I'd wager that at least something with regards to the delay on DLC, on top of focusing on patches for now, is David Gaider moving to a different project. He's been the lead writer for three games now, and he likely knew this was coming for weeks if not months before the announcement the other day, so there's probably been a lot of getting everything set up for someone else to take the reins, who may not have been as involved in the planned storylines and character arcs, and handing off the characters that he's been writing to other writers. That takes time and focus. So that upheaval in the writer's room has probably been part of the delay in getting a DLC out as quickly as previous games.
Anyone think Bioware's....taking just a bit too long releasing the DLC...maybe?
#26
Posté 06 mars 2015 - 11:50
#27
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:10
It is not my point of view that they are slower in releasing DLCs and patching game-breaking issues compared to previous games (or even compared to many other studios), it is a fact. It might be due to many reasons tho and as I said, I blame EA for it. Being a video game dev is not easy and being a dev under such slavemasters as EA (and similar companies) even more so.
Surely the game now needs more patches than rushed DLCs, no argument there. Like I said I don't care if they even release a DLC. But that still doesn't change the fact they are slow.
did i deny that they are slow ???
i quote myself to the fact that they are slow: i see nothing wrong in the fact that they dont rush and iam not the only one who think so.quote end.
all else is your point of view and whatever you point out or whoever you blame for whatever ... and so on... this doesn't matter me.enjoy the game or not...(if not then it's your wasted money and your wasted time .. not my.)
#28
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:15
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#29
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:16
According to the wiki:What was the schedule like for ME3? I imagine it was a bit different to what they had planned what with the ending furoe, but it's as good a baseline as any
ME3: March 6
EC: June 26
Leviathan: August 28
ME2 was quite a bit faster.
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#30
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:18
The game needs to be fixed first.
Well, about that. I've all but given up hope on them fixing my major bug grievance which has plagued me since Day 1. So I guess this thread was just me throwing in the towel and saying "screw it, just give me the DLC already."
#31
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:20
Well, about that. I've all but given up hope on them fixing my major bug grievance which has plagued me since Day 1. So I guess this thread was just me throwing in the towel and saying "screw it, just give me the DLC already."
If the game is such a disaster - in your opinion - why would you be looking for more ways to spend money on it? Why would you be eager for any new content, paid or not?
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#32
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:26
Maybe they are planning a really big dlc or a full blown expansion pack?
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#33
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:29
No.
Better they get it to a more polished state before telling us about it.
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#34
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:32
If the game is such a disaster - in your opinion - why would you be looking for more ways to spend money on it? Why would you be eager for any new content, paid or not?
No, no, no, no. You're putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about a very specific bug here. It's not gamebreaking and it doesn't make the entire game a disaster but it is HIGHLY irritating as it means I can't roll a Qunari male archer. Ever. So, if they're not gonna patch it....then, just bring on the damn DLC already. Because it's really the only bug that's still getting to me. ![]()
#35
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 12:39
Patch 5 may not be what you want, but it is needed and its certainly taking its time. Considering it's much more a move to improve QA than simply plug a few leaks and maintenance, that is understandable to some degree. However, the list of goals seems to be growing and that is cause for potential worry, as the bigger the scope the longer the evaluation process. That said, if it works as projected there is no end to test and evaluation of any potential problem or set of problems and that is a potential problem as well. Does Inquisition become a test bed only to support future games? -time will tell in any event.
http://blog.bioware....-patch-5-notes/
#36
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 01:06
No, no, no, no. You're putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about a very specific bug here. It's not gamebreaking and it doesn't make the entire game a disaster but it is HIGHLY irritating as it means I can't roll a Qunari male archer. Ever. So, if they're not gonna patch it....then, just bring on the damn DLC already. Because it's really the only bug that's still getting to me.
Ok, sorry. Misunderstood your post.
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#37
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 01:08
I blame the Reptilians.
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#38
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 01:27
I prefer they do it right. I hope to see lots of stories, maybe even a city with actual NPCs in it... seriously, no more wide open wilderness with no inhabitants. Hissing wastes was pretty... was there a single human that wasn't a copy and paste enemy mob?
I'd like to see Denerim maybe. Perhaps a large scale battle or two that I see and don't just hear about. Lots of dialogue that changes based on who you bring like in past games to make it replayable.
That sort of thing.
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#39
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 01:51
The game is a mix-match of of every idea RPGers are supposed to like combined in such a way it looks like Frankenstein's monster. An arm from Skryim (open world), a leg from Mass Effect (arcade-like combat), etc. The end result is a complete nightmare.
I think they should put more effort into fixing this piece of .....well just fix it. Like a complete overhaul of the UI, auto-attack, the 8 slot limit, etc. Not to mention the horrendous AI and lack of tactics. There are a lot things that need to be fixed, they should put their efforts on that.
I feel like this is one of those Greenlit games on Steam where you pay in advance and are allowed to play numerous builds of the game and beta test it extensively before it comes out. You know where as time goes on they add more features like spells and improved AI as the project develops. I feel like DAI is one of them, and we are playing a bedrock beta.
To be blunt, actually asking for money for DLC given the horrible state this game is in is completely offensive.
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#40
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:03
Same. I think I'm here just to give feedback because I want DA4 to be great. So basically I'm waiting for DA4 news to see if Bioware learned from their mistakes or not. I don't think DLCs will salvage this game for me to be quite honest.
That was my perspective also at first, since I loved KotOR, SWtOR, ME 1 & 2, Jade Empire, and of course DA:O I wanted to like BioWare's games again but it seems my tastes in what makes a game good are in the minority. DA:I has been their "most successful launch" to date so I doubt they'll go back to what made those older games special to me.
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#41
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:15
I think they should put more effort into fixing this piece of .....well just fix it. Like a complete overhaul of the UI, auto-attack, the 8 slot limit, etc. Not to mention the horrendous AI and lack of tactics. There are a lot things that need to be fixed, they should put their efforts on that.
That unfortunately is not gonna happen. It would earn them an excellent reputation tho, but EA doesn't care about that, they care about money and this would cost a lot. But they could at least follow the Bethesda way and release the toolset, so the community is able to fix their mistakes for them.
did i deny that they are slow ???
i quote myself to the fact that they are slow: i see nothing wrong in the fact that they dont rush and iam not the only one who think so.quote end.
all else is your point of view and whatever you point out or whoever you blame for whatever ... and so on... this doesn't matter me.enjoy the game or not...(if not then it's your wasted money and your wasted time .. not my.)
All else is my point of view? What else is there left in my posts?
Them being slow could be because of many reasons? Yes, it could, duh. Being a dev is not easy? Surprise, it is not. Are EA slavemasters? They are. Is EA to blame / responsible for the state in which DAI was released? They are (BW are too, but less, since they just follow EA's orders). Does the game need more patches? It sure as hell does. Are they inefficient at fixing important issues? They are, for starters just visit the old gen master thread. That is all from my posts except what I stated as my opinions. No points of view, just facts.
So I believe this is settled then. Either point out exactly what you mean next time, or don't reply to my posts.
#42
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:20
I've never had any bugs minus the banter issue, and I've beaten the game almost six times at this point, so yeah, I'm getting a bit itchy to get my hands on DLC. However, it took ME3 almost six months to get out the first story DLC, so I'm trying to keep that in perspective.
#43
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:23
I'm sure folks like you and I aren't alone on the forums.
You are not. We just tend to be less vocal.
#44
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:29
You are not. We just tend to be less vocal.
Try plucking out a nose hair, that helps.
#45
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:36
They need to hold off a while on the DLC a few more months, in my opinion. Give the newly-roosting crazies time to get bored and move on.
#46
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 02:56
No I don't think they're taking too long. I just hope they take long enough.
#48
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 05:18
That was my perspective also at first, since I loved KotOR, SWtOR, ME 1 & 2, Jade Empire, and of course DA:O I wanted to like BioWare's games again but it seems my tastes in what makes a game good are in the minority. DA:I has been their "most successful launch" to date so I doubt they'll go back to what made those older games special to me.
Not sure what your tastes are in an RPG but don't sell yourself short. Just because they catered to consoles and got more "sales" from all the hyped up promissed gameplay doesn't meen fans are happy with it or even that it's a good/bad game. Sure all the reviewers gave it rave reviews but what are they supposed to do when the last version of DA was..well... what it was. They would get raked over the coals if they didn't give it at least a decent review in comparision to DA2. Eventually releasing games with empty promisses, broken gameplay, lazy filler, unfinished core mechanics, and endless bugs will catch up to them. And "sales" figures is ALL they ment when saying "this is our most successful game yet". At this rate I'll be supprised if a DA series even exists in 10-15 years.
It's gonna be interesting at the very least to see how fans react to the next DA IF there is one. I can safely say I won't be picking up Bioware games based solely on reviewers anymore. You'd be better off finding the WORST review of the game and deciding if you could deal with the problems they list rather than basing your purchase on your favorite reviewers.
I know I know it sounds like I absolutely hate DAI. What it does well it does really well. Which is enough to keep me playing and I don't mind reading at all so that adds alot of enjoyment to this game and actually makes it feel much less shallow if you take your time and read everything. But I don't enjoy it enough to overlook the problems and to give BW the benefit of the doubt anymore on any new releases.
#49
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 06:47
Not sure what your tastes are in an RPG but don't sell yourself short. Just because they catered to consoles and got more "sales" from all the hyped up promissed gameplay doesn't meen fans are happy with it or even that it's a good/bad game. Sure all the reviewers gave it rave reviews but what are they supposed to do when the last version of DA was..well... what it was. They would get raked over the coals if they didn't give it at least a decent review in comparision to DA2. Eventually releasing games with empty promisses, broken gameplay, lazy filler, unfinished core mechanics, and endless bugs will catch up to them. And "sales" figures is ALL they ment when saying "this is our most successful game yet". At this rate I'll be supprised if a DA series even exists in 10-15 years.
It's gonna be interesting at the very least to see how fans react to the next DA IF there is one. I can safely say I won't be picking up Bioware games based solely on reviewers anymore. You'd be better off finding the WORST review of the game and deciding if you could deal with the problems they list rather than basing your purchase on your favorite reviewers.
I know I know it sounds like I absolutely hate DAI. What it does well it does really well. Which is enough to keep me playing and I don't mind reading at all so that adds alot of enjoyment to this game and actually makes it feel much less shallow if you take your time and read everything. But I don't enjoy it enough to overlook the problems and to give BW the benefit of the doubt anymore on any new releases.
I'm going on the sales and the general reviews, but also the high number of hardcore fans on these very boards who are thrilled with DA:I and will defend the things I see as flaws to the death (dead empty world, watered down plot, overabundance of fetch quests with no side quests of substance, very limited characterization and roleplaying opportunities, etc...).
Fun fact: I'm a console player.
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#50
Posté 07 mars 2015 - 07:10
I understand some peoples' impatience, but I personally would prefer they take their time. We all know what happens when they are rushed, DA2 happens. All I would ask for at this time is just to know what DLC we are going to get. The Calling or Wolf Hunt. I'd like to eventually get both because those are the main two things that the game left unfinished. Of course these two DLC's as well as the titles are the most widely speculated by fans, and I agree with the majority on what the DLC's will be.





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