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[erikdlan]

First time I finished Origins, before DAA existed, I had an idea inspired by the dark ritual thing. I was sure back then that they would continue to have origin stories for future Dragon Age games. I thought a cool possibility for future games would be playing as the son/daughter of one of the companions, even without the Warden as the other parent. Obvious candidates for father/mother for this idea were Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran and Leliana, but dwarves or qunari could be accessible through Oghren or Sten. We could even see a cameo of our companion in the prologue story in the role of our character's dad or mom.

Nowadays I'm quite sure such an idea or another similar one will never be made in this franchise. Devs had said they won't do more origins prologues and I don't think they could be interested in having a main character that could be the son or the daughter of some past main character, or a potential LI companion. It could be seen as having a romance able to give children is the better way to play, and it would be quite controversial for people who plays with lesbian or gay characters, or even people uninterested in romances, or the idea that a romances can bring that kind of consequences.  

However Dragon Age is about the Age of the Dragon and babies happen even without dark rituals (the rituals involved are not always dark or magical). Ten years have past in Thedas after Origins. Potentially future games could be further in the future, maybe even about ten years after the events of DA:I, when potential heirs of our companions in DAO, DAA or DA2 will be teenagers or young adults. So I wonder, would you be interested in having the son or the daughter of other companion in a past game, as a future game companion? I would gladly have Oghren's child as a companion, for example.

[Kantr]

Where have they said they won't do more origins?

[erikdlan]

I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but I don't have any link. I will look for it when I have more time.  I can be wrong and I would gladly stand corrected because I loved origin stories.

 

But even with origin stories in future Dragon Age games, I'm quite sure they won't have a main character that is the potential son or daughter of a past main character, for the reasons I already said and so I think my old idea will never be done in this franchise.

 

I like the concept of characters that overcome the shadow of their heroic fathers to become heroes on their own merits, that's why I think it would be interesting to have a companion with such a background, or something similar. I mentioned Oghren's son because it's canon, but other suggestions would be welcome. Kieran would be an interesting companion for me too, but he's a possibility, not a canon fact.

[Rekkampum]

I'm quite sure I read it somewhere, but I don't have any link. I will look for it when I have more time.  I can be wrong and I would gladly stand corrected because I loved origin stories.

 

But even with origin stories in future Dragon Age games, I'm quite sure they won't have a main character that is the potential son or daughter of a past main character, for the reasons I already said and so I think my old idea will never be done in this franchise.

 

I like the concept of characters that overcome the shadow of their heroic fathers to become heroes on their own merits, that's why I think it would be interesting to have a companion with such a background, or something similar. I mentioned Oghren's son because it's canon, but other suggestions would be welcome. Kieran would be an interesting companion for me too, but he's a possibility, not a canon fact.

 

TIME MAGIC! There. Problem solved.

[Frybread76]

Keiran returning is an extremely low possibility, partly because the default DA universe has a female Dalish Warden. Other factors include a male Warden denying the dark ritual and, even if he exists, Keiran losing the OG soul to Flemeth and becoming a normal boy. Too many factors, IMO, would prevent Bioware from devoting resources to bringing him back as a party member.

[Icy Magebane]

It sounds weird unless they skip ahead into the far, far future for the next couple of installments... I'm not even going to assume that this franchise is going past the 5 game mark, since I haven't heard anything to suggest that, so I really don't see this happening.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think having the children of previous companions be new companions is feasible. There are too many variables going against it, like "Were they in a romance?", "Were they killed?", etc.

[vertigomez]

Being the kid of an unromanceable companion would be cool.

Or maybe I just want Oghren to be my grandpa.

[erikdlan]

It sounds weird unless they skip ahead into the far, far future for the next couple of installments... I'm not even going to assume that this franchise is going past the 5 game mark, since I haven't heard anything to suggest that, so I really don't see this happening.

If this saga is about Thedas in the Dragon Age ten more years is not so far away.

I don't think having the children of previous companions be new companions is feasible. There are too many variables going against it, like "Were they in a romance?", "Were they killed?", etc.

Good point if we are talking about Kieran or potential children of other romanceable companions, but Oghren's child is canon and there are companions that can perfectly have babies, Aveline comes to my mind if we look further in the future. We also have companions that could have children before the games. I haven't read Asunder but Rhys is the son of Wynne, isn't he?

Being the kid of an unromanceable companion would be cool.
Or maybe I just want Oghren to be my grandpa.

It would work for me too, and it would give me immediate emotional connection, but I understand some people wouldn't like it. And I think it's the kind of spice that shouldn't be abused or else the food would be ruined. A group completely made of the sons or daughters of former heroes would be quite absurd even for my crazy mind.

[Dragonzzilla]

No happy ending for you.

[Icy Magebane]

You know, the other thing that I don't like about this idea is that it makes the world seem even smaller than the constant parade of cameos already does.  We already have to deal with returning party members and cameos by the friends of past protagonists.  Designing the overarching plot of Thedas such that the descendants of previously encountered heroes are at the forefront of the next generation is going too far IMO.  If the basic principle behind the series is telling the story of Thedas, I think it's important to limit appearances by specific individuals (and their bloodlines/extended families...) so that we get to see the broad view of the world that the writers originally claimed was their intention...

 

I wouldn't mind it if the series had never been about Thedas and instead was always meant to have this kind of narrow focus, but that just isn't the case.

 

edit:  changed some of the wording here...

[erikdlan]

No happy ending for you.

I'm not trying to talk about happy endings for our characters/companions. Having babies is a reality of life that can be present in very unhappy situations. I'm using Oghren's baby in this discussion because it's canon. Now imagine somehow this ideas are used in a future game, for example, imagine we find Oghren's son as a companion in a future game. Once we can know him well enough he tells us a very tragic story: he tells us he hated his father and he killed him, or he tells us how sad was for him to watch Oghren leave to fullfill the Calling. Yeah, hypotetically he can tell us he had a very happy childhood, that he loved his father and he wants to be a great hero like him, just to make Oghren proud, but in this speculative discussion it could be the other way around.

 

 

You know, the other thing that I don't like about this idea is that it makes the world seem even smaller than the constant parade of cameos already does.  We already have to deal with returning party members and cameos by the friends of past protagonists.  Designing the overarching plot of Thedas such that the descendants of previously encountered heroes are at the forefront of the next generation is going too far IMO.  If the basic principle behind the series is telling the story of Thedas, I think it's important to limit appearances by specific individuals (and their bloodlines/extended families...) so that we get to see the broad view of the world that the writers originally claimed was their intention...

 

I wouldn't mind it if the series had never been about Thedas and instead was always meant to have this kind of narrow focus, but that just isn't the case.

 

edit:  changed some of the wording here...

 

That is a very valid point. I understand the necessity to limit the appearences of specific individuals in order to keep the world beliavable. On the other hand mentioning or making appear the sons of known characters shows the pass of time in an emotional way.

 

My point is that, for me, having Oghren's son, or Rhys, or other companion's potential heirs as companions (or even as main characters if it was done in a way we could customize them) in future games would be very interesting and would help me find an emotional connection with them. But I understand your point and I understand you could dislike it.

[Icy Magebane]

That is a very valid point. I understand the necessity to limit the appearences of specific individuals in order to keep the world beliavable. On the other hand mentioning or making appear the sons of known characters shows the pass of time in an emotional way.

 

My point is that, for me, having Oghren's son, or Rhys, or other companion's potential heirs as companions (or even as main characters if it was done in a way we could customize them) in future games would be very interesting and would help me find an emotional connection with them. But I understand your point and I understand you could dislike it.

Well, I can't deny that there is some emotional value to be found in such appearances... I tell you what... if Bioware manages to go one game without a cameo from some previously seen hero or side-character, then I'd be more than fine with Oghren's son (or someone similar) showing up in the game after that (assuming enough time has passed for him to be an adult, etc).  The type of situation you are asking for would not be so objectionable to me if it wasn't so prevalent in the series and contradictory to the premise that they originally said they were attempting to follow.  If they took a break from cameos for at least a little while, that might give us a chance to experience a fresh look at Thedas, which would in turn make the nostalgia of traveling with a former character's descendant more effective... well, to me at least.  I know that some people want to see the same handful of returning characters in every game... that's fine, but I think it's more appropriate for a different series.