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[ThreeF]

I'd guess the animation of the scenes for different races was at least a partial reason for it.

[ThreeF]

Yeah - I understand the need to cut corners, especially when operating under EA's watch. But at the same time, I still would like to toss race gating out the window. :/

Nothing to do with EA, it's costly (as in time consuming) and difficult to animate same scene for characters of different sizes and shapes.

[vertigomez]

I thought it worked really well for Solas. It wouldn't have worked for Bull, who is an anything-that-moves type of guy, so I'm glad they didn't gate him because it would have been for the sake of mechanics and not for the story.

Cullen's gating was a little harder to swallow. I'm pretty sure that was 100% a time and resources issue.

[Lorien19]

The main reason some characters (aka Solas and Cullen) were race-gated was because they were added in the game during later stages of development,which means there was not enough time to implement additional animations etc,not to mention that it can be costly to animate each romance scene for every race.

[Abyss108]

But most of the Solas scenes would need to be rewritten from scratch if you weren't an Elf...

 

That entire final scene with the Vallaslin wouldn't make any sense. And if you just cut that part out, then you've just told players the romance isn't gated, but then removed the best content if they don't play the "correct" race.

[JosieRevisited]

I don't know... if they don't race gate things, it would be nice if they gave all romance options equal time and attention during design. For example - Josephine and a qunari Inquisitor (at least the female one) - beyond awkward. They exaggerated the height difference and I cringed playing through this. However, they didn't do the same thing with Sera which means one of two things:

 

1. Elves, despite seeming exactly the same as humans in every respect except perhaps being bonier, actually *are* taller, by a lot.

2. They put more time into Sera's romance and animations that weren't weird. 

 

So what does this mean? I don't know. I just hope they take all our feedback into account and give us more quality than quantity. There's a lot of romances, but they are so unbalanced and awkward that I'd rather they had put serious time into fewer and really made them count. 

[Abyss108]

Oh see, I would prefer to miss out on it if I was a human or qunari etc. And then be pleasantly surprised when I play as an elf.

 

I'd be pretty upset if Bioware told me I'd get equal content, but then found out I only got 50% of the content. And what they cut out was the big dramatic final scene. 

 

The Solas romance worked so well because of how specific it is. Every other romance has to be written for any generic character, and can never hit any personal notes with your character. Solas insults your culture, and you can confront him about it. He reveals your entire history is a lie to you, and you can react accordingly. No other romance Bioware has written has anything like that.

 

If it were a few little lines that were changed if you weren't an Elf, I'd be fine with it. But it would remove every twist, confrontation, and all the drama from the romance if you weren't an Elf. It would just be a few kiss scenes. It would be a much lesser romance.

 

Just my opinion on the matter  

[Abyss108]

Indeed! I guess I just see it working out differently. As a dwarf or qunari, Solas could comment on your culture/religion etc. in comparison to that of the elves. He could malign the Dalish with the common dwarves or with the qunari mages - how they were seen as inferior - as slaves. How the dwarves have markings on their faces just like the elves. And from there the dialogue builds toward one direction or another, leading to a strained or shaky romance.  And as a human you'd get a romance like, "This is what humans did to elves... but I can't shake these feelings for you in spite of you being human..." And there would be all kinds of intrigue and drama between those two. 

 

I just think there would be higher replay value in those cases. I know people can quote/reply to this with "But - resources!" and I get that. I do. But my opinion still stands.

 

See, my problem with this, is that you have now completely changed the character! That might all work for someone who isn't Solas, and that would be a great romance with a lot of replayability that wouldn't need to be race-gated. I'm all for Bioware writing something like that in the future! But Solas doesn't see the other races as inferior, and doesn't blame humans for what happened to elves. He doesn't dismiss the Dalish because they descended from "inferior" slaves, he dismisses them because they turned him away when he appeared to them as Fen'Harel and told them the truth. So I just can't see there ever being as much conflict/drama for the other races, no matter what Bioware wrote. I'd rather have the romance race-gated if it will make it better - which I think it did in this case! 

 

[stop_him]

I like race-gating. It adds reply value. I think people are just pissed because they couldn't romance Cullen with a male, a qunari or a dwarf. Granted some it was time-related, but I do recall him saying some nasty things about dwarves and qunari in past games. The whole bisexual Cullen thing is... been there done that. 

 

In the end, I am pro race-gating and pro- straight-only and gay-only romances. You get more unique experiences that way. I even think Sera should have flat out refused elven females.  

[Nefla]

Yeah the gates in DA:I just felt tacked on, especially Cullen's. I mean you can flirt with him as a man and he turns you down which feels more natural but as a Qunari or Dwarf woman you can't even attempt it, why? The only race preference that felt natural was Sera's and she's not even gated.

[stop_him]

I don't know... if they don't race gate things, it would be nice if they gave all romance options equal time and attention during design. For example - Josephine and a qunari Inquisitor (at least the female one) - beyond awkward. They exaggerated the height difference and I cringed playing through this. 

Have you seen the female dwarf Josiemance! That is all LOLs all the time.

[BansheeOwnage]

Because people are saying that they're gated because of extra animations, I need to point something out. Apparently, Blackwall's scene with a dwarf has you two scurrying along the floor kissing, and when it shows your heads, they're the same height, and in the next shot, your feet are  also on the ground. So, no, they didn't change the animations for races there. I'm not sure about other romances, but I'd bet they didn't really change anything either.

 

I get Solas, but because of what I said above, I have no idea why Cullen is gated.

[Nefla]

I like race-gating. It adds reply value. I think people are just pissed because they couldn't romance Cullen with a male, a qunari or a dwarf. Granted some it was time-related, but I do recall him saying some nasty things about dwarves and qunari in past games. The whole bisexual Cullen thing is... been there done that. 

 

In the end, I am pro race-gating and pro- straight-only and gay-only romances. You get more unique experiences that way. I even think Sera should have flat out refused elven females.  

Characters having preferences is great, it just wasn't executed very well in DA:I IMO.

[Cespar]

I think that they should keep on with race-gated/sexual preferences, because it adds depths to characters.
Cullen was raised in a Chantry based home, and that would make sense for him to not enter a relationship with a Qunari and Dwarf.
Solas thinks of the elves as his people, and he has a bad opinion on the other races, until he joins the Inquisition, but still has so much pride into the elven race.

[stop_him]

I think that they should keep on with race-gated/sexual preferences, because it adds depths to characters.
Cullen was raised in a Chantry based home, and that would make sense for him to not enter a relationship with a Qunari and Dwarf.
Solas thinks of the elves as his people, and he has a bad opinion on the other races, until he joins the Inquisition, but still has so much pride into the elven race.

I agree. I didn't have any issue with Cullen's race gating because I remember him saying that qunari and dwarves were "savages." I mean, he is an uptight Chantry boy, and still holds some traditional views, no doubt. 

 

My bigger beef was with Josephine who states in-game that she cannot start a relationship with Blackwall because of what is essentially class differences! Oh, but a lesbian relationship with a qunari is totally doable, Josie?! Admit it, you just don't dig beards!

[Winged Silver]

(Just on the Cullen thing, I think they were also referring to his 'canon' interests - namely, that of a human or elf female, as evidenced by his infautation with a Warden female mage)

[Andraste_Reborn]

The thing about Cullen's race-gating is that he's willing to romance a Dalish elf. As far as I know, he makes no objection to her being 'elfy' and believing in the Creators, either. Meanwhile, he won't look twice at your dwarf or qunari even if they're a devout Andrastian. So as far as we can tell, he's just not into women who are significantly taller or shorter than he is.

 

(Which is fine. I just don't think the 'Cullen thinks dwarves and qunari are heathens and that's why he won't romance them' argument holds water.)

[Cespar]

My bigger beef was with Josephine who states in-game that she cannot start a relationship with Blackwall because of what is essentially class differences! Oh, but a lesbian relationship with a qunari is totally doable, Josie?! Admit it, you just don't dig beards!

Well the inquisitor becomes more than their race, and holds quite a lot of power and influence.

[Cespar]

The thing about Cullen's race-gating is that he's willing to romance a Dalish elf. As far as I know, he makes no objection to her being 'elfy' and believing in the Creators, either. Meanwhile, he won't look twice at your dwarf or qunari even if they're a devout Andrastian. So as far as we can tell, he's just not into women who are significantly taller or shorter than he is.

(Which is fine. I just don't think the 'Cullen thinks dwarves and qunari are heathens and that's why he won't romance them' argument holds water.)

He stills believe in a relationship with one. The Maker made humans and elves according to the Chantry. There is even a verse, according to the elf in Haven. Dwarves and Qunari can accept the Maker as their God, but that doesn't override Cullen's beliefs.

His opposite is Cassandra(♡), but she isn't bias, and is open to accept those who doesn't share her view.

[Zobert]

Race gating in this universe makes sense considering that Qunari have giant horns.  They are probably a different species, not a "race".

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Count me as another against race gating.