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We've crossed that point a long time ago, look whats considered attractive nowadays, catwalk models with the bodies of concentration camp prisoners, women with ridiculous implants all over their bodies, the ''gap'' and so on. We stopped caring about ''evolutionary attractive'' since it stopped being important. For a woman, is its still important to have a physically strong, healthy partner?
Its definitely not a requirement anymore, a few hundred years ago it was.
Also look what most men were into a hundred years ago, very curvy slightly overweight (for today's standard) women, which definitely is an advantage for breeding.

For allot of women health (maybe not strength per say) IS important. Why would a woman not want a healthy partner? You'll note most girls aren't going around talking about how sexy fat dudes with diabetes are.

Muscles might not be a "requirement" but they are definitely NOT a negative.

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catwalk models with the bodies of concentration camp prisoners

 

I've never met anyone who fantasized about male fashion models.



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You'll note most girls aren't going around talking about how sexy fat dudes with diabetes are.

 

Most girls don't ask when a guy's last checkup was either. You don't know that attractive guy who works out in the gym might have type I DM.



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Also these "gym bro" stereotypes are mildly insulting. The vast majority of my lifting friends are intelligent, driven, determined and extremely hard working. And yeah, most of them have attractive girlfriends.


I've never hit on a girl and had her tell me "no your muscles are disgusting" maybe no for other reasons, but def not because of being in shape.
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That depends on who's around you lady wise and what your mindset is for what you're hoping for.

 

Some women ooh and ahh at bigger muscles. They'll overlook other details as long as you have that.

 

Other women don't care for big muscles or a good core body and look for personality, charisma, behavior, mannerisms, etc etc.

 

Some women care more for elements that make a man "what" he is. Tall? Short? Muscular? Slim? Chubby? Ethnicity? Job? Funding?

 

Other women care more for elements that make a man "who" he is. Kind? Generous? Caring? Thoughtful? Open-minded? Brilliant? Focused? Determined?

 

People, men and women included, look for elements of both who and what someone is, though they'll naturally put more importance on some over others.

 

For example, if a woman is looking for a guy who's a gym nut that drinks protein shakes often, is constantly pushing the limits of his physical body, and has a good jawline, she might overlook that he's a complete tosser and douche bag to everyone outside of his immediate family.

 

Another woman could be looking for a guy who's a book reader, real quiet and introverted, not a people person, but very much a fantastic guy in a one on one relationship, not even noticing that he needs all the help in the world with some basics in life.

 

Thats one of the reasons I make a point physically, mentally, spiritually, and psychologically to be the best me that I can be for myself, those closest to me, and the people of the world.

 

You have to be mindful of how your partner will treat you.

 

You have to be mindful of how your partner will treat others.

 

You have to be mindful of how your partner will treat the world.

 

As those are big and important ways of understanding the person you're connecting or not connecting with.

 

Too many people get swayed by the charismatic jackass who plays nice to them but treats everyone and everything else, sometimes even them like garbage.

 

Other people pursue the good guy who's actually a good guy but is incapable of performing some usual tasks and needs some help getting better at performing them.

 

Its all down to each individual's perceptions, opinions, wants, desires, and life experiences.

 

I know that no matter what I do, I won't win over everyone. But thats not the point;I have to win over myself first, making sure to stay humble and kind, happy and committed, willing to share positive energy with others. You don't need the biggest arms, the fastest legs, the most expensive college degree, or a million dollar job to do that,

 

You just need to try being the best you that you can be. Follow that, and the rest will fill in itself. May not be today or tomorrow, may not be in the next year or decade, but being pretty good at being you is a hell of a way to start.


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Most girls don't ask when a guy's last checkup was either. You don't know that attractive guy who works out in the gym might have type I DM.

Lol, fair enough.

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For allot of women health (maybe not strength per say) IS important. Why would a woman not want a healthy partner? You'll note most girls aren't going around talking about how sexy fat dudes with diabetes are.

Muscles might not be a "requirement" but they are definitely NOT a negative.


Lets agree to disagree here. Like I said, my experience is that an awful lot of couples where the male partner was not in a evolutionary gifted state while the female partner definitely was, for today's standards. Heck, even my nice who can be considered very attractive has a boyfriend who is a head shorter than her, is a really skinny dude with a very limited intellect. And its a very similar story with the relationship of her best friend.

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Maybe it depends on the type of women but for me personally I like it if the man I'm with isn't someone who looks weak, maybe that's a bit harshly said and I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm just the type of woman who likes to feel safe and protected even though I can look out for myself and I also like that he will be able to lift any potential heavy boxes around the house etc. A strong muscular body to me says all that and that's why I'm attracted to it.


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Also these "gym bro" stereotypes are mildly insulting. The vast majority of my lifting friends are intelligent, driven, determined and extremely hard working. And yeah, most of them have attractive girlfriends.


I've never hit on a girl and had her tell me "no your muscles are disgusting" maybe no for other reasons, but def not because of being in shape.

eh, in my case those stereotypes are born of personal experience, sure the people you know are intelligent and so on, but most gym going people ive met are complete morons and superficial asshats.....allthough that can be said for the majority of people i know....most intelligent people i know are too busy working 16 hours a day to care about how they look

 

 

EDIT: actually i blame the broken education system, making kids believe they have to be moronic meatheads in order to succeed in life



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..most intelligent people i know are too busy working 16 hours a day to care about how they look

I don't want to sound mean but chances are high that you're not very intelligent if you have to work 16 hours per day.  :P

 

Thats way too much for a healthy lifestyle. 


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I spend two hours 6 days a week lifting at home. No gym for me, I have all the weights here at home because I hate gyms and I want to save time.

Same here tbh. Gyms are a waste of money imo.

I workout 2 hours a day, 6 days a week (Sundays are my recovery days).

My workouts usually consists of: push-ups, sit-ups, crunches, pull-ups, sometimes chin-ups, curling 20lb (9kgs), bench press between 100 - 120lbs (45.3 - 54.4kgs), also do an assortment of military workouts I learned during my service. Then I run 4 miles.


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I don't want to sound mean but chances are high that you're not very intelligent if you have to work 16 hours per day.  :P

 

Thats way too much for a healthy lifestyle. 

i was over exaggerating a little, although i do know a former surgeon who drives a cab because it pays 3 times as much as his previous job



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I know some people like dumb and hott, but I can't do it. 

Intelligence is a requirement for me.  I'm not saying you have to discover cold fusion, but I need someone I can talk to.

 

This. I can't do it either. Decent acumen is a standard for me tbh.


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I have a home gym. Its pretty nice too. Has a squat rack with safety pins, which can also be used to bench in, an Olympic barbell, a pair of powerblock dumbells, an ez curl bar, punching bag and an elliptical.

I would still rather go to the gym. I dislike lifting alone.
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i was over exaggerating a little, although i do know a former surgeon who drives a cab because it pays 3 times as much as his previous job

 

I agree,  just because you work so many hours it doesn't mean you're unintelligent, some people aren't born with money.



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I have a home gym. Its pretty nice too. Has a squat rack with safety pins, which can also be used to bench in, an Olympic barbell, a pair of powerblock dumbells, an ez curl bar, punching bag and an elliptical.

I would still rather go to the gym. I dislike lifting alone.

 

A gym partner goes beyond friendship.

 

Find one.

 

And keep one.

 

Until the end of your days.



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I have a home gym. Its pretty nice too. Has a squat rack with safety pins, which can also be used to bench in, an Olympic barbell, a pair of powerblock dumbells, an ez curl bar, punching bag and an elliptical.

I would still rather go to the gym. I dislike lifting alone.

 

Same here babe, I like being with other people, otherwise it quickly gets too boring.


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I don't want to sound mean but chances are high that you're not very intelligent if you have to work 16 hours per day.  :P

 

Thats way too much for a healthy lifestyle. 

 

I did that. In my last job, I used to get paid ****. But, because I was part-time and there were hours available, I schedule myself so that I work double shifts back-to-back. That means getting 32 hours done in 2 days. That's almost full-time, plus 4 days off.

 

In my current job, I can legally do 16 hour shifts only. But, any extra 8 hours I get paid OT, which means 1.5x my pay.



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Same here tbh. Gyms are a waste of money imo.

I workout 2 hours a day, 6 days a week (Sundays are my recovery days).

My workouts usually consists of: push-ups, sit-ups, crunches, pull-ups, sometimes chin-ups, curling 20lb (9kgs), bench press between 100 - 120lbs (45.3 - 54.4kgs), also do an assortment of military workouts I learned during my service. Then I run 4 miles.

 

Sh*t man you preppin' for the hunger games or something?


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A gym partner goes beyond friendship.
 
Find one.
 
And keep one.
 
Until the end of your days.

lol.

Same here babe, I like being with other people, otherwise it quickly gets too boring.

Yeah and the competition can be fun too!

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i was over exaggerating a little, although i do know a former surgeon who drives a cab because it pays 3 times as much as his previous job

 

Where do you live so that surgeons don't make money? Surgeons can make over $200k annually.



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I have a home gym. Its pretty nice too. Has a squat rack with safety pins, which can also be used to bench in, an Olympic barbell, a pair of powerblock dumbells, an ez curl bar, punching bag and an elliptical.

I would still rather go to the gym. I dislike lifting alone.

reminds me i need a new elliptical, my sister broke the old one.....



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Where do you live so that surgeons don't make money? Surgeons can make over $200k annually.

the 3rd world :P sure in private hospitals they can make a lot but in public ones they make as much as your average waiter



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Sh*t man you preppin' for the hunger games or something?

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Nah, I'm just addicted to working out is all. All started when I was really young and started taking tae kwon do classes, then the Army really made me into it.

I like to be in tiptop shape.

You never know when the neckbeards are gonna take over.



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the 3rd world :P sure in private hospitals they can make a lot but in public ones they make as much as your average waiter

 

That sucks. Medical professionals from the Third World who come to the U.S. have trouble getting past the medical license examinations. Some end up as nursing assistants or nurses just to get by. Few succeed.