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[Treacherous J Slither]

Nah I dont think so Swoby. If it's possible to inject biotics into people then why was Cerberus grabbing biotic potential kids instead of simply grabbing whoever?

The writers messed up. Not the first time and won't be the last. Everything should be ran by the loremaster before being submitted for approval. Guess they don't do that at BW. Or he keep slipping.

[SwobyJ]

Miranda "wasn't the first one [her father] made, just the first one he kept".

 

I can very easily see her as a science experiment done early, even in-vitro, while a bunch of other clones died. Even before the Singapore exposures.

 

I think Cerberus was grabbing biotic potential kids because biotic potential kids are useful.

 

I think you have a point about 'injecting biotics' though. I could be entirely wrong about that.

 

Given that Miranda was born closely before the Singapore exposures, I like to think they're related. Especially when the exposures can now be tied to Cerberus, and Henry Lawson has Cerberus ties in ME3 (though seemingly not an always close relationship?).

 

I don't have proof, but I wonder if Miranda was a lab rat.

[Undead Han]

I think any surgeries done on Miranda as a child must have been due to Henry Lawson alone. After all she is loyal to Cerberus at the start of ME2, while she loathes her father. That loyalty wouldn't exist if she were a Cerberus' lab rat. Also Cerberus helps in relocating Miranda's sister and foiling Henry Lawson's plans, if you do her loyalty mission. I think at that point Henry Lawson & Cerberus were not yet working together.

[SwobyJ]

I think any surgeries done on Miranda as a child must have been due to Henry Lawson alone. After all she is loyal to Cerberus at the start of ME2, while she loathes her father. That loyalty wouldn't exist if she were a Cerberus' lab rat. Also Cerberus helps in relocating Miranda's sister and foiling Henry Lawson's plans, if you do her loyalty mission. I think at that point Henry Lawson & Cerberus were not yet working together.

 

lol I'd laugh hard if we find out some day that Cerberus/TIM set this all up to have Miranda work for them, letting her have a measure of freedom just to use her as a tool

[Treacherous J Slither]

lol I'd laugh hard if we find out some day that Cerberus/TIM set this all up to have Miranda work for them, letting her have a measure of freedom just to use her as a tool

Funny but unlikely. If she was a product of their work I believe they would have mass produced her.

[Undead Han]

Anyone play the Mass Effect: Infiltrator game?

 

I didn't...but the trivia section on the wiki for Randall Ezno states that, "It is implied that Randall's biotic abilities are a result of Cerberus's implants rather than being a "natural" biotic."

[Chaoswind]

Artificial biotics are a thing in the verse, the problem are the high risk involved in the operation and the seemingly high cost of the procedure.

It seems the answer lies in the money, a natural biotic requires exposure of dust form element zero during the fetus formation, this can be done with industrial accidents or direct exposure through drug use (red sand people), the cost of doing these things is apparently much lower than direct surgery or post birth augmentation, the option certainly exists for the wealthy and the willing and the fact that Miranda was the only one Henry kept implies the others didn't survive the procedure.

[RanetheViking]

If you think Miranda having biotics is problematic, then maybe I shouldn't bring up Helena Blake from ME1.  I could be wrong, but I assumed she was at least middle aged yet she's a biotic too.

 

Unless she's even younger than Miranda, then nevermind.

[KrrKs]

Considering Helena's crime organization dealt heavily with red sand, her abilities may stem from red sand as well. Otherwise she seems way to old to have 'natural' biotic capabilities.

[Laughing_Man]

Considering Helena's crime organization dealt heavily with red sand, her abilities may stem from red sand as well. Otherwise she seems way to old to have 'natural' biotic capabilities.

 

From what we know red sand can't actually make someone a real biotic, at most it might let someone glow blue and float a piece of paper.

[Iakus]

From what we know red sand can't actually make someone a real biotic, at most it might let someone glow blue and float a piece of paper.

And create a smell of greatness 

[KrrKs]

According to the Codex and wiki, red sand gives short term telekinetic abilities. (There is no mentioning of them being overly weak or strong.)

Helena only uses Throw and barrier (the wiki says also warp, but I've never seen that), so it would fit.

[Laughing_Man]

According to the Codex and wiki, red sand gives short term telekinetic abilities. (There is no mentioning of them being overly weak or strong.)

Helena only uses Throw and barrier (the wiki says also warp, but I've never seen that), so it would fit.

 

I don't know about codex and Wiki, but even Throw and Barrier are much more than Red Sand will allow. I'll give you two examples:

 

The first one is Paul Grayson. I can't remember which book described his Red Sand habit, but it clearly described the power of his "biotics" as being able to float a paper clip or something similar.

 

The second example is everyone's favorite BIOTIC GOD. He was injected with an especially made cocktail of drugs, including but not limited to Minagen X3 (supposedly an especially made biotic drug, made for effectiveness rather than recreation). If you lat him go after the Asari, you get to witness him "attack" her with a tiny wisp of dark energy.

 

All in all, it makes sense. Actual Biotics have eezo more or less all over their nervous system, exactly in the right place to be activated by electrical signals from the brain. A drug like Red Sand on the other hand, is merely ingested or otherwise inhaled IIRC, and contains only *some* eezo, which means that the effectiveness of the "biotics" it bestows upon the user is going to be extremely limited.

[KrrKs]

Paul Grayson. I can't remember which book described his Red Sand habit, but it clearly described the power of his "biotics" as being able to float a paper clip or something similar.

I didn't know that.

About the 'Biotic God': I don't think he is to be taken seriously, or that he was completely in control of himself and these powers during that encounter.

 

Anyway, you are most likely right, in which case Helena Blake's biotic powers are probably only a game gimmick to make her more challenging.

Either that or she looks way older than she is...(disregarding a dev oversight)