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[TheChosenOne]

I have a hunch you WILL pay ... perhaps not in $, but you'll pay

Nothing is free in this world. There's always a price to pay > :-)

[breakdown71289]

Nothing is free in this world. There's always a price to pay > :-)

 

But I just got free pizza today!

 

[Dermain]

There hasn't been a revolution yet, despite everything our government has done. People are too apathetic for a revolution at this point. It might happen someday, but it'll take something big to wake people up.

 

Uh...no.

 

They're not apathetic about it, they just know that if they start a revolution they'll either wake up in a Siberian gulag or massacred on the streets by the military.

[X Equestris]

Uh...no.
 
They're not apathetic about it, they just know that if they start a revolution they'll either wake up in a Siberian gulag or massacred on the streets by the military.

I'm speaking about the US, so no Siberian gulags.

[Obadiah]

People do actually enact change without the need for a full on revolution.

[X Equestris]

People do actually enact change without the need for a full on revolution.

That depends on whether or not change can actually be enacted within the system that needs changing or not.

[Obadiah]

So, thread is about one report on one US city, where systemic abuse and wrongful behavior has been documented, and change is being enacted through the law.

[X Equestris]

So, thread is about one report on one US city, where abuse and wrongful behavior has been documented, and change is being enacted through the law.

Will that change really last, though? That's the question.

[Obadiah]

Well... does anything really last?

The point is we must take more than passing cynical interest in the abuses committed us, and take an active role in our own governments. That is what these folks at the justice department are doing here. Railing against injustice is all well and good, but change only comes when you put in the work to analyse the problem and enact an institutional change capable of withstanding the bias or corruption of any single individual.

[X Equestris]

Well... does anything really last?
The point is we must take more than passing cynical interest in the abuses committed us, and take an active role in our own governments. That is what these folks at the justice department are doing here. Railing against injustice is all well and good, but change only comes when you put in the work to analyse the problem and enact an institutional change capable of withstanding the bias or corruption of any single individual.

Note that I wasn't speaking speaking about this specifically, I was responding to something else. As for this specifically, we'll see if the Justice Department actually accomplishes anything. Often they do things only because they are politically advantageous to the current administration, or because of massive political pressure.

[Dermain]

I'm speaking about the US, so no Siberian gulags.

 

For all of the talk about our Founding Father's wanting us to rebel against an oppressive government (if the US develops into one) they sure went out of their way to make it punishable by death... 

[Draining Dragon]

This thread reminds me of the time I accidentally burnt a piece of bacon.

[breakdown71289]

Tell us the truth now. Did you steal it?

 

 

 

[o Ventus]

an ass

 

I'd go for a good ass over t*tties any day tbh.

[Inquisitor Recon]

A revolution over a shooting which was justified despite the race-baiting of political activists, the clueless "reporting" of the media, the rioters and the excuses people gave for them, and the ultimately pointless and unfounded protests?

 

You'd be hard pressed to find a more idiotic reason for revolution in all of history.

 

At least the Roof Koreans got good business

[Obadiah]

A revolution over a shooting which was justified despite the race-baiting of political activists, the clueless "reporting" of the media, the rioters and the excuses people gave for them, and the ultimately pointless and unfounded protests?
 
You'd be hard pressed to find a more idiotic reason for revolution in all of history.

The report is 80 pages of systematic abuse of the entire population of Ferguson, with particular abuse to one segment due to racial bias. The protests were and are founded.

[Dermain]

The report is 80 pages of systematic abuse of the entire population of Ferguson, with particular abuse to one segment due to racial bias. The protests were and are founded.

 

The protests may have had a valid reason, but the looting, vandalism, and violence that came with them did not.

[Draining Dragon]

The protests may have had a valid reason, but the looting, vandalism, and violence that came with them did not.

Have you seen the video of that poor guy whose store got trashed by the looters?

Also, one Ferguson protest led to a patient in an ambulance dying. That's a case of manslaughter if there ever was one.

[Obadiah]

The protests may have had a valid reason, but the looting, vandalism, and violence that came with them did not.

And if you'd like to make that argument to someone oppressed and abused about how well they should behave then I invite you to do so, or even make a thread about it.

This thread is about the report, spam not withstanding.

[X Equestris]

I think I am prepared to pay the price. Though I am not sure.Fighting the government, with violence, is simply not possible today. A few guys with shotguns cannot withstand fully trained units of professional soldiers with air and armored support.And anyway, it would never come to violence. The government would shut off your electricity, and just like that the struggle is over.Really though this talk of revolution being needed is silly. The United States does not need such extreme change.

Any real shift in government would likely require a split in the military to be successful. Such a thing is of course really unlikely in the near future, and currently unnecessary.

A revolution over a shooting which was justified despite the race-baiting of political activists, the clueless "reporting" of the media, the rioters and the excuses people gave for them, and the ultimately pointless and unfounded protests?
 
You'd be hard pressed to find a more idiotic reason for revolution in all of history.
 
At least the Roof Koreans got good business

I'd certainly say that the media didn't help things. The agitators from out of state made things even worse.

[NeonFlux117]

Hopefully they disband the entire police force and hire non crazy racist crackers who want to shoot a brotha' just for the lulz.

 

Most cops in big cities are racists and hate black people

 

No one is more full of sh!t than a cop, except a cop on tv.

[Dermain]

And if you'd like to make that argument to someone oppressed and abused about how well they should behave then I invite you to do so, or even make a thread about it.

This thread is about the report, spam not withstanding.

 

Martin Luther King Jr.