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Dan Willis

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I'll add my 2 cents. The text is way too small and the colors sometimes make it absolutely indecipherable. This isn't a minor issue for a game with this much written material, this is a major issue that must be addressed.

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I've gotten a number of PMs about this. Messaging me more will not speed up the process. We are looking at the threads, but unless we necessarily have traction on it - we can't post information we dont have.

I'll have to talk to Casey about this (as any way to address it would have far reaching changes in the game), but please don't expect any decisions or a fix in the near future (as we are supporting a number of issues at this time). This was a design choice, not a bug.

Having said that, when I find out more, I will update this thread. I appreciate everyones patience. You guys are awesome.

Modifié par Michael Gamble, 28 janvier 2010 - 11:48 .


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Michael Gamble wrote...

I've gotten a number of PMs about this. Messaging me more will not speed up the process. We are looking at the threads, but unless we necessarily have traction on it - we can't post information we dont have.

I'll have to talk to Casey about this (as any way to address it would have far reaching changes in the game), but please don't expect any decisions or a fix in the near future (as we are supporting a number of issues at this time). This was a design choice, not a bug.

Having said that, when I find out more, I will update this thread. I appreciate everyones patience. You guys are awesome.


Thank you for your time, Michael.  We don't mean to be a bother, simply hoping there is an easy fix for this.  For our eyes' sake :)

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finally some sort of response. I understand that it would take awhile to get approval if at all and would most likely take awhile to adjust once its approved.



Really its just nice to finally get a response from some one.

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Thank you for the response Michael. I understand how busy the entire Bioware team must be with this release. I hope that something can be done to address this issue in the future. It is one of the few issues I have on another terrific Bioware product.

Modifié par happypg, 28 janvier 2010 - 11:53 .


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Michael Gamble wrote...

I've gotten a number of PMs about this. Messaging me more will not speed up the process. We are looking at the threads, but unless we necessarily have traction on it - we can't post information we dont have.

I'll have to talk to Casey about this (as any way to address it would have far reaching changes in the game), but please don't expect any decisions or a fix in the near future (as we are supporting a number of issues at this time). This was a design choice, not a bug.

Having said that, when I find out more, I will update this thread. I appreciate everyones patience. You guys are awesome.

Thank you for a response. Also take this as note for Mass effect 3. Use the same text you used in Mass effect 1 as that was perfectly readable even on SDTV displays. Thank you Bioware and EA.

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Michael Gamble wrote...

I've gotten a number of PMs about this. Messaging me more will not speed up the process. We are looking at the threads, but unless we necessarily have traction on it - we can't post information we dont have.

I'll have to talk to Casey about this (as any way to address it would have far reaching changes in the game), but please don't expect any decisions or a fix in the near future (as we are supporting a number of issues at this time). This was a design choice, not a bug.

Having said that, when I find out more, I will update this thread. I appreciate everyones patience. You guys are awesome.


Thank god (and Michael Gamble). All we needed was this confirmation that we were indeed being heard. Carry on noble Bioware. Thou hast imparted hope for a brighter tomorrow, and a codex that offers its bountiful knowledge for a price less steep than that of ocular sacrifice.

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I concur, thank you for the update. We anxiously await your follow up.



For future record, tiny little text is a BAD design decision. Setting aside the "who has (or should have) what television" issue, there are plenty of visually impaired game players out there who need decent sized text.

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guys tried widescreen, it helps a lot

but shephard's back keeps getting in the way in combat

we will keep an eye out for a patch

but can you please include it on a dlc discs for people who don't have xbox live?(that is in fact one of the reason i chose to buy ME2, and i bet there are a lot of people out there who use SDTV and doesn't not have xbox live)

so if you guys decide to make a dlc, i don't mind u guys squeeze in a small patch, you know, icing on the cake

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Glad to see more people than just me are having this problem. I had started complaining about this in my own thread 2 days before this one started, social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/107/index/765951, and with the exception of one person, everyone replied like I was stupid or some thing.

Also, it's good to see that someone from Bioware knows of this problem. Many thanks, kind sir!

Hopefully we'll get a fix on this before my copy of ME2 gets too much dust on it. I got home from the midnight launch all excited, and ended up giving up on it after 5 min. Tried various options, widescreen, borrowed a friends HDTV, etc. etc., nothing helped.

Help us, Michael Gamble, you're our only hope!

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Glad we've been acknowledged, at least. Hm, looks like I'll need to bump up my purchase of an HDTV and the cable for it. I am not happy about this, but I know it was not BioWare's intention. That fact gives little solace, though. Ah well... Que sera sera..

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Thanks for responding, I know you guys are busy fixing other stuff too. Instead of changing all text in the game for everyone, maybe you could put an option to increase/decrease text size? The size it is now, and the bigger size you will hopefully add :P

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I think I've gone blind, due to my eyes straining to read the text.

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I am so disappointed because I am just unable to play the game. The text is just too small. I think this should be made a priority as it actually prevents people from being able to play or understand the game.

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Dan Willis wrote...

I concur, thank you for the update. We anxiously await your follow up.


Agreed. Thank you for taking the time to update us.

For future record, tiny little text is a BAD design decision. Setting aside the "who has (or should have) what television" issue, there are plenty of visually impaired game players out there who need decent sized text.


Even when you're not visually impaired, screen fatigue is a major problem. People with great vision generally still have greater difficulty using white text on a pale background, even when it *is* big enough. Another issue is that the text is quite fine. if it was a little fatter, it'd be pretty reasonable. My TV is a CRT, so the gentle fuzziness makes that light text kinda squinty.

An underlay, like on Dragon Age's titles, would make a massive difference. Improving the contrast between the text and the background helps those issues significantly.

Modifié par Darth Schmoopy, 29 janvier 2010 - 01:56 .


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I have this aswell, i for me, playing on an sdtv i can read the choices and the subtitles... the choices are ok, but the subtitles are like at the bare minimum size and it is annoying. And the planet? I have to use like a telescope to read that stuff.

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Add my name to the list of people who are extremely frustrated with this issue. I absolutely loved ME1 and pre-ordered the Collector's Edition of ME2. I brought it home today and felt like a kid on Christmas as I unboxed all the goodies and basked in their MassEffectyness. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when popped the disc into my 360 and realized that the majority of the game's text was too small to read. It's like my Christmas was canceled.

BioWare, I am a huge fan of what you do. I think that the stories you tell and the way you tell them are helping shape the next generation of narrative-based games. That's why I have such a hard time believing that a company so well known for quality would ship a game with such a fundamental flaw. I don't think that legible text on a 36" SD TV is too much to ask.

Please make this right. I want to play your game badly. In fact, I can't think of a game that I've looked forward to this much. Ever. And I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600. Sadly, this text issue renders the game unplayable for me.

I'm going to shelve the game for now and play something else, with the highest hope that a fix is coming soon.

Modifié par chunkymouth, 29 janvier 2010 - 06:49 .


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chunkymouth wrote...

Add my name to the list of people who are extremely frustrated with this issue. I absolutely loved ME1 and pre-ordered the Collector's Edition of ME2. I brought it home today and felt like a kid on Christmas as I unboxed all the goodies and basked in their MassEffectyness. Imagine my surprise and disappointment when popped the disc into my 360 and realized that the majority of the game's text was too small to read. It's like my Christmas was canceled.

BioWare, I am a huge fan of what you do. I think that the stories you tell and the way you tell them are helping shape the next generation of narrative-based games. That's why I have such a hard time believing that a company so well known for quality would ship a game with such a fundamental flaw. I don't think that legible text on a 36" SD TV is too much to ask.

Please make this right. I want to play your game badly. In fact, I can't think of a game that I've looked forward to this much. Ever. And I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600. Sadly, this text issue renders the game unplayable for me.

I'm going to shelve the game for now and play something else, with the highest hope that a fix is coming soon.



I'm with this guy.
I, too, have buyed the game yesterday (in Europe it comes out today, but they have broken the day-one:O) with my collector's edition and all.

Seriously:

1) You (Bioware devs) have responded to our complains, and that's good. Thank you for that.

2) You must fix it ASAP! No way you're saying "don't expect anything in the near future", because we-can't-play. That's a major issue! A critical one.
I have payed 60 bucks for the game like everyone else, but we're left wandering and maybe.... maybe... in a distant future we'll be able to enjoy what we've payed for.
You must be kidding.
I want a patch ASAP or my money back from Bioware/EA. I'm good with either.

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about this text issue would it help if i had an HD-Ready TV with 420p or 720p?

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 Most of the time the text is unreadable for me. Granted, I don't have an HD TV... part of the problem I have isn't the size of the text, but rather the color used. It would be nice if there were an option to change the colors.

I've tried messing with the brightness settings in game and it doesn't help any. :(

Modifié par d3bruts1d, 29 janvier 2010 - 12:39 .


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the text is small, but it is absolutely readable on my 29 inch "crt" television.  mind you, i do need to sit a little closer to the TV.

I'm not overly concerned by it, since i personally don't like to read text in videogames (spoken's usually better, if slower).

what annoyed me, was during the intro I missed the very last line - i'm sure it's nothing important, and it wasn't an issue of fontsize in that case, I just couldn't read it quick enough!Posted Image

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d3bruts1d wrote...

 Most of the time the text is unreadable for me. Granted, I don't have an HD TV... part of the problem I have isn't the size of the text, but rather the color used. It would be nice if there were an option to change the colors.

I've tried messing with the brightness settings in game and it doesn't help any. :(


fair comment, but may I suggest you invest in the VGA cable - it isn't the best solution to HD gaming I can tell you that but it's a lot cheaper than a new tv.  i do own the VGA cable, but I still prefer to game on the bigger TV screen (29" 4:3) even if it is sacrificing definition.

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Well I'm glad Bioware has acknowledged the situation. Hopefully something can be done for all of us sad SD gamers. Really looking forward to finally being able to read all of the codex!

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Thank you for the acknowledgment, Mr. Gamble. I realize that Bioware is having other issues at the moment, and that changing text size in a text heavy game has its problems. I am hopeful and optimistic that Bioware will address this issue, as the defect has severely impacted many customers' gameplay experience adversely, intentionally or not.

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 fine on my 50" ;)