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I would like to know which choices are avaible under "What was the general principle upon which the Inquisition was founded?"

"Player declared for the Inquisitor" is the only choice I have unlocked...



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I would like to know which choices are avaible under "What was the general principle upon which the Inquisition was founded?"
"Player declared for the Inquisitor" is the only choice I have unlocked...


One of the others is Faith. I don't know what the other is.
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I believe the last two under advisors are both related to Calpernia.

Operations has one tile for if the Inquisition's forces were regularly deployed, one for Sutherland, one for who your Red Jenny contact was, and one for the conclusion of the fueding families operation.

Thanks

I did the 3 of them (The Red Jenny's contact appears here)

So it's a bug i think



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Fath, Order and Themselves. I declared for mages and it gave me Inquisitor

 

The wording is wrong as well, it should say hero not player



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The 'Operations' section is completely greyed out for me on my characters. I assume it's for the war table missions? What do you need to do to actually get this to unlock?

 

I always completed all the war table missions available and they're end-game playthroughs I'm loading in the Keep.



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Same here, i think we just have to be patient :)



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I'm gonna run out of Likes! I agree with a lot of the complaints in this thread. :D

One thing I DO appreciate, though, is that (as far as I can tell) I can select any Divine I want in the Keep, regardless of major story choices I made. That will go a long way towards appeasing people who are having trouble with the Divine Election system.
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Took me a while to figure out how to get to "Playthrough States" under "World States" but once I did I was able to find the playthroughs I had completed and edit them. I was able to see much more of the tiles once I did that. :D

 

How do you do this?

 

 

 

I'm disappointed that I will have to replay the game again in order to change a couple of the choices I made. I thought one of the benefits of the Keep was that you wouldn't have to replay so many times!

 

I'm disappointed too. I left feedback saying such. Maybe they plan on keeping it locked for now and then making it open after people have had the change to play for a while?

 

 

Okay, I think I found a way to unlock the tiles. Load the save you want to put into the Keep, save, and then load your world state and edit it in the tapestry. When I did this, previously hidden tiles were revealed.

 

How do you "load a save"? And can I load more than one to unlock multiple options?



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How do you "load a save"? And can I load more than one to unlock multiple options?


So, let's say you want to put Inquisitor X into the Keep, but the options you chose are hidden. The way I unlocked options was starting up Inquisition, loading Inquisitor X's save file, and then saving again. After that, you load the world state you want to edit into the Tapestry, and see if the options unlocked. You can repeat the process for Inquisitor Y and Z, and their choices will unlock, too.

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So, let's say you want to put Inquisitor X into the Keep, but the options you chose are hidden. The way I unlocked options was starting up Inquisition, loading Inquisitor X's save file, and then saving again. After that, you load the world state you want to edit into the Tapestry, and see if the options unlocked. You can repeat the process for Inquisitor Y and Z, and their choices will unlock, too.

 

so after starting up Inquisition and saving the file, it just automatically loads into the Tapestry?



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I totally hated this hidden tiles thing, send them a feedback suggesting to at least have a setting in the keep to deactivate this feature completely.


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so after starting up Inquisition and saving the file, it just automatically loads into the Tapestry?


It should. Just don't have the Keep world state you want to change loaded before you do the save in your game. the choices won't appear until you load another world state.

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How do you do this?


When you click on "World States" the first page you see is states you created in the Keep.
There are more pages (click on the arrow on the right of the screen) and the second page is "playthrough states" which is basically data collected from your DAI choices.
I had multiple playthrough states for the same character (I'm not sure why) so it can be hard to sort through them. You can click "copy to editable" and it will move it to the first page of World States so you can put it on the Tapestry and edit it.

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This whole process is really frustrating. I think I'll wait a couple months until they've sorted more of this out.

 

EDIT: I received a Tweet from the KeepHelp

 

eOF1hGdw_reasonably_small.jpeg Dragon Age Keep 
Currently you have to have an imported save. However in the future, the spoiler gates will be removable so you can make any decision.
06:44 PM - 06 Mar 15 bg_bubble-bottom.png
 

So I'll just wait till that happens so I can edit my world state easier.


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This whole process is really frustrating. I think I'll wait a couple months until they've sorted more of this out.

 

EDIT: I received a Tweet from the KeepHelp

 

eOF1hGdw_reasonably_small.jpeg Dragon Age Keep 
Currently you have to have an imported save. However in the future, the spoiler gates will be removable so you can make any decision.
06:44 PM - 06 Mar 15 bg_bubble-bottom.png
 

So I'll just wait till that happens so I can edit my world state easier.

 

Yeah, same, right now, between syncing issues, and utterly silly things hidden behind "spoiler" tags, it's unusable to the point that it might as well not even exist, so I'll just pretend it doesn't until they make it functional.


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Yeah, same, right now, between syncing issues, and utterly silly things hidden behind "spoiler" tags, it's unusable to the point that it might as well not even exist, so I'll just pretend it doesn't until they make it functional.

 

I guess they just want to try it out and make sure it works? But I agree, right now it's "unusable to the point that it might as well not even exist."



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When you click on "World States" the first page you see is states you created in the Keep.
There are more pages (click on the arrow on the right of the screen) and the second page is "playthrough states" which is basically data collected from your DAI choices.
I had multiple playthrough states for the same character (I'm not sure why) so it can be hard to sort through them. You can click "copy to editable" and it will move it to the first page of World States so you can put it on the Tapestry and edit it.

The latest one is always called "current Playthrough" while the previous current goes to slot 1 and so on



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Fath, Order and Themselves. I declared for mages and it gave me Inquisitor

 

The wording is wrong as well, it should say hero not player

 

What does 'We will join together to defeat Corypheus' count as? Order? Or Faith? Or 'themself'? I'm almost certain that's what I picked but I only had 'faith' or 'themself' as options and I had no clue which one it was.



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What does 'We will join together to defeat Corypheus' count as? Order? Or Faith? Or 'themself'? I'm almost certain that's what I picked but I only had 'faith' or 'themself' as options and I had no clue which one it was.

Can't remember



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For the inquisition question, look here at about 2:50.

 

I guess Corypheus would be "order"? "For my own power" would be "themself" I think. The "faith" one seems obvious. But shouldn't they have a "vengeance" option too?

 

EDIT: Found it in the comments of that video. You need all three inquisition knowledge perks to get the "for order" special option.

 

EDIT2: Actually, not sure that statement is true. Looks like you just need to have constantly stated you are not the Harold and that you don't believe. You can see it in this video. It replaces the "for faith" option.

 

EDIT3: So I've gone through the whole front page of Youtube with the search "becoming the Inquisitor." No one knows what the "for order" options is because it doesn't seem like anyone has picked it! lol.



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I picked for order once because I have it unlocked, but I don't remember what the heck I chose. >.>

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I understand the desire to hide spoilers from people who haven't beaten the game yet, but this implementation is patently silly.

 

A massive part of the appeal of the Keep is the ability to play around with other choices, and see how they impact each other. Not to mention all of the beautiful art we're missing out on.

 

This isn't a huge deal, and I know it'll be solved eventually. I'm not chuffing or angry or anything. I just can't fathom why they decided to do it this way. I think a spoiler toggle would make MUCH more sense. It protects people from unwanted spoilers, but it also gives users more control.

 

A toggle switch would be really cool, IMO.  I know the main reason I wanted to have access to the Inquisition tiles was to change it so that Cassandra was Divine in my canon state; instead of Leliana.  Unfortunately, my secondary character I've been trying to make Leliana Divine; so that means I have to rush through the game with one of my pre-Skyhold characters in order to unlock the "Cass" option in the keep.  -shrug-


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I was pretty disappointed with the whole hidden tiles thing it takes away the freedom of the keep hopefully they fix it so they can choose normally cause it kinda ruined it for me



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This whole process is really frustrating. I think I'll wait a couple months until they've sorted more of this out.

 

EDIT: I received a Tweet from the KeepHelp

 

eOF1hGdw_reasonably_small.jpeg Dragon Age Keep 
Currently you have to have an imported save. However in the future, the spoiler gates will be removable so you can make any decision.
06:44 PM - 06 Mar 15 bg_bubble-bottom.png
 

So I'll just wait till that happens so I can edit my world state easier.

Sorry what does that mean?

The choices you do only sync if it's your current world state imported in dai?



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I found the order thingy!