes explain to me  how to put a tempest archer at the same level of other classes from now on 

if not dont complain.

2 question i like people to answer

1 how to make this class strong now

2  do you agree to ask  the developers to  tell you the content of a patch so to let you decide to install it or not ?

thx for help

 

1) I am playing as an archer (though be it assassin). And tempest can do just fine. You're asking me how to build it overpowered. That's just stupid. In any case, it's not a single character game. Build the rest of the team to complement you.

2) They DO tell you. Look up the friggin' topic. it's your own fault for accepting the download before checking these forums.



#38
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I still find tempest to be a very fun rogue specialisation, whether your daggers or a bow, it still rocks.

The storm approaches. We get to say that ;)

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2) They DO tell you. Look up the friggin' topic. it's your own fault for accepting the download before checking these forums.

I know right! I didn't update tf2 when they nerfed the dead ringer and now I'm still invincibly pwning noobs. Luckily there is nothing server admins or origin could do to make you update your game.

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thx for all your suggestions ill keep my archer then  but for the next more difficoult playtrough which is the most powerfull and funny to play build over all ? khight enchanter ?



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Archers don't do any damage?  Really?  I have seen Full Draw do 2K-3K.  Long Shot do upwards of 6K.  And Leaping Shot is absolutly insane...talk about Dragon mincemeat.  

 

Agreed. My first Inquisitor was an archer. Full Draw can one shot base enemies amd Leap Shot genuinely can do some hefty damage to entire groups of enemies.

 

The latter is a must in multiplayer, too.



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Hal-Jordan

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@leaguer of one

 

So are Assassin and Artificer. From my experiences, Archers make better assassins and Daggers make better Tempests.