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[Warden Commander Aeducan]

A fairly predictable choice, but I've never used a default Bioware hero so this doesn't affect me.

Same here, and I've never used a default BioWare hero nor consider default hero and world state (my) canon anyway.

 

[AWTEW]

Same here, and I've never used a default BioWare hero nor consider default hero and world state (my) canon anyway.

 

 

Default> your cannon

 

*runs*

[Farangbaa]

I think all great stories have struggles but there is a such thing as a limit. I think the elf lead worked for DAO because
 
GWs take anyone
The Protag was being hunted and generally unaccepted
GW treaties bound people to aid the GWs not an Elf
 
In Inquisition, having everyone drop to their knees for an Elf, Qunari, Dwarf, and even Mage and proclaim them the Herald of their Jesus is just  .
 
The way DAI was written makes a default non human semi noble PC ridiculous.
 
At least with a human Mage I have some slight wiggle room but overall I would have preferred more adversity.

But only you have the Mark. You are the only one who can actually do something about this whole mess.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I don't use them either, but for some reason, I still care.

Nah, they can have their default while I'm enjoying my own canon. To each his own I suppose, but I don't see BioWare's default dismiss player's canon.

 

 

Default> your cannon

 

*runs*

Meh.

 

If BioWare's saying Default > Player Canon then you'd better expect half the BSN rioting.

[TheRatPack55]

But only you have the Mark. You are the only one who can actually do something about this whole mess.

 

Sure, but a non-human noble should logically be put in chains and dragged around on a leash to have their hand stuck into rifts. Cassandra would lead the Inquisition, and people would flock to her, as the faithful one out to avenge the Divine and save the world.

 

The masses, with all their bias and hate against mages, elves and Qunari, should only believe in a human noble Herald of Andraste. Everyone else should just be seen as the monster who obviously caused the breach.

[Hazegurl]

If we go strictly by what DAI was written as, even Human Noble has its share of problems. But the DA games have always had this idea of "The Maker sent you" no matter who you were. In DAO you got that told to you for your decisions, while Elthina hammered it home if you confront her on it (even saying "Even a Dwarf", to which Varric responds snarkily).

True, the PC is always the special snowflake exception to the rules.  However, the narrative works based on how well they can sell that and in DAI they don't do a good job.

 

The kind words of a Cleric means nothing when the organization does not reflect the sentiment.  Varric is not welcomed in the Chantry because he is simply not welcomed by the many individuals who make up that organization.  It's like stamping "Equal opportunity" on a members only golf club that will almost never approve the membership of nonwhites.

 

Let's not even talk about the fact that a pack of Qunari were rampaging a city just a few years before DAI, murdered nobles, and chopped off the Viscount's head. Yet an organization with a Qunari Leader is gaining noble support and humans are willingly bending a knee. Not buying it BW. lol!

 

Basically a non human and Mage PC have the same "struggle" as a human noble. Lame

 

 

Yes. But alas, race/class in Inquisition is cosmetic, despite being sth that lore-wise should be a huge issue. This has been said many times. I understand BioWare's desire to limit choices with drastically different and complicated outcomes in order to make creating the next game at all possible, but it rather diminishes the appeal of DA as a franchise which, well, allows you to make world-altering choices with drastically different and complicated outcomes...

 

Who plays with default heroes anyway. Diplo!Hawke, eeeewwww.

I understand class being cosmetic but I don't think race should be. Not in a world with the type of prejudices DA has. If I pick an Elf, I want to experience that world as an Elf, not a human in Elf skin.  But yeah the default heroes and world states are always meh. If BW games were 100% linear I would never play them.

[Kinsz]

Human Male made more sense IMO, Bioware should have just suck with the hero from the trailers, im guessing that was the initial plan but as always they are scared shitless of the SJWs.

[Hazegurl]

But only you have the Mark. You are the only one who can actually do something about this whole mess.

That doesn't mean people will forget over a thousand years of prejudices just to worship you. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

This is predictable, though, ultimately it does not matter. 

[Farangbaa]

Human Male made more sense IMO, Bioware should have just suck with the hero from the trailers, im guessing that was the initial plan but as always they are scared shitless of the SJWs.

Yes, I can hear the angry Qunari already.

Loldaf.


Btw, if anything, human female would've made the most sense, in the world of Thedas.
 

Sure, but a non-human noble should logically be put in chains and dragged around on a leash to have their hand stuck into rifts. Cassandra would lead the Inquisition, and people would flock to her, as the faithful one out to avenge the Divine and save the world.
 
The masses, with all their bias and hate against mages, elves and Qunari, should only believe in a human noble Herald of Andraste. Everyone else should just be seen as the monster who obviously caused the breach.

Probably, but that wouldn't be a very fun game.

[ThreeF]

Probably, but that wouldn't be a very fun game.

hmm... not sure, people say they  like playing the underdog.

 

It is seldom done in games too, the closest I can think of is NWN SoU Act 2

[Richiesdisplayname]

I've never played female in DAI so I didn't know. Is the default Inquisitor's name SERIOUSLY Evelyn Trevelyan for human? That's awesome. It's Marcy Darcy all over again, in Dragon Age form!

[TheRatPack55]

Yes, I can hear the angry Qunari already.

Loldaf.


Btw, if anything, human female would've made the most sense, in the world of Thedas.
 

Probably, but that wouldn't be a very fun game.

 

Yep. Which is why, imo, they should have stuck to human Inquisitors, or written a different story. But I know ppl here love their race options, and I don't begrudge them their fun, I just don't enjoy playing anyone other than human IQs very much, because they make so little sense.

[AWTEW]

Nah, they can have their default while I'm enjoying my own canon. To each his own I suppose, but I don't see BioWare's default dismiss player's canon.

 

 

Meh.

 

If BioWare's saying Default > Player Canon then you'd better expect half the BSN rioting.

 

Or a collosol meltdown

Human Male made more sense IMO, Bioware should have just suck with the hero from the trailers, im guessing that was the initial plan but as always they are scared shitless of the SJWs.

 

*sigh* They did no such thing.  And if trailers were 'fact' then Hawke would be female, since she was the one who appeared in the premiere trailer..

 

If they had used the same gender twice in a row, either way they would be seen as 'sexist'. sO they have gone the logical way

 

Female,then male,then female, and DA4 will be male again.

 

It's very simple...

[TheRatPack55]

Human Male made more sense IMO, Bioware should have just suck with the hero from the trailers, im guessing that was the initial plan but as always they are scared shitless of the SJWs.

 

Now this is just errorenous. The Andrastian faith is all about females as prominent religious figures.

[Kinsz]

Or a collosol meltdown

 

*sigh* They did no such thing.  And if trailers were 'fact' then Hawke would be female, since she was the one who appeared in the premiere trailer..

 

If they had used the same gender twice in a row, either way they would be seen as 'sexist'. sO they have gone the logical way

 

Female,then male,then female, and DA4 will be male again.

 

It's very simple...

mind linking that DA2 trailer you are referring to ? the main DA2 trailer i know of features Male Hawke fighting the Arishok.

 

you are pretty much saying the same thing i said in the bolded part of your post, just worded it differently so i question the necessity of your reply.

[Kinsz]

Now this is just errorenous. The Andrastian faith is all about females as prominent religious figures.

im aware of that but Male IQ made more sense to me here, the fact that you cant be made Divine or even run for the position backs my assumption, dont get me wrong though i am in no way crying over this ( its not a big deal ), this is merely......an observation on my part, nothing more  

[AWTEW]

mind linking that DA2 trailer you are referring to ? the main DA2 i know of features Male Hawke fighting the Arishok.

 

you are pretty much saying the same thing i said in the bolded part of your post, just worded it differently so i question the necessity of your reply.

 

 

1.37

 

Warden Allistar and FHawke.

 

No, I'm not. They are following a pattern its pretty obvious..

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

I don't use them either, but for some reason, I still care.

 

 

It's just another thing to analyze, i guess.

 

I do think the default DA world states helps hint at what direction Bioware wants to push the story, which is why I think they're still interesting to look at even if I dislike them.

[KennethAFTopp]

does not matter.