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[Oak3996]

Now that I finished 3 runs on DAI doing different strats and options, I'm just wondering if DAO or DA2 offers the same enjoyment. I'm looking for recommendation from those who went through the series.

 

Thank you.

[springacres]

I haven't played DAI, so I can't compare... but from my personal perspective, DAO is EPIC.  DA2 is less so - I think I would have enjoyed it more if they hadn't billed it as a sequel to Origins - but it has its moments as well.

[X Equestris]

It totally depends on what you like, but I'd say Origins will provide you with a fair amount of enjoyment. Combat is way different than DAI, so that will take some getting used to.

[Oak3996]

Thank you all for your DAO feedback. Definitely sounds like my kinda game. DAO ultimate edition ordered 

[MouseHopper]

Faerunner has described DAO beautifully, and I totally agree.  It is for me a much more enjoyable game than DAI.  However, I did also enjoy DA2, once I accepted the fact that it was not in any way meant to be a true follow up to DAO.  It plays completely differently.  The characters are different, and they interact differently.  Your hero is now voiced, and you can only choose from a male or female version of one person.  No choices of different backgrounds, etc. as in DAO.

 

As far as DAI is concerned, I have still not played it completely through although I do intend to.  It was very glitchy for me, and I found the game play to be somewhat awkward.  In addition, I had several issues with Origins interfering whenever I attempted to get into the game.  It was becoming so cumbersome and unenjoyable that I just stopped playing.  However I did get in enough game time to get a sense of the game and how it is played.   For me the style of playing and fighting were not as user friendly as I think you will find in DAO or DA2.  I believe that they went backwards with this game in so many ways when it comes to player interaction with the game world that I found myself becoming frustrated too often.  As a result I was not having fun, which I believe should be the whole point of gameplay. 

 

However, I do intend to give it another shot eventually.  I have just finished playing all three Mass Effect games with no problems or glitches, and have now started another game of Skyrim.  Perhaps I will give DAI another try after I'm finished with this one.

[KaiserShep]

I don't think you'll regret it. I love the game. I find certain things here and there to be a bit of a slog, but there's a lot of payoff to go with it.

[olnorton]

Apart from Morrigan, Flemeth, & Leliana, the game shares very little with DAI.

But if you enjoy it 1/2 as much as I did (& do), you will get your moneys worth.

[Archerwarden]

I've played DAI.
 
I don't know what you mean by "same enjoyment." It really depends on what you enjoyed about DAI, because it may or may not be present in DAO since they're different games. DAO is a more traditional fantasy "point and click" PC RPG a la Baldur's Gate, while DAI is more of a modern console fantasy a la Skyrim. DAO focuses more on story and characters than beautiful backgrounds and side quests, while DAI focuses WAY more on beautiful backgrounds and side quests, and less on central stories and character exploration.
 
In my opinion, DAO has the better story, writing, humor, illusion of choice, and "player decisions impact the world." The protagonist is silent, but the lines are much better-written. They're more snarky, hilarious, and directly address what the characters said. The party members are much more colorful (in my opinion), with much more hilarious and snarky conversations, party banter, and comments about random people you meet and places you visit. The player's origins are actually playable instead of text-based (like, you don't just get a tarot card saying "You were raised among the Dalish," you actually spend the first hour of the game interacting with your Dalish Clan and receiving the Call to Adventure) so you feel emotionally invested in your character, background, family, friends, and world before you get called up to save it. And every decision you make has consequences that you directly see, and impacts the world at large.
 
DAO also has a much more complex and compelling villain. DAI's villain was kind of flat, hammy, and only got 10 minutes of screen time in a 100+ hour game. This villain here is much more direct, involved with the plot, and is almost a Greek Tragic Hero. He's someone who does terrible things for what he convinces himself is the right reason, and it's so morally grey that some people sympathize with his motivation, while others (like me) say, "Get real!" He's so complex and polarizing that people online still argue about him to this day.
 
Honestly? I'd play DAO just for the playable origins, clever writing, snarky humor, and complex villain. I think it's worth the price of admission just for that.

This is beautiful.
I'd like to add, play it for the skill set, attributes, inventory choices too. The DW warrior, arcane mage, bow and dagger rogue -very fun.

[Damdil]

While Inquisition is enjoyable but not really remarkable, Origins is a somehow unique gaming experience. You get a far more rewarding and complex character developement for your main character, which gives a you a lot of options for individualisation and personally, I think the combat is much better and rewarding. Also the story is great. You won't get distracted with too many side quests as well. There are some, but those are well made and not stereotypical "go there, kill that" quests.

 

Last but not least, you're party members are really well designed characters with many options for interaction. Origins contains the most interesting characters of all more or less recent RPGs.

 

The only weak-point  are the somehow outdated graphics. I think they're good enough and I like the art design very much, but I read that some people who came to Origin from Inquisition thougt it was "too ugly". 

 

If you like RPGs in general, you really shouldn't miss Origins. I played nearly all Origins (5 playthroughs) and it's still fun because of all the decisions you have to take and the motivating gameplay.

[sjsharp2011]

I agree a lot with what people have said here Origins is definitely the best of the 3 story wise so if you can get past the moer clunkier graphics compared to Inquisition then I'd say give it a go as it is well worth playing not to mention a HUGE game compared to DA2 and Inquisition. Although I personally prefer DA2 and Inquisition more. As I find I prefer their combat style. I also personally prefer a voiced character over a silent one. I still feel Origins is a worthy game though so have no complaints over it other than I think the combat could have been a bit better implement3ed. I do like the game as in fact I've just finished the main game and am working through the DLC's now.

[themikefest]

I enjoyed DAO. Very good game. 

 

As a suggestion, why not view some gameplay videos on Youtube to see if its something that you might like. Or borrow the game from a friend if possible.

 

I bought the Ultimate Edition for $19.99 about 3 years ago that includes everything. The best $19.99 I spent.

[Damdil]

I agree a lot with what people have said here Origins is definitely the best of the 3 story wise so if you can get past the moer clunkier graphics compared to Inquisition then I'd say give it a go as it is well worth playing not to mention a HUGE game compared to DA2 and Inquisition. Although I personally prefer DA2 and Inquisition more. As I find I prefer their combat style. I also personally prefer a voiced character over a silent one. I still feel Origins is a worthy game though so have no complaints over it other than I think the combat could have been a bit better implement3ed. I do like the game as in fact I've just finished the main game and am working through the DLC's now.

Can you explain please why the combat in DA2 and especially Inquisition is better? In DA2 it's basically the same, the only big difference is that every character hits in a nearly ridicously fast way and rogues come with a lot of acrobatic inlay (which has no place in a fight believe me). What I like most in DA2 is the bigger variety of abilities, at least for warriors. Also unlike DA:O you can't unlock every skill needed which makes the character developement a tad more difficult. The combat in Inquisition is awful compared to Origins. You nearly have no need to micro manage stamina/mana for any character (turbo regeneration) and it doesn't have a real tactic screen which is really bad because of the stupid AI of your party members. Playing Inquisition generally feels like your 08/15 MMO where you use 3-4 abilities for your damage or tank routine. Speaking of abilities: Only having avaible 8 abilities for active use really destroyed the motivation to level up my character at a certain point. 

[X Equestris]

Can you explain please why the combat in DA2 and especially Inquisition is better? In DA2 it's basically the same, the only big difference is that every character hits in a nearly ridicously fast way and rogues come with a lot of acrobatic inlay (which has no place in a fight believe me). What I like most in DA2 is the bigger variety of abilities, at least for warriors. Also unlike DA:O you can't unlock every skill needed which makes the character developement a tad more difficult. The combat in Inquisition is awful compared to Origins. You nearly have no need to micro manage stamina/mana for any character (turbo regeneration) and it doesn't have a real tactic screen which is really bad because of the stupid AI of your party members. Playing Inquisition generally feels like your 08/15 MMO where you use 3-4 abilities for your damage or tank routine. Speaking of abilities: Only having avaible 8 abilities for active use really destroyed the motivation to level up my character at a certain point.

See, for me, DAO combat was absolutely awful. Incredibly slow, and the lack of a tactical camera on console severly hampered any planning that went into fights.

[Damdil]

See, for me, DAO combat was absolutely awful. Incredibly slow, and the lack of a tactical camera on console severly hampered any planning that went into fights.

 

I guess it's a matter of taste. I never really enjoyed the combat in Inquisition. If you call Origins "too slow", you probably never have played one of the Bioware classics. The tactical view in Inquisition is bad a joke. As I played Origins on PC, I never had problems with that matter.

[sjsharp2011]

See, for me, DAO combat was absolutely awful. Incredibly slow, and the lack of a tactical camera on console severly hampered any planning that went into fights.

Exactly the same for me although in my case I'm on PC I find it a bit slow I find the faster more action style that DA2 and Inquisition have more to my liking. It is more a personal preference though. Besides there is the option of switching your abilities around as long as you have them unlocked you just have to go through the menu system to do it and select which abilities you want on your toolbar but it can be done as I used that option myself in my fir5st run through the game, and will likely do so on my next one too.

[springacres]

Coming back to Origins after playing DA2, I will admit that I find the combat slower and clunkier in Origins.  However, I feel that the meatier storyline more than makes up for it.  The decisions you make in Origins don't always affect the world of Thedas, but they feel like they really do affect your character.  It just feels so much more personal than DA2.  Plus, you have more opportunities to interact with your companions, so you actually feel like you're getting to know them over the course of the game, as opposed to meeting them at second hand through someone else's memories.  Origins may be dated, but it feels much more immersive and cohesive as a game than DA2.

[Damdil]

Exactly the same for me although in my case I'm on PC I find it a bit slow I find the faster more action style that DA2 and Inquisition have more to my liking. It is more a personal preference though. Besides there is the option of switching your abilities around as long as you have them unlocked you just have to go through the menu system to do it and select which abilities you want on your toolbar but it can be done as I used that option myself in my fir5st run through the game, and will likely do so on my next one too.

 

I know it's possible, but still annoying. For example as a warrior with the templar specialisation, I found myself constantly swichting between the final ability, which only does damage to demons, and another ability from the 2H-tree for fights with non-demon enemies. Why can't I just have all available during combat? I think it's only because of the controller handling, which limits you to have only 8 abilities for quick use.

 

Sorry, but I don't get your point. The only real differences between the combat in Origins and DA2 are optical (and DA2 has more obvious combos). But I take over finishers and slower animations over these "I'm on speed"-hit rate and enemies exploding in a cloud of gore. Seriously, Hawke makes two blows per second with a huge greataxe and rogues do fancy rolls, jump attacks and whatever all the time. It looks like it was taken directly from Dragon Ball. While Inquisition fortunly toned down this a bit, I think the combat itself there is really unchallenging and somehow boring (DA2 was better in this aspect). Like I stated before, Inquistion feels like playing a not so special MMO.

[Gago]

As most of the people here have already said, DAO is awesome. I will talk about DAII more because few people talked about it.

 

It isn't really a bad game. As standalone game it is good but as a sequel to DAO it laggs behind. I will write the biggest differences between DAO and DAII. Sorry, haven't played the Inquisition yet (no cash for new PC :/).

 

The companions aren't as interesting/good as the ones in Origins. The story is taking place in one city and isn't as "grand" as DAO. You will be doing every quests in the same areas again and again during the game. You can't equip the companions with armor. The combat is more action paced and you would rarely rely on the tactical camera. As in DAInq, DAII protagonist is voiced with three personalities (sarcastic ftw). Your race is human and human only.

 

The Legacy DLC is good and so is MotA. 

Spoiler

Although my remark is that we were unable to kill Tallis. She is a Qunari spy with VERY important information.

 

I may be right or I may be wrong, but this is my opinion on the game.

[Damdil]

As most of the people here have already said, DAO is awesome. I will talk about DAII more because few people talked about it.

 

It isn't really a bad game. As standalone game it is good but as a sequel to DAO it laggs behind. I will write the biggest differences between DAO and DAII. Sorry, haven't played the Inquisition yet (no cash for new PC :/).

 

The companions aren't as interesting/good as the ones in Origins. The story is taking place in one city and isn't as "grand" as DAO. You will be doing every quests in the same areas again and again during the game. You can't equip the companions with armor. The combat is more action paced and you would rarely rely on the tactical camera. As in DAInq, DAII protagonist is voiced with three personalities (sarcastic ftw). Your race is human and human only.

 

The Legacy DLC is good and so is MotA. 

Spoiler

Although my remark is that we were unable to kill Tallis. She is a Qunari spy with VERY important information.

 

I may be right or I may be wrong, but this is my opinion on the game.

 

 

If you're playing DA2 on PC, have a look at this: http://www.nexusmods...ge2/mods/2646/?

[sjsharp2011]

I enjoyed DAO. Very good game. 
 
As a suggestion, why not view some gameplay videos on Youtube to see if its something that you might like. Or borrow the game from a friend if possible.
 
I bought the Ultimate Edition for $19.99 about 3 years ago that includes everything. The best $19.99 I spent.

Yeah that's the version I hsve

[sjsharp2011]

I know it's possible, but still annoying. For example as a warrior with the templar specialisation, I found myself constantly swichting between the final ability, which only does damage to demons, and another ability from the 2H-tree for fights with non-demon enemies. Why can't I just have all available during combat? I think it's only because of the controller handling, which limits you to have only 8 abilities for quick use.
 
Sorry, but I don't get your point. The only real differences between the combat in Origins and DA2 are optical (and DA2 has more obvious combos). But I take over finishers and slower animations over these "I'm on speed"-hit rate and enemies exploding in a cloud of gore. Seriously, Hawke makes two blows per second with a huge greataxe and rogues do fancy rolls, jump attacks and whatever all the time. It looks like it was taken directly from Dragon Ball. While Inquisition fortunly toned down this a bit, I think the combat itself there is really unchallenging and somehow boring (DA2 was better in this aspect). Like I stated before, Inquistion feels like playing a not so special MMO.

I agree that it may be just faster optically but it just feels faster and moer fluid to me which just for5 me makes it better but as I said it's just personal taste.

[ZJR12911]

I bought Inquisition 4 months back, it sat on my hdd until 2 weeks ago. Why? Because I was doing another playthrough on Origins. Started a second playthrough on DAI, stopped and guess what i'm doing now? Playing Origins. So yes Origins is a fantastic game, in my humble opinion it is still the best in the series. It has the best character development, the best story, and I think one of the best OSTs a game has ever had. Particularly the menu music. Words of warning though, there are a couple spots where, ahh nevermind, i'll let you experience them like the rest of us did

[MouseHopper]

zjr12911, although I totally agree with you regarding Origins, I'm just wondering if you were having any problems or issues with DAI?  Because I experienced pretty much the same thing that you did.  I started DAI, then stopped, started another game, started DAI again, stopped again, and started another game (this time a completely different series, the Mass Effect series).  The point is that I was just having too much difficulty and too many glitches with DAI.  I found it much less user friendly and not nearly so easy to get around as either DAO or DA2.  Without question, DAO is my favorite, but I'm still planning to go back to DAI eventually.  Just wondered what your take was on DAI overall.

[Greypaul]

I up graded to a PC from XBOX360 in time for the release of DAI I've finished it 3 times various characters and classes , I enjoyed It and had no problems at all with any snags . But as everyone else says you just can't beat DAO I purchased the ultimate edition last week for the PC and am now playing again with a few choice mods it's good to be back in Ferelden ,play it you'll see .