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[Chealec]

I get bored soling gold and just want to run, punch and headbutt all the things by about wave 4 - by wave 8 I'm generally thinking "for the love of all the gods, when the hell does it end?!!?" - so yeah, I've never got beyond wave 6 on platinum (only tried twice with a SmashDept); ergo, platinum is harder to solo even if the main reason is my inability to stop playing like a Krogan even when I'm not playing a Krogan :|

[Terminator Force]

I guess I better finally do the solo challenges and find out... I normally hate soloing due to dead pugs. Why the solo challenge is the only one left. I did do a Gold solo with no one joining, but it still didn't mark it as a solo, but I always knew I could solo Gold np (backpack Yoda pugs trained me well, lol). Plat I never tried outside of the typical wave clean ups every now and then.

[Alfonsedode]

as smehur said too, on plat, the ai is more agressive and deal more damage per shot

[Sir Jessku]

It's about the same as 4 manning a bronze match.

[NuclearTech76]

as smehur said too, on plat, the ai is more agressive and deal more damage per shot

Drones and prime turrets become a big old pain in the ass as well. Gold Geth is the easiest faction to solo and it's really not that difficult at all, Plat Geth is a whole other story. Plat Geth wave two is a circumcision with a piece of glass if you don't rocket.

[DisturbedPsic0]

The "hardest" part about soloing Platinum is that you can just run from spawn to spawn and wipe it out like in Gold. You have to be more defensive, and you can get pushed out of your spot pretty quickly, especially by Banshees. I consider Platinum to be a longer solo, not necessarily a harder one, which is why I don't do them. The few I've done have been over an hour, and I'd rather play 2 or 3 gold games instead in a team game. 

[rlro]

I think it is much harder than gold mainly because there are several (and different) sync-kill enable enemies at all times, so when you are running from a Banshee, for instance, you may be stabbed by a hidden phantom.

 

Also, since it lasts longer, there are also more chances of getting sync-killed.

 

I took me several attempts before completing a Platinum solo, not because I died normally, but due to ending up being sync-killed on waves 7-9 

[Lux Caelum]

No it is not. It's just more annoying since you have to fight all broken opponents at the same time.

My biggest enemy is my low FPS (starts on ~50, ends up on ~20) with laptop that burn my hands. It means that I need more time to kill stuff.

IMO, worst thing that can happen on plat is getting down since it usually takes a few medi-gels and a rocket to get up.

[David Diablo]

Once you know how to solo VERY WELL, both are pretty easily achievable. BUT whereas with gold it's just a doddle about how you complete it, how fast you want to complete, do you want to go for 10 waves survived etc., platinum forces you to grind out waves, enemies hit harder, and as Nuke said, the shit can hit the fan much quicker on platinum, especially on certain killer waves. Nothing on gold will compare to the pain of soloing wave 9 geth on platinum... 

 

99.9% of players aren't the quickest of soloers, so platinum solos will usually take twice as long at the very least. So yeah, platinum solos are much harder than gold, mainly on the account of gold solos being easy and a lot more space for things to go wrong on platinum solos. On a personal note, I can't believe people are still making comparisons between the two... 

[NuclearTech76]

Once you know how to solo VERY WELL, both are pretty easily achievable. BUT whereas with gold it's just a doddle about how you complete it, how fast you want to complete, do you want to go for 10 waves survived etc., platinum forces you to grind out waves, enemies hit harder, and as Nuke said, the **** can hit the fan much quicker on platinum, especially on certain killer waves. Nothing on gold will compare to the pain of soloing wave 9 geth on platinum... 

 

99.9% of players aren't the quickest of soloers, so platinum solos will usually take twice as long at the very least. So yeah, platinum solos are much harder than gold, mainly on the account of gold solos being easy and a lot more space for things to go wrong on platinum solos. On a personal note, I can't believe people are still making comparisons between the two... 

Yeah the length of the time invested is a real punch to the scrotum as well. I can generally solo Gold in thirty minutes or so, hell even if I fail it's a little longer than a routine pickup game on gold generally. Platinum is an hour or over minimum for me personally unless we're talking the most OP setup. Failing it on wave nine or ten is ****** annoying to say the least. You fail twice and generally it's to something BS in the game on Plat and it's annoying enough to turn the console off. 

[TheTechnoTurian]

When I first soloed platinum it was much harder than gold. My first ever platinum was with asari vanguard, and I was immediately struck by the fact that bosses take so goddamn long to take down, there are more of them, and my main damage output (lift grenades) felt gimped because it could no longer basically one-shot huge enemy clusters like on gold. Not to mention the increased time investment made redoing it after failures extremely exhausting. I can't even sit for more than about forty minutes at a time anyway. 

 

That aside, gold is fun, platinum isn't actually all that fun. It is easier to do fun things than things that are not that fun.  

[Quarian Master Race]

It's harder in the sense that a high DPS setup is almost required unless you want to spend over an hour, and more time= more room for mistakes. You can do a gold solo with pretty much anything rather quickly because slaughtering hordes of mooks/sub bosses and ignoring the banshee/prime/praetorian/atlas is something you can do with any kit.

If you bring an OP kit to a plat solo, there's not a huge difference except the larger wave budgets and bosses taking an extra second or so to die upping the time on the ensuing ROFLstomp. Oh, and you always have to have an anti phantom tool of some sort, which is annoying but not necessarily difficult.

There is one exception for PS3 players, and that is a Collector plat solo. It's not because of the difficulty (indeed, plat Collectors are probably joint easiest with Reapers), but because it is impossible to play for 30+ minutes against them without a hard freeze. An added difficulty is that you will need a new PS3 after you rage-smash your current one when you get a w11 Collectroll freeze.

[VladImpalerIII]

Yes, it's harder.  One thing I'd add is I loved soloing for a very long time.  But doing Plat solo's burned me out on this game more than anything else.  Multiple and quick (12 minutes or so) Plats with a team also became very unsatisfying.  I took more than a year off, and then started a new account and just played silver and occasionally gold and found the fun again with a much more relaxed game.  I did do one more successful Plat solo with the new account for the lutz but for me that need is gone.  While I think it's a good accomplishment for anyone wanting to experience all the game has to offer, the frustration doing these (as the failure rate will likely be high) can make one hate this game.

[Miniditka77]

I get bored soling gold and just want to run, punch and headbutt all the things by about wave 4 - by wave 8 I'm generally thinking "for the love of all the gods, when the hell does it end?!!?" - so yeah, I've never got beyond wave 6 on platinum (only tried twice with a SmashDept); ergo, platinum is harder to solo even if the main reason is my inability to stop playing like a Krogan even when I'm not playing a Krogan :|

 

This is my thing too.  I just find solos sooooo boring.  Honestly, the solos that I have failed have mostly been because I got bored and impatient and took risks that I shouldn't have.  Trying to get a couple of extra kills before I checked my flank, only to find a Phantom or Dragoon snuck up behind me, lingering a little too long to get a couple of extra kills and having a Banshee sync me, etc.  I did my 2 Gold solos, and I don't think I'll ever try another solo again.  Maybe someday I'll try a Platinum solo, but probably not.

[cato potato]

There is one exception for PS3 players, and that is a Collector plat solo. It's not because of the difficulty (indeed, plat Collectors are probably joint easiest with Reapers), but because it is impossible to play for 30+ minutes against them without a hard freeze. An added difficulty is that you will need a new PS3 after you rage-smash your current one when you get a w11 Collectroll freeze.

 

I've done 18 Collector solos and they were all longer than half an hour, that's for sure. In my experience, plat solos against Collectors are far less likely to crash than full team games against them, particularly on gold.

[cato potato]

I miss your tips cato, wld U have one for me ?

 

Prove you're not a threat to that worried person in front of you in the ATM queue by gently kissing them on the neck. 

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Too hard for me, and by "hard," I mean "boring" and "stupid" rolled into one.

 

Forty minutes or an hour is a lot of time to be playing a game, especially one where my progress may be null and void. I refuse to use exploits like glitch-hacking and pizza-running, which absolutely complicates matters and makes the objective waves (the real challenge for me) into total crapshoots. I hate crapshoots. The old "luck-based mission" is the thing that I despise more than anything else in gaming, and since solos are very much luck-based, I dislike them. On gold, it's not an issue because there's not enough cheap bosses to complicate things. There's only so many phantoms or banshees, who I can avoid pretty easily, but on platinum, not so. Can't carry the pizza with Phantoms shooting at me from across the map and banshees jumping 10 meters and going through walls.

 

I could just take a TGI, AIU or similar OP kit and use their ridiculous abilities, but that's kind of a problem, because then there's no drama whatsoever. The game becomes a bore. An hour of kiting and such, even if successful, is incredibly dull. I can barely manage to play a whole game as a Kroguard on gold geth. Even with something not cheap, I get bored. I was playing a BatSol gold solo a couple days ago and quit on wave 7 because I wanted to do something else.

 

To me, playing DAO or Skyrim or something similar is infinitely more interesting than "kite cheap boss, pew pew, kite next cheap boss, pew pew." And that is why I don't solo.

 

Platinum duos on the other hand are loads of fun and I love them. Most however do not enjoy these.

[cato potato]

I could just take a TGI, AIU or similar OP kit and use their ridiculous abilities, but that's kind of a problem, because then there's no drama whatsoever. The game becomes a bore. 

 

No drama? Try soloing Geth/Condor, Collectors/Jade or Geth/Dagger Hazard with either of those kits (or any kit) and then tell me there was no drama.

[StoxRegalia]

Where is zae when you need him??

[Dunmer of Redoran]

No drama? Try soloing Geth/Condor, Collectors/Jade or Geth/Dagger Hazard with either of those kits (or any kit) and then tell me there was no drama.

 

If I don't get dropped, I'm more or less standing in a couple of places, using the soft cover, rinsing and repeating, for over an hour. Oh good, something drops me out of nowhere through no fault of my own. I get to start over and spend another hour or more!

 

 

Sometimes I play Skyrim and I do something stupid: I go for 45 minutes or more and forget to save my game, and then encounter an unfortunate glitch or maybe the game just decides to CTD. I get to start over. What does that mean? Buying iron ore, transmuting it all to silver and gold, smelting them and then making them into rings, going to my house, gathering my alchemy ingredients, making potions, selling them, enchanting gold and silver rings with common and lesser soul gems, selling them, tempering my gear, trading inventory with my follower, going back to the house, putting excess items in the chest, getting on my horse, going from Whiterun to Riften, and on my way, a Cave Bear attacks the people of Ivarstead and kills half the town, which in my game rules, requires a reload since civilians in my game can't die.

 

All that progress, all that grinding? GONE. I have to do it all over again. All this boring mundane stuff. All of it.

 

 

That's essentially what a platinum solo is like for me. What's really hard about it is that it's boring, and if I fail, it's through a fluke, and that fluke means I have to do it all over again, the most mundane kind of grind imaginable.

[Caineghis2500]

Ahhhh the nostalgia

[cato potato]

If I don't get dropped, I'm more or less standing in a couple of places, using the soft cover, rinsing and repeating, for over an hour. Oh good, something drops me out of nowhere through no fault of my own. I get to start over and spend another hour or more!

 

 

Sometimes I play Skyrim and I do something stupid: I go for 45 minutes or more and forget to save my game, and then encounter an unfortunate glitch or maybe the game just decides to CTD. I get to start over. What does that mean? Buying iron ore, transmuting it all to silver and gold, smelting them and then making them into rings, going to my house, gathering my alchemy ingredients, making potions, selling them, enchanting gold and silver rings with common and lesser soul gems, selling them, tempering my gear, trading inventory with my follower, going back to the house, putting excess items in the chest, getting on my horse, going from Whiterun to Riften, and on my way, a Cave Bear attacks the people of Ivarstead and kills half the town, which in my game rules, requires a reload since civilians in my game can't die.

 

All that progress, all that grinding? GONE. I have to do it all over again. All this boring mundane stuff. All of it.

 

 

That's essentially what a platinum solo is like for me. What's really hard about it is that it's boring, and if I fail, it's through a fluke, and that fluke means I have to do it all over again, the most mundane kind of grind imaginable.

 

Have you done any platinum solos? Have you done any on the more difficult map/enemy combos? You might find them boring but you first sentence is a really poor description of almost any (non-Giant) platinum solo I've ever seen or done. And it's a little hard to take you seriously when, apparently, the only time you fail is through a fluke.

[Caineghis2500]

If you aren't a speedrun expert then solos will take some time especially platinum.

There are many ways people enjoy solos. Some like speedrunning them with easy enemies and small maps because of the satisfaction of fast completions.. Others prefer to do them at a normal pace with moderate concentration.

Others... myself included take the masochistic approach like jade geth, glacier geth, and condor geth where completion is it's own reward... The most difficult plat solo I've ever completed was Geth Hazard Glacier with the T-SENT..

I've retired long ago though but it was sure a fun career lol

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Have you done any platinum solos? Have you done any on the more difficult map/enemy combos? You might find them boring but you first sentence is a really poor description of almost any (non-Giant) platinum solo I've ever seen or done. And it's a little hard to take you seriously when, apparently, the only time you fail is through a fluke.

Giant, White and Glacier certainly work that way. I think my favorites are Reactor and Goddess, though the furthest I go is about wave 7 when I just get tired of the constant kiting. At that point, it's been about 30-40 minutes and I just can't deal with it anymore.

[BeardyMcGoo]

That aside, gold is fun, platinum isn't actually all that fun. It is easier to do fun things than things that are not that fun.  

 

So much this.