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[BansheeOwnage]

Inquisitor: Evelyn Trevelyan, Female Human Rogue

Allied with the Mages

Celene Rules Alone

Grey Wardens rebuilt and made Allies

Hawke is dead

Morrigan drinks from the Well of Sorrows

Cassandra is Divine Victoria

Whoa. That is exactly what my first playthrough was, with the exception of Hawke living in mine. On that note, who is the default Grey Warden Ally? Because if it's Alistair, there is a much better case for sacrificing Hawke

[Raiil]

Whoa. That is exactly what my first playthrough was, with the exception of Hawke living in mine. On that note, who is the default Grey Warden Ally? Because if it's Alistair, there is a much better case for sacrificing Hawke

 

 

The default is Alistair and Anora ruling IIRC (I made a rogue with no world state import) so it's probably going to be Stroud. Loghain is a possibility but I haven't gotten that far yet.

[BansheeOwnage]

The default is Alistair and Anora ruling IIRC (I made a rogue with no world state import) so it's probably going to be Stroud. Loghain is a possibility but I haven't gotten that far yet.

Ah, well in that case, sorry Stroud - I need Hawke to live!

[KaiserShep]

Canon shmanon. The only choices that matter are mine. My surviving Warden and Hawke scoff at defaults.

[wright1978]

never been bothered by bioware's default choices, they generally opt for simplistic death routes and continuity(wardens not banned, Celene on throne etc). They certainly don't reflect my canon.
My hawke isn't dead and hopefully he will get to live happily with his izzy.

[Phoe77]

I'll never understand the importance that so many people place on canon.  I don't see how it really matters for Dragon Age since they've made it clear that they're committed to carrying our own choices from game to game.  

[Nimlowyn]

It's a nice fun fact, but nothing more than that. Default is for practicality. 

[Zehealingman]

Really, mages again?

*Hugs Calpernia and Ser Barris*

[NUM13ER]

I think you're mistaking canon for default. There is no canon for Dragon Age.

It's just the baseline world state for the newcomers.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

I'll never understand the importance that so many people place on canon. I don't see how it really matters for Dragon Age since they've made it clear that they're committed to carrying our own choices from game to game.

I never understood this thing where default is canon. There's a difference between default and canon. Default is just basic world while canon is what actually happens. I doubt the canon would be characters that never did any quests .

[thats1evildude]

Remember, the 'canon' is just the simplest playthrough they can make so new players come across as few characters that have appeared before as possible so they don't get confused.

 

Right, and "living past protagonists" don't help that situation. So the default has Hawke dead because that's the simplest outcome.

[Killdren88]

I'll never understand the importance that so many people place on canon.  I don't see how it really matters for Dragon Age since they've made it clear that they're committed to carrying our own choices from game to game.  

 

I assume because they feel that they need to feel that their choices are either validated or not. Which is weird.

[Aren]

 

 

No, the default world state is simply the path of least resistance for any new players so as to not overwhelm them with tons of callbacks to past characters and events that wouldn't make sense.

I wonder why they choose for the default a Morrigan who drink from the well, if they intend to reuse the character wouldn't be simple for new players the absence for any reference regarding the well of sorrow? Since i sincerely believe that the choice is meaningless just like the whole OGB, i had assumed that the Inquisitor would be the one to drink while for the next installment there will be a new hero.

[Lilithor]

I think you're mistaking canon for default. There is no canon for Dragon Age.

It's just the baseline world state for the newcomers.

Canon is what they use for their books and comics. Which made me lost most of my interest for Thedas. If they didn't do that **** I wouldn't feel like my story is the "fake" one. But since they have books and comics (among other things) I now know their take on the story and I just can't go on with this non-canon thing. From that moment on my story will always be just a fanfic.

"Officially", yeah, there is no canon, but in other media it will always be there to haunt me... I never made a game with their canon, nor do I plan to, also their canon sucks, COMPLETELY, romancing morrigan and going through the eluvian is a lot more interesting than ultimate sacrifice and romancing solas as a dalish girl is the most awesome Inquisition ever but yet if I read books/comics there is their boring choices =(

[Kantr]

It's so weird that my choices didn't sync into the keep, and instead they just put BioWare's canon as my choices. Lame, I'll just have to change them myself.

 

Anyway, here are the major decisions noted in BioWare's canon state of Inquisition

 

Inquisitor: Evelyn Trevelyan, Female Human Rogue

Allied with the Mages

Celene Rules Alone

Grey Wardens rebuilt and made Allies

Hawke is dead

Morrigan drinks from the Well of Sorrows

Cassandra is Divine Victoria

 

Hawke is dead...*sigh*

Are you sure that you didnt have a human rogue character? Because on worldstates not copied into da:I I see the Inquisitor as Malika Cadash

[ThreeF]

Are you sure that you didnt have a human rogue character? Because on worldstates not copied into da:I I see the Inquisitor as Malika Cadash

I've created a completely new world state, DAO and DA2 included, and the defaults are those above^

[Aren]

Default is not canon however bioware has proven dozen o f times that the default world-state is not just their world state,but it  also has the potential to influence all the players regardless of their choices.

The OGB plot was neutralized because their default world state   was an Ultimate Sacrifice, the warden is absent for many reasons (including race's variability) and one of them is because their default was an Ultimate sacrifice.

Hawke is banished in their default so i assume that is  really difficult that we will see the Champion again regardless of our choice.

In order to avoid annoying retcons they have decided to kill the  major antagonists and protagonists of DAI  that can be killed  into an uncertain way (Corypheus,Calpernia,Samson,Hawke;Loghain;Alistair,Stroud,Abelas ecc..) to bring them back if they are needed.

So their Default is not just meant to  accomodate new players but serve also to maintain a certain level of integrity in between the various games and that world state is more relevant in terms of integrity for the future installament than any personal player choice;who can produce at best in a triple AAA game a little and often  meaningless cameo.

[Kantr]

This is what I see.

 

[ThreeF]

This is what I see.

Those are not defaults, click on that cross in the empty square to create a new one, that one will be the default

[AWTEW]

I think you're mistaking canon for default. There is no canon for Dragon Age.
It's just the baseline world state for the newcomers.

Bioware would have an inhouse cannon. Otherwise it would get too confusing, when initially planning major plot points with different writers.

[Legion of 1337]

I'll never understand the importance that so many people place on canon.  I don't see how it really matters for Dragon Age since they've made it clear that they're committed to carrying our own choices from game to game.  

The default choices betray Bioware's preferences - how they'd like the story to play out if they took away player control, the 'true' story of Thedas they have in their heads, but allow to be changed in game.

 

For example, in both DA2 and DAI the hero sides with the Mages. I honestly expected the default state in DAI to side Templars. Clearly, for Bioware, they're on the mages' side, and that's how the story would play out if they were to make all the decisions themselves. Since they are the authors, that makes it as close to canon as we have.

[Andraste_Reborn]

The default choices betray Bioware's preferences - how they'd like the story to play out if they took away player control, the 'true' story of Thedas they have in their heads, but allow to be changed in game.

 

That's not necessarily true. The world state used by David Gaider for the comics isn't the same as the default world state present in the Keep. (Comic book Alistair did the ritual.)

[CoM Solaufein]

My canon is female elf thief. Everything else is okay.

[Sweawm]

The Default Choices do pan out what Bioware will likely keep relevant in future games. Hawke being dead in the default for example, most certainly makes clear that Hawke will not appear in future Dragon Age titles. 

[Raiil]

The Default Choices do pan out what Bioware will likely keep relevant in future games. Hawke being dead in the default for example, most certainly makes clear that Hawke will not appear in future Dragon Age titles.

I wouldn't go that far- we have Loghain, Alistair and Anora, all of whom can be removed. I'd wager it's more likely that Hawke will no longer have a large presence in the series, however.