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[Cobwebmaster]

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Believe me. I have done what I can. Except buying a completely new PC.
I'm not poor or a Scrooge, but it is only a year old, so I have the idea I might use it a bit longer.

I have no problems with any other game. I played Mass Effect, Tombraider 2013, heavy modded Skyrim, The Witcher 2, and a couple more. It'sonly Dragon Age Inquisition that crashes.
I've done everything I can imagine. Added command strings, game settings, checked drivers, repaired and reinstalled DAI, run performance checks, whatever you can imagine.
The isssue is not unknown, despite that many of you haven't heard of it. Bioware is working on the problem together with Microsoft they say.

It's just that the game is more than three month old, and it annoys me a bit that they release several patches that doesn't fix this. I think it would be nice to be able to play the entire game in full. It is beautiful made after all. And I would like to get the full story and the experience of the characters they made for us. And, well, as a more personal and egoistic side I'd like to be able to make the choices I feel is right.

No, naturally I ended being bored with collecting all the time. I don't like cheating either. Of obvious reasons. But I just can't be arsed to collect thousands of herbs, cloths and metals every time I start a new game. I'm born with a patient nature. But enough is enough. You spend more than half the game collecting. I want the story.

In Denmark we have a writer that some of you might have heard of. Her name is Karen Blixen. She wrote Seven Gothic Tales and one of her novels inspired Sidney Pollack to make the movie 'Out of Africa'. It had Merryl Streep and Robert Redford in the main roles.
The movie starts with a view where you fly above Africa. You see the savannas, the wildlife, the mountains and the skies. And very quietly Karen Blixen starts to speak:

"...But I've gone ahead of my story. He'd have hated that - Denys loved to hear a story told well. You see, I had a farm in Africa at the foot of the Ngong Hills."

And that's what is it all about. A story told well. I miss that.

This is weird! Melissa GT has a high system spec while mine is low. My graphics card is only a NVIDIA 650Ti, but neither of us are experiencing the problems to the degree that you seem to have. Even with 8Gb DDR2 memory my machine is pretty much at entry level these days for games like DAI. I get great colours on the Dragons but again I heard that DAI was getting lots of negative feedback from some NVIDIA card users. The only thing I did notice was when I let NVIDIA's (sorry again not wishing to derail the thread also) GeForce Experience optimise my game settings on DAI the graphics sucked at 640 x 480 so I let the cardf and the software work it out for itself. I don't always get the best graphics and smooth gameplay but it works fine. I always use a refresh rate of 60Hz which works ok for my 24" widescreen. The problem is not yours I think but one for Bioware/EA to resolve. Have you thrown it at them? 
 

[warblewobble]

When I got to the dragon that was sleeping I actually walked right up to it and just...froze. I just sat there staring at it on my screen, unable to bring myself to attack a poor creature that was just minding its business and taking a nap. If it hadn't woken up on its own I might have just stood there indefinitely.

 

Yes, they're amazing creatures and I feel a little bad for killing them. However, my priorities as a gamer will always win out in the end. I've literally played games where I'm slaughtering innocent animals and apologizing to the screen because I just need those crafting materials to make myself a better piece of armor / get a health upgrade / increase my carrying capacity.

[Excella Gionne]

I wish they'd respawn.

[Cobwebmaster]

Nope! I have tried, and the dragon made barbecue out of me. 

 

That one, sadly, has to die if you want the ocularium. 

 ^Thanks I guess I'll just have to make it an ex dragon then!! Gimmee that loot!

[Mushashi7]

This is weird! Melissa GT has a high system spec while mine is low. My graphics card is only a NVIDIA 650Ti, but neither of us are experiencing the problems to the degree that you seem to have. Even with 8Gb DDR2 memory my machine is pretty much at entry level these days for games like DAI. I get great colours on the Dragons but again I heard that DAI was getting lots of negative feedback from some NVIDIA card users. The only thing I did notice was when I let NVIDIA's (sorry again not wishing to derail the thread also) GeForce Experience optimise my game settings on DAI the graphics sucked at 640 x 480 so I let the cardf and the software work it out for itself. I don't always get the best graphics and smooth gameplay but it works fine. I always use a refresh rate of 60Hz which works ok for my 24" widescreen. The problem is not yours I think but one for Bioware/EA to resolve. Have you thrown it at them? 
 

 

That command string will only unlock the 30fps cap on cutscenes. I can play the game with or without it with no problem. I generally use it because cutscenes will run more smoothly. However, I have to remove it when I create a character because if I don't I will end up stuck in an inescapable wasteland after the CC cutscene. It's a known issue. After I finish the opening cutscene I can add the command back in.

 

If I play without v-sync I don't have any issues, short of horrid screen-tearing.

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The game is set to 'High' at 1440x900, 32 bit.

I can play the maps out in the fields. I get a little frame drop now and then, but it doesn't bother me. My first PC was a Pentium 160 Mhz back in 1995. We played Quake and Unreal. Did we crash? Oh boy....

No, It's only the cutscenes/cinematics that causes problems. I mena, it's ok as I can enjoy the beautiful graphics and effects. I just can't make the right decisions in the game. I can't read long cinematics.
If a cutscene turns up I have to use my ears and eyes in highspeed mode, and then guess from the text what's to be said and done. In most of the longer dialogues I miss the points. Obviously.

Today is the first time I visited the Temple of Mythal. I crashed twice, but I think I got the point. Chose if Morrigan or I drink from the well. I just wish I could read/hear more of the dialogues and comments before making such a major choice in the game. Sadly enough I can't save i the middle of a dialogue.
I did once manage to watch the entire sequence starting in Haven and ending in Skyhold. I guess it was possible because I disabled the UI before it started (UI.DrawEnable 0)?

I haven't got a clue what causes this. A guy at Answer HQ explained the conflict between DAI and Windows. They are arguing about 'who's in charge'. And when nothing happens Windows decides to shut DAI down. It's a DirectX runtime error. DAI simply kills the Nvidia driver, and Windows restores it.

[MelissaGT]

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I haven't got a clue what causes this. A guy at Answer HQ explained the conflict between DAI and Windows. They are arguing about 'who's in charge'. And when nothing happens Windows decides to shut DAI down. It's a DirectX runtime error. DAI simply kills the Nvidia driver, and Windows restores it.

 

If your system is only a year old, is it still under warranty? If it's kicking out DirectX errors (and you've reinstalled DirectX), I'd almost think that it's the GPU being the problem. I'd be nice if you could just RMA it. 

 

This is weird! Melissa GT has a high system spec while mine is low. My graphics card is only a NVIDIA 650Ti, but neither of us are experiencing the problems to the degree that you seem to have. Even with 8Gb DDR2 memory my machine is pretty much at entry level these days for games like DAI. I get great colours on the Dragons but again I heard that DAI was getting lots of negative feedback from some NVIDIA card users. The only thing I did notice was when I let NVIDIA's (sorry again not wishing to derail the thread also) GeForce Experience optimise my game settings on DAI the graphics sucked at 640 x 480 so I let the cardf and the software work it out for itself. I don't always get the best graphics and smooth gameplay but it works fine. I always use a refresh rate of 60Hz which works ok for my 24" widescreen. The problem is not yours I think but one for Bioware/EA to resolve. Have you thrown it at them? 
 

 

I despise GeForce Experience with a passion. If it weren't for using Shadowplay to record gaming sessions, I would remove it from my system entirely. I don't trust any of the optomizations. I just tweak games myself via NVIDIA control panel. 

[Tremble333]

No problem with killing Dragons. I don't like killing wolves at all (nor do I like the fact that they are portrayed as "monsters" in DAI and every other RPG game), which I am sometimes forced to do as the Token of the Packmaster seems to be broken in my copy of the game.  It has never worked for me. Sucks.

[Heidirs]

When I got to the dragon that was sleeping I actually walked right up to it and just...froze. I just sat there staring at it on my screen, unable to bring myself to attack a poor creature that was just minding its business and taking a nap. If it hadn't woken up on its own I might have just stood there indefinitely.

 

I did the exact same thing, and just stood there. It's sleeping, and you want me to kill it?

 

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No, It's only the cutscenes/cinematics that causes problems. I mena, it's ok as I can enjoy the beautiful graphics and effects. I just can't make the right decisions in the game. I can't read long cinematics. If a cutscene turns up I have to use my ears and eyes in highspeed mode, and then guess from the text what's to be said and done. In most of the longer dialogues I miss the points. Obviously.

Today is the first time I visited the Temple of Mythal. I crashed twice, but I think I got the point. Chose if Morrigan or I drink from the well. I just wish I could read/hear more of the dialogues and comments before making such a major choice in the game. Sadly enough I can't save i the middle of a dialogue.

 

Wow. In your cause, I'd consider the game unplayable. Making the decisions is a big part of the game, and not being able to watch the cutscenes is a huge detriment to that.

 

No problem with killing Dragons. I don't like killing wolves at all (nor do I like the fact that they are portrayed as "monsters" in DAI and every other RPG game), which I am sometimes forced to do as the Token of the Packmaster seems to be broken in my copy of the game.  It has never worked for me. Sucks.

 

At least in the Hinterlands, the wolves attack you because they are being demon-controlled. But yeah, bothers me too.

[wmingua]

When I got to the dragon that was sleeping I actually walked right up to it and just...froze. I just sat there staring at it on my screen, unable to bring myself to attack a poor creature that was just minding its business and taking a nap. If it hadn't woken up on its own I might have just stood there indefinitely.

 

Yes, they're amazing creatures and I feel a little bad for killing them.

 

Actually, looking at your avatar made me think of the Mordin quote, "Sometimes heal patients, something execute dangerous people. Either way helps."

 

I feel like that logic can be applied to the dragons too. 

[Cobwebmaster]

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The game is set to 'High' at 1440x900, 32 bit.

I can play the maps out in the fields. I get a little frame drop now and then, but it doesn't bother me. My first PC was a Pentium 160 Mhz back in 1995. We played Quake and Unreal. Did we crash? Oh boy....

No, It's only the cutscenes/cinematics that causes problems. I mena, it's ok as I can enjoy the beautiful graphics and effects. I just can't make the right decisions in the game. I can't read long cinematics.
If a cutscene turns up I have to use my ears and eyes in highspeed mode, and then guess from the text what's to be said and done. In most of the longer dialogues I miss the points. Obviously.

Today is the first time I visited the Temple of Mythal. I crashed twice, but I think I got the point. Chose if Morrigan or I drink from the well. I just wish I could read/hear more of the dialogues and comments before making such a major choice in the game. Sadly enough I can't save i the middle of a dialogue.
I did once manage to watch the entire sequence starting in Haven and ending in Skyhold. I guess it was possible because I disabled the UI before it started (UI.DrawEnable 0)?

I haven't got a clue what causes this. A guy at Answer HQ explained the conflict between DAI and Windows. They are arguing about 'who's in charge'. And when nothing happens Windows decides to shut DAI down. It's a DirectX runtime error. DAI simply kills the Nvidia driver, and Windows restores it.

 

My game runs at 1920x1200 @ 59.9x GHz. Graphic quality is set to Auto with most others (apart from texture quality -ultra) set to medium oh I have low tessallation

NVIDIA has in my view (from a professional standpoint) a rightly justified claim to being the best all round graphics card . Back oh in 1993 I was testing graphics card performance (no onboardchips then) in the workplace on the basis of their ability to run Microsoft golf. ( the business was consulting engineering). Obviously things have moved since then from 386/486/25 machines (or lower) through pentium to the powerhouses that are around now. In recent years I have always used NVIDIA cards as opposed to AMD/Radeon for their superior performance and all round grade of quality. I was astonished on buying DAI to learn that EA/Bioware had confessed to experiencing particular issues with NVIDIA Cards when this manufacturer would to my mind be the benchmark to aim at for gaming software accreditisation.

It rather sounds as though the software house (Bioware/EA) still have a lot of graphics performance issues to deal with. What skeeves me out is that patches (now patch5?) are being rushed out rather than carefully controlled. It's almost as if we are getting knee jerk reactions rather than a  managed attempt to really deal with these issues. The latest patch is a hodge podge of minor glitch corrections with the occasional reference to a more underlying serious issue

Sorry to hear you are having such a problem M. I know from your posts in other gaming forums that this issue has not arisen before for you. Yes in gaming terms I started around 1993 with Doom after I bought my first pc (Compaq 486/25 costing £1,400 ) for my business. The gaming bug bit me hard and I have been upgrading ever since to try and meet new gaming system requirements

While it is always possible that there is an issue with either your CPU or GPU I think that a remote one as you are not experiencing similar issues with other games. In the Graphic screen options from the main menu there seem to be an awful lot of detailed aspects to tweak (or not). For my taste that is far too much detail and info -  either as readily available for anyone, or as a pre start auto selection process for the game to interrogate your hardware. The more criteria you build into an interface selection process, the greater the risk of glitches and operating difficulties

My job? Business systems consultant  

 

[Mushashi7]

My game runs at 1920x1200 @ 59.9x GHz. Graphic quality is set to Auto with most others (apart from texture quality -ultra) set to medium oh I have low tessallation

NVIDIA has in my view (from a professional standpoint) a rightly justified claim to being the best all round graphics card . Back oh in 1993 I was testing graphics card performance (no onboardchips then) in the workplace on the basis of their ability to run Microsoft golf. ( the business was consulting engineering). Obviously things have moved since then from 386/486/25 machines (or lower) through pentium to the powerhouses that are around now. In recent years I have always used NVIDIA cards as opposed to AMD/Radeon for their superior performance and all round grade of quality. I was astonished on buying DAI to learn that EA/Bioware had confessed to experiencing particular issues with NVIDIA Cards when this manufacturer would to my mind be the benchmark to aim at for gaming software accreditisation.

It rather sounds as though the software house (Bioware/EA) still have a lot of graphics performance issues to deal with. What skeeves me out is that patches (now patch5?) are being rushed out rather than carefully controlled. It's almost as if we are getting knee jerk reactions rather than a  managed attempt to really deal with these issues. The latest patch is a hodge podge of minor glitch corrections with the occasional reference to a more underlying serious issue

Sorry to hear you are having such a problem M. I know from your posts in other gaming forums that this issue has not arisen before for you. Yes in gaming terms I started around 1993 with Doom after I bought my first pc (Compaq 486/25 costing £1,400 ) for my business. The gaming bug bit me hard and I have been upgrading ever since to try and meet new gaming system requirements

While it is always possible that there is an issue with either your CPU or GPU I think that a remote one as you are not experiencing similar issues with other games. In the Graphic screen options from the main menu there seem to be an awful lot of detailed aspects to tweak (or not). For my taste that is far too much detail and info -  either as readily available for anyone, or as a pre start auto selection process for the game to interrogate your hardware. The more criteria you build into an interface selection process, the greater the risk of glitches and operating difficulties

My job? Business systems consultant  

 

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Thank you, Cobwebmaster. for your long reply. And for the contents.

It looks as if we both are about the same age and had PC's for the same amount of years. You maybe a bit longer though. But I can relate to your thoughts.
My first PC was a Pentium 166 Mhz back in 1995. My friends was a bit ahead of me.

No, you right. There might be a settings somewhere that can remove these crashes. But it will probably cost me something elsewhere, like shiny hair or so.
I am thinking of getting a GeForce 970. It's just that my PC is only a year old. My GTX 660 only eight month. Every other game runs just smooth, like covered in grease.

I can be both CPU and GPU.  But only Bioware can answer how they fiddled the game together. It's far too technical for my brain for sure.

I've read a lot of threads about how to eventually tweak some settings and tested many of them. I haven't had any luck though. It behaves like a living being. Sometimes I can visit the War Table without crashing. That is if I don't dwell too long. I just rush or visit it two or three times in a row. Fast in and out.

Maybe I should stop complaining? I will probably buy a new CPU and a GeForce 970 within a couple of month. Withcer 3 is on its way. I'd like to run it with High settings at least.

Funny you mention the refresh rate at 59.9. I run the game at 75 Hz at 1440x900. I never tried to change my standard setting as it fit my screens capaticty and my needs. I lost sight on my right eye when I was 10 years old. Due to this my eyes gets very tired after a couple of hours. Hence the 75 Hz rate. I need a steady non-flickering image to look at. Add my career to this as an artist graduated from the 'School Of Arts' and later on in the advertising business. I demand a clear and steady picture with high detailles.

Now that you mention the year you bought your first PC I remember an incident I had about the same time. I actually think it was in 1993.
I met a friend of mine on the street. He was, just as me, interested in arts and philosophy. He told me he had bought a 486 running Win 3.0. He used it mainly for graphic works.
After an hour of chat on a cold street I said to him: "The computer is a thousand times worse than the atomic bomb. It will have an impact on this world you can ever imagine."

I was right.

[Cobwebmaster]

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Thank you, Cobwebmaster. for your long reply. And for the contents.

It looks as if we both are about the same age and had PC's for the same amount of years. You maybe a bit longer though. But I can relate to your thoughts.
My first PC was a Pentium 166 Mhz back in 1995. My friends was a bit ahead of me.

No, you right. There might be a settings somewhere that can remove these crashes. But it will probably cost me something elsewhere, like shiny hair or so.
I am thinking of getting a GeForce 970. It's just that my PC is only a year old. My GTX 660 only eight month. Every other game runs just smooth, like covered in grease.

I can be both CPU and GPU.  But only Bioware can answer how they fiddled the game together. It's far too technical for my brain for sure.

I've read a lot of threads about how to eventually tweak some settings and tested many of them. I haven't had any luck though. It behaves like a living being. Sometimes I can visit the War Table without crashing. That is if I don't dwell too long. I just rush or visit it two or three times in a row. Fast in and out.

Maybe I should stop complaining? I will probably buy a new CPU and a GeForce 970 within a couple of month. Withcer 3 is on its way. I'd like to run it with High settings at least.

Funny you mention the refresh rate at 59.9. I run the game at 75 Hz at 1440x900. I never tried to change my standard setting as it fit my screens capaticty and my needs. I lost sight on my right eye when I was 10 years old. Due to this my eyes gets very tired after a couple of hours. Hence the 75 Hz rate. I need a steady non-flickering image to look at. Add my career to this as an artist graduated from the 'School Of Arts' and later on in the advertising business. I demand a clear and steady picture with high detailles.

Now that you mention the year you bought your first PC I remember an incident I had about the same time. I actually think it was in 1993.
I met a friend of mine on the street. He was, just as me, interested in arts and philosophy. He told me he had bought a 486 running Win 3.0. He used it mainly for graphic works.
After an hour of chat on a cold street I said to him: "The computer is a thousand times worse than the atomic bomb. It will have an impact on this world you can ever imagine."

I was right.

Yes mine started with Win3. Of couse then windows wasn't an operating system per se and relied on MS-DOS (version 5 was the milestone later upgrade to 6. I upgraded mine to Windows 3.11 which had a 32 bit file system. Those were the days when to run efficiently  windows needed to operate on extended memory (above 1 Mb) The first 640k of your on board memory had to be tweaked using memory managers to get best performance, while the upper memory blocks could be tweaked to take some of the load as well. I think my pc came with 4Mb of RAM so I was smoking hot in game terms. Before that I remember a consultation in 1984 where I reviewed for a client the very latest IBM AT that had a massive 250k of memory and the  new IBM portable pc that weighed a mere 15 kilos.

I first started programming around 1969 on paper and the old punch card machines (Burroughs E6000). I started writing ICL COBOL in 1973. It's been a while since I did any serious operating system  admin such as Unix, Windows and Novell netware and that was over 20 years ago. I enjoyed messing about in windows 98 SE, hated WIN95, loved XP (64bit) and loathed VISTA. Nowadays I just enjoy gardening and of course gaming which has become therapeutic especially in the winter.  Witcher 3 is likely to be my last game before I switch to tablets/Samsung Notes and I have no plans to further upgrade my PC. At 64 I think it's time that this aged schoolboy gave PC Games a rest.

I think you have every right to complain and you should do so. I try (but don't always succeed) to be constructive in my criticism.

I used to moan about bugs in Skyrim on Bethseda forums. It still is buggy but not game breakingly so as your problem is. Such issues to my mind should carry the highest priority for resolution - it's called customer support but the tendency these days is to go for sales at any cost and sweep such issues under the carpet. Whether the resolution is triggered through your hardware support (GPU patch) or by the game designers themselves is not important. The important thing is for it to be resolved. If I were you I'd hold off on buying another graphics card or a GPU (watch a mobo replacement or you may end up having to get a new o/s) until you know definitively what the problem is

Try something like Tom's hardware a website for tekkies that discuss such issues as you have with your GPU CPU/games

HAppy gaming (Not here I guess now but hopefully soon)

[QueenCrow]

Necros this thread because I changed my mind about dragon slaying today

 

Spoiler

Excerpt of Frederic of Serault's Report:

 

Within the carcass of the Abyssal High Dragon, we found cysts of hardened flesh. Sister Brigette, a scholar from Nevarra, said she had seen, once or twice, similar nodules in other beasts. To protect itself, the body grew a barrier around a foreign object that could not be removed.

Naturally, of course, we cut into the cyst. The flesh within was blighted. We immediately examined all other cysts found in the other dragon carcasses. Each time, we found the blight. The only conclusion we can draw is that dragons can stem the spread of the blight within their own bodies. They cannot do this indefinitely, as the existence of Corypheus's dragon suggests, but they are more resistant than other creatures.

 

**spoiler related to the possible motivations for dragon slaying from - War table mission "Learn More About Dragons"

 

 

[Han Shot First]

No killed them all they are vicious beasts that do damage to society and future threat to thedas if not dealt with. 

 

In the game most of them aren't actually doing that though. You don't get quests for example from a noble who is complaining about one of his villages being burned to the ground, or from a farmer whose family ended up as lunch for hungry dragon. On the whole they are just out in the wilnerness minding their own business, and preying on another wildlife. In going after dragons the Inquisitor more often than not comes across as more as a big game hunter than as someone who is tracking down vicious maneaters. 

[QueenCrow]

In the game most of them aren't actually doing that though. You don't get quests for example from a noble who is complaining about one of his villages being burned to the ground, or from a farmer whose family ended up as lunch for hungry dragon. On the whole they are just out in the wilnerness minding their own business, and preying on another wildlife. In going after dragons the Inquisitor more often than not comes across as more as a big game hunter than as someone who is tracking down vicious maneaters. 

 

Yes, you do.  I got a quest called "Breeding Grounds" from Baron Desjardins in Suledin Keep, Emprise du Lion, saying that if the Red Templars weren't bad enough, they were dealing with dragons too.  And if the dragons started breeding, the locals would be done for.  Addressing this concern gave me the war table mission "Learn More About Dragons."

[Call Me Jord]

I was worried at first that by killing them, this would mean in future games where I imported my keep state, I wouldn't see any.

 

But I guess we'll see a lot more Dragons in the future, because I can not remember a tile in the Inquisition section of the Keep asking me if I killed all the Dragons, so fingers crossed, their species is booming outside of the locations we know.

 

Spoiler

In before speaking Dragon, but if done right would chuck money at screen

[Heidirs]

In the game most of them aren't actually doing that though. You don't get quests for example from a noble who is complaining about one of his villages being burned to the ground, or from a farmer whose family ended up as lunch for hungry dragon. On the whole they are just out in the wilnerness minding their own business, and preying on another wildlife. In going after dragons the Inquisitor more often than not comes across as more as a big game hunter than as someone who is tracking down vicious maneaters. 

Yes, you do.  I got a quest called "Breeding Grounds" from Baron Desjardins in Suledin Keep, Emprise du Lion, saying that if the Red Templars weren't bad enough, they were dealing with dragons too.  And if the dragons started breeding, the locals would be done for.  Addressing this concern gave me the war table mission "Learn More About Dragons."

 

You get the dragon slaying quest in the Emprise and the citizens in Crestwood do tell you the dragon is causing issues.

 

Beyond those two places, you don't get specific quests from concerned citizens about dragons near by.

 

Except for that one in the Western Approach that I prefer to pretend doesn't exist because of the researcher who doesn't blink twice that you killed his research subject.

 

[dragonflight288]

Yeah I started to not like it either. The crafting materials are so good, and the fights themselves I really enjoyed, but...they're so majestic and cool. I want to adopt them instead. 

 

Whoever did the models and textures for the dragons did a bang-up job.

 

Well, in a sense you can. 

 

After you kill a certain amount, I think 5, you get a wartable mission to study dragons. Cullen's is looking at a nesting ground. 

 

I chose that one and found out that my agents went to the nesting ground and took eggs. We soon will have pet dragons.

[LOLandStuff]

I like living. They obviously don't if they decide to attack me.

[KaiserShep]

It's always fun to wake up the Highland Ravager with a jar of bees, or with the collective might of everyone's focus-based attacks.

 

Sera's thousand cuts is always good for a party.

[Lady Mutare]

I hate killing the bears and the dragons, 

[KaiserShep]

I admit, I really love killing the bears. After constantly running into them in the Hinterlands at a low level, revisiting an area just to wipe them out feels oddly gratifying. I try to avoid killing the fennecs though lol

[QueenCrow]

I suppose it really is the most wicked kind of catch 22.  If you don't kill them, you don't get the war table mission to study them and you never find out that all of them are...

Spoiler

blighted, and though resistant to the blight, the suggestion is made that they're all doomed to slowly end up destructive minions of blighty things, like Corypheus' dragon.

 

Doing it again, I'd choose the option that dragonflight288 has mentioned - dragon eggs in Skyhold.  But then you only get the eggs if you kill dragons.

[Xilizhra]

I suppose it really is the most wicked kind of catch 22.  If you don't kill them, you don't get the war table mission to study them and you never find out that all of them are...

Spoiler

blighted, and though resistant to the blight, the suggestion is made that they're all doomed to slowly end up destructive minions of blighty things, like Corypheus' dragon.

 

Doing it again, I'd choose the option that dragonflight288 has mentioned - dragon eggs in Skyhold.  But then you only get the eggs if you kill dragons.

Spoiler

Frederic's supposition has no real evidence of being correct, as Corypheus' dragon was infected via infusions of red lyrium.