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#101
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Hey,

 

Does anyone know what the top left tile in Exploring Thedas suppose to be? The one above rescued troops from the Avvar and investigated the dwarven ruins?

 

Thanks in advance, 

In the top left corner? That is the Temple of Solasan in Forbidden Oasis, if you reached the Inner Sanctum or not.


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In the top left corner? That is the Temple of Solasan in Forbidden Oasis, if you reached the Inner Sanctum or not.

 

That's the one, Thanks! 



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Looks like it was a bad idea. They should just unlock all tiles for everyone, like they did with previous two games. Most sections are "hidden" for me and even those few visible, don't even reflect choices. Some sections are completely hidden to me. Also, in my playthrough Blackwall's and Dorian's second quests never triggered. Hoped that in Keep I would've been able to correct that. After all the point of it was to change into desired state. If they aren't going to just unlock everything, Keep won't be useful anymore (for example, some people got wrong Divines and now they will be stuck with them).

 

One of the errors I have in my Keep, is the one regarding Vivienne's quest. I have "gave Vivienne snowy wyvern heart" tile unlocked plus "not friends with Vivienne". However, when I selected snowy heart one, "not friends with Vivienne" turns into another one, which remains hidden and vice versa. Looks like it somehow unlocked contradictory choices. Also, operations part is completely hidden, save for one tile.


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#104
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I have been having issues with this as well. I have completed the game 3 times through connected to the DA servers and it is listing most of my things about my companions & advisors as "hidden" and yet I did all of their quests prior to the end battle of the game and recruited everyone. It is also missing one of my inquisitors. It is also messing up in pretty much everywhere else as well. After seeing other people report the same issues I'm hoping that it is a glitch and that the keep is changed to function the same way as it did for DAO & DA2 because it's really annoying when you have played the game multiple times and only parts of what you have accomplished show up. Even when you have completed about 75% of the achievements on the system. 



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"Rescue soldiers from the Avvar" remains hidden although I did the quest properly. 



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Can anyone help me with the following tiles?

 

1. Under "exploring thedas", to the right of the big square tile about the Solasan temple

2. Every tile under "operations" besides the one about the red jennies with Johi and Charade. I can't seem to get any of them to trigger.



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I told Cassandra not to reform Seeker in my current playthrough, yet the tile remains hidden. 



#108
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Do not offer an alternative choice

Was Fairbanks' noble lineage revealed ?

And also closed almost all sections of the party members



#109
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How about instead of saying "Hidden" you let us see the "Inquisitor did not do ____________" so we know what we actually have to do to unlock that tile, or just give us all the tiles which was the point of The Keep to begin with, so we wouldn't have to do 50 playthroughs.



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Glitches in my Tapestry:

 

Thom Rainier left in his cell tile unlocked instead of joined the Inquisition of his own free will.

 

Iron Bull became Tal Vasoth tile unlocked instead of Iron Bull remained in the Qun

 

No tile unlocked in Fairbanks noble heritage quest despite finishing the quest and not revealing his heritage

 

No tile unlocked in the noble marriage war table missions despite finishing it and witnessing the wedding

 

No tile unlocked in what type of Inquisition we had (Operations section)

 

EDIT:
Misread the Thom Rainier tile


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#111
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Looks like it was a bad idea. They should just unlock all tiles for everyone, like they did with previous two games. Most sections are "hidden" for me and even those few visible, don't even reflect choices. Some sections are completely hidden to me. Also, in my playthrough Blackwall's and Dorian's second quests never triggered. Hoped that in Keep I would've been able to correct that. After all the point of it was to change into desired state. If they aren't going to just unlock everything, Keep won't be useful anymore (for example, some people got wrong Divines and now they will be stuck with them).

 

One of the errors I have in my Keep, is the one regarding Vivienne's quest. I have "gave Vivienne snowy wyvern heart" tile unlocked plus "not friends with Vivienne". However, when I selected snowy heart one, "not friends with Vivienne" turns into another one, which remains hidden and vice versa. Looks like it somehow unlocked contradictory choices. Also, operations part is completely hidden, save for one tile.

 

I think they're worried about spoilers for people who haven't finished or even started the game yet. But this could surely be fixed with an option to make Inquisition tiles hidden or not, no?


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#112
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I see the point of the hidden tiles but the implementation is very poor. Please give us an option to see everything and change our decisions.  Isn't that the whole point of the Keep?  

 

Is it supposed to import your DAI choices?  Mine don't reflect my playthroughs very well.  Maybe 50% right and a lot missing.  


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#113
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Is it supposed to import your DAI choices? Mine don't reflect my playthroughs very well. Maybe 50% right and a lot missing.

If you copy a play through state to the editable states, the copied state should reflect the most recently uploaded data for that char (note that some decisions appear to not unlock until a post game save). If you change a decision in game though you have to recopy it though as editable states do not auto-update.

#114
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I think they're worried about spoilers for people who haven't finished or even started the game yet. But this could surely be fixed with an option to make Inquisition tiles hidden or not, no?

True, easiest way to do it is to simply give people an option. Hidden by default, unlocked by a choice. Anyway, it's been some time since release, so those interested know what other choices are. More people are unhappy that some of their states are not properly recorded or stay hidden (despite being completed), rather than those who are getting spoiled.


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I apologize if this has already been answered. I have beat the game once and I am currently on my 2nd playthrough, however none of my inquisitors are synced and I get the message "no custom heroes found". Most of the tiles remain hidden for me as well, such as the specialization of my first inquisitor.

Any ideas?



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I apologize if this has already been answered. I have beat the game once and I am currently on my 2nd playthrough, however none of my inquisitors are synced and I get the message "no custom heroes found". Most of the tiles remain hidden for me as well, such as the specialization of my first inquisitor.

Any ideas?

Do you have any playthrough states at all? If not then you are probably either playing while not connected to the DA servers or your saves are associated with a different Origins account then what you are logging in to. If you do have playthrough states....I got no ideas.



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Okay, I think I found a way to unlock the tiles. Load the save you want to put into the Keep, save, and then load your world state and edit it in the tapestry. When I did this, previously hidden tiles were revealed.

 

That seems to do trick. Thanks.



#118
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Do you have any playthrough states at all? If not then you are probably either playing while not connected to the DA servers or your saves are associated with a different Origins account then what you are logging in to. If you do have playthrough states....I got no ideas.

 

Thank you for your answer. :) I just noticed these playthrough states. I have only a current state, where neither my Inquisitor's nor my custom Hawke's name is displayed. My first playthrough state isn't there, but that is maybe because I was playing on a different computer. 



#119
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I imported my current playthrough state, but there is still no option to use custom heroes. What am I doing wrong?



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I'm not really surprised that even with this new system there seem to be many bugs that probably resulted from a faulty game import, it's a Bioware game afterall. I completed the game with two characters (and every side quest available), yet there are still tiles that stay completely hidden and I don't mean the romance choices.

 

It would probably for the best if you could unlock all hidden stuff with a button, so that nobody gets spoilered if he/she doesn't want to, but at the same time circumvent this nonsense.



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Another funny thing I noticed is the judgements tile - for me it says that Inquisitor was a merciful judge. For example, I executed Alexius, mistress Poulin, exiled Avvar leader to Tevinter, sent Samson to be judged in Kirkwall. Maybe the Avvar one counts as somewhat merciful, but the rest of them doesn't strike me as such. Unless they consider killing someone for their crimes as mercy :P


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#122
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I still have problems with my "Operations tile". I can't even choose any options in two of them (the two on the left).

Another tile also states that Sutherland's company failed (showing an image in which two peaople seem to have died). However, I doubt anybody was killed, since I decided not to send them on a risky mission.


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#123
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I still have problems with my "Operations tile". I can't even choose any options in two of them (the two on the left).

Another tile also states that Sutherland's company failed (showing an image in which two peaople seem to have died). However, I doubt anybody was killed, since I decided not to send them on a risky mission.

My entire Operations section is locked. Has there been any official feedback about the bugs yet?



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Yet one more vote for can we not have the spoiler gating? I can deal with some bugs but this is seriously about the most annoying mechanic imaginable.

 

The majority of my choices from my completed playthrough are hidden from me - I get that it's a glitch, but it seems like an entirely unnecessary thing to have glitching out. I'm a grownup; I can decide whether to read spoilers or not. I don't need the Keep babysitting me, and I'm frustrated that my playthrough isn't at all usable seemingly because of the babysitting attempt.

 

My other irritation about it is that I wanted to use the Keep to make one simple change to a playthrough that's otherwise exactly what I want to keep. What the options are was made clear in the game itself, so it can't possibly be construed as a spoiler. I didn't get the outcome I was trying for, so I just wanted to fix it and keep the rest of that world state. But... that is apparently not allowed anymore?

 

I really like the Keep. I like the flexibility it offers, and the ability to tweak my playthroughs without completely starting over when a detail doesn't go my way. This spoiler gating, though... honestly pretty much renders it useless for me. I have no issue remembering my choices; I want to be able to change them. I'll have future playthroughs, but I want to be able to just play them without worrying about getting an outcome unlocked for an entirely different playthrough.

 

Can I just decide for myself what I do and don't want to see? Please? This is the opposite of fun and functional. Sorry to be a downer but I was really looking forward to the Inquisition tiles, which I now mostly can't see or use, so this is very disappointing. :(


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#125
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My other irritation about it is that I wanted to use the Keep to make one simple change to a playthrough that's otherwise exactly what I want to keep.....  I didn't get the outcome I was trying for, so I just wanted to fix it and keep the rest of that world state. But... that is apparently not allowed anymore?

 

I think most of the BSN assumes the keep will do something it wasnt designed for. You wont be able to change anything in the keep and have that reflect in your current playthrough in DAI.

Now if your talking about changing a choice you made for future DA games then that is another topic. Changing a choice just so it will be what you want when you load a world state into DA4 (hopefully it will be made) is all the keep was really designed for. To be able to view your world states and change them for importing into a "new" game, whether it is DA:I or DA4 and beyond.

I personally would love to change the fact that I never told Cassandra to be divine in my first "default canon" playthrough. When I finished the game and saw that leliana will rule with an iron fist and make huge changes. That wasnt what i wanted. But i know changing that in the keep wont affect anything until I load up my world state in DA4 or any other game that utilizes the Keep.

 

Hope I explained that clearly enough to be understood.