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The book gets off to a slow start, so you'd want to keep that in mind. But after the first few chapters the story really picks up and takes off. You get to learn more about some of the characters you encounter in Inquisition.

 

Beyond that he's also done characters and story arcs for Mass Effect, so if you've played that you'll have an idea on his writing. I don't think judging those based on his reluctance to bring the HoF back is at all fair, and really, he's not the only person to say be careful what you wish for. Sometimes the kindest thing a writer can do for a character is ignore them. :P

Thank you for your answer. 

I'm so happy I figured out how to answer directly:)

I just wanted to clear something up. I wasn't judging Weeks based on him not wanting to bring the warden back.

I was basing it on his past book reviews which  were bad back in November and December. Gaider's were bad too. Lol  But I already had his books. I recently looked at his reviews and he has a 4 star rating now.:) so I will get his books. I guess the reviews went bad because so many people didn't like the game, glitches and all .LOL



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Because Importing is not the same as bringing back every decision ever made exactly when players want it? The goal of the keep should be to create an organic play experience by integrating decisions the players made where necessary, it doesn't exist just to nod/wink at the player for every decision they ever made which could harm the narrative. It's essentially a record keeper for if/when the developers decide a topic is to come up.  

 

It's not like DA:I is the only Dragon Age game that can feature imports. 

Everything from Awakening seems to be forgotten or abandoned or put off till the future which i don't even know if The Architect and all the characters will ever be adressed by Bioware. We got to see Nathaniel in DA2, but that was it. DA Keep doesn't even have a section for Awakening companions, so there is no way to indicate whether or not they became wardens and if they survived the end of Awakening. I need more resolution for Awakening arcs.


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Hella excited Weeks has no desire to see the Wardens again.

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@The topic:

It is as I've said repeatedly: I fear what they'll do with the Warden if they bring them back in a major way, and for that reason I prefer them to remain out of the story. DAI wraps up the events of Witch Hunt and gives the Warden a new task I agree with. I would, eventually, like to hear they've been successful, but I wouldn't want them to came back in a major way.

 

As for Hawke, I was not happy with the way my Hawke was derailed by DAI. Pretty much proves the point of being careful what you wish for. I never wished for them to return, though.

 

Let our old heroes rest. If they survived, they'll have a better future in our imagination.

 

@OP:
Where was that quote from? Do you have a link to the source?


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DAI wraps up the events of Witch Hunt and gives the Warden a new task I agree with.

 

The more I think about this, the more I actually agree with the folks who think that it's obvious DLC or sequel fodder. I just don't think the Warden will or should be the PC for that content.



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I'm not rooting for the Warden to come back necessarily by actually appearing in a DLC, I just don't know why they would bring up his/her search for the calling only to drop it, unless that thread gets picked up by another character/story line.



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They're clearly trying to step away from the Hero of Ferelden, maybe it's time we let them. I mean, no matter how they do it, the head-canon people wont be happy anyway. There's already people who are talking about how wrong their Hawke is, but it'll be exponentially worse with your Warden due to how many sheer possibilities there are for him/her. If they are trying that, then they are failing horribly at it. Pointing out that your warden is on a quest that could lead to a major plot development is a horrible way to try to step away from him/her. If Bioware truly wanted to distance themselves from the Warden then tying him/her to a huge plot such as Curing the Calling was a mistake. I don't need my warden back but I want them to get a proper ending. No more of this Vanishing Bullsh!t, what I want is closure.

 
Still I find it very unlikely that we will play as our warden seeing as Bioware wants to distant themselves from your HOF as much as possible which is why we keep getting those Vanishing bullsh!t excuses. i still want closure for Oghren and some bloody reference to that dwarf and by that i mean a Bioware staff member who can shed some light on Oghren's Fate.


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I'd be okay with this if this bit wasn't entirely untrue:

 

 

That kind of got thrown out the window in favour of some vague quest in the middle of nowhere, with most of said potential lovers being more important somewhere else...

 

Pretty much this.

 

And more generally, it's a problem for this series if they persist with the policy of just giving a protagonist one game each, but can't come up with a half decent way of handling the ex-protagonists.



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@The topic:

It is as I've said repeatedly: I fear what they'll do with the Warden if they bring them back in a major way, and for that reason I prefer them to remain out of the story. DAI wraps up the events of Witch Hunt and gives the Warden a new task I agree with. I would, eventually, like to hear they've been successful, but I wouldn't want them to came back in a major way.

 

As for Hawke, I was not happy with the way my Hawke was derailed by DAI. Pretty much proves the point of being careful what you wish for. I never wished for them to return, though.

 

Let our old heroes rest. If they survived, they'll have a better future in our imagination.

 

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Where was that quote from? Do you have a link to the source?

 

It is all about writing. Bio should be able to pull that off. I could pull that off if someone would pay for me to do it.  I would love to play Warden or Hawke again, for me none of my heroes are done yet. Heck even Warden could come up with a full game of his own while finding the cure and returning to Morrigan and the boy (or other LI´s).



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It is all about writing. Bio should be able to pull that off. I could pull that off if someone would pay for me to do it.  I would love to play Warden or Hawke again, for me none of my heroes are done yet. Heck even Warden could come up with a full game of his own while finding the cure and returning to Morrigan and the boy (or other LI´s).

i was kind off jealous that my love interest Leliana didn't have a kid with my Warden but after seeing how morrigan's kid turned out that doesn't match with their wardens, i'm sort of thankful it never happened cause it would be one of those head cannon types i'd hate to go through.



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I agree with the Weekes. DA:O is the story of the warden and it had an appropriate ending. I don't want to see the last spirit monk again either for the same reason.

 

What do you mean when you say the warden deserves better? Better than what? The warden hasn't been treated unfairly, writers gave them a set of honorable outcomes from which you can continue your personal headcanon.

 

About Bioware: I'm not sure why they said the warden is investigating the taint. If you're not going to write about the warden anymore, then don't impose an official post-game canon. Leave the future of the wardens to the players. The warden is done as far as you're concerned. That's fine. Just leave it there then. For example, mine is the warden commander and is using the big eared blood mage guy from Warden's Keep to study a way to essentially become Dracula/the Emperor, stealing life to prolong her own existence and her reign of terror. Leave my headcanon alone! It's a human!



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I agree that the Warden had a good story. As for the riding off into the sunset ending, in my eyes thats only applicable to the ending of Origins\Awakening. By the time of Inquisition the only LI thats still with the warden is Zevran. Inquisition raises more questions than anwers regarding the warden imo. What are the lands to the west they are in? What is this supposed lead they are following? Must be pretty promising or important for every live warden to leave their LI behind, excluding Zevran. If they really want to leave the Warden behind, they probably shouldnt have mentioned they are on an important quest that could have a big impact. So can you really blame people for wanting to know how this turns out?

I think most people with living wardens just want to know if they were successful in trying to cure the calling and if they reunited with their LI. At least thats all I want to know. Sadly we don't get that and now it seems we might not find out. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what they decide to do with the curing the calling business.
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As i said, If Bioware is trying that, then they are failing horribly at it. Pointing out that your warden is on a quest that could lead to a major plot development is a horrible way to try to step away from him/her. If Bioware truly wanted to distance themselves from the Warden then tying him/her to a huge plot such as Curing the Calling was a mistake. I don't need my warden back but I want them to get a proper ending. No more of this Vanishing Bullsh!t, what I want is closure.


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i was kind off jealous that my love interest Leliana didn't have a kid with my Warden but after seeing how morrigan's kid turned out that doesn't match with their wardens, i'm sort of thankful it never happened cause it would be one of those head cannon types i'd hate to go through.

 

Well, Weekes confirmed at Pax East that if a romanced Leliana becomes Divine she'll marry the Warden, so at least we have that going for us.

 

As far as kids go, since Gaider confirmed that Warden/Alistair and Alistair/Anora will have children in the future, I'm sure the same might apply for Warden/Leliana. Of course, kids would be entirely left to headcanon. :)



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As i said, If Bioware is trying that, then they are failing horribly at it. Pointing out that your warden is on a quest that could lead to a major plot development is a horrible way to try to step away from him/her. If Bioware truly wanted to distance themselves from the Warden then tying him/her to a huge plot such as Curing the Calling was a mistake. I don't need my warden back but I want them to get a proper ending. No more of this Vanishing Bullsh!t, what I want is closure.

As I said elsewhere, the only final closure is death, and nobody wants that. As long as the Warden is alive, you can always ask "what comes next" and there will always be some new story in their live. I propose that we stop asking what comes next, else Bioware will kill the Warden just to shut up the incessant begging to bring them back.


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As far as kids go, since Gaider confirmed that Warden/Alistair and Alistair/Anora will have children in the future, I'm sure the same might apply for Warden/Leliana. Of course, kids would be entirely left to headcanon. :)


Leliana is nearly 40 years old, I think that ship has sailed. They'll just adopt nugs or something, works for female Wardens that way too.

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Leliana is nearly 40 years old, I think that ship has sailed. They'll just adopt nugs or something, works for female Wardens that way too.

 

Not to veer completely off topic, but a woman of forty can get pregnant. She might have to try a little harder than a younger lady (which is good news for Leliana's male Warden LI, lol), but it's far from impossible. 

Having said that, the Leliana from Inquisition doesn't seem like the sort who'd want children to me. She's grown too cynical about the world, and she's preoccupied with important things.



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Not to veer completely off topic, but a woman of forty can get pregnant. She might have to try a little harder than a younger lady (which is good news for Leliana's male Warden LI, lol), but it's far from impossible. 

 

I know that, but with medieval level health care and a man who was borderline sterile as a Warden, the chances aren't very good there. I guess there's always magic



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Leliana is nearly 40 years old, I think that ship has sailed. They'll just adopt nugs or something, works for female Wardens that way too.


I don't think a nug can inherit the throne of Ferelden. A mabari maybe, but not a nug.

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if anything give the warden there own little dlc bout them curing the calling and then let us choose how they retire depending on our keep choices. i don't want a codex saying they succeeded or failed this important mission. most people won't accept the warden failing. they just have to put there thinking caps on and give the warden the last journey. then the story is officially over until then the story will always continue.

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Leliana is nearly 40 years old, I think that ship has sailed. They'll just adopt nugs or something, works for female Wardens that way too.

The average age of menopause IRL is 51.

 

Why everybody thinks that women can't have children after 40 escapes me.



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The average age of menopause IRL is 51.

 

Why everybody thinks that women can't have children after 40 escapes me.

 

Because, while not impossible, the chances do significantly drop around then? 

 

Not to mention that number has changed with the times. This is a medieval setting.



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Because, while not impossible, the chances do significantly drop around then?

 

It significantly drops around the age of 51, on average, during the onset of menopause. Hence 51 being the average. I posted that plain as day, I didn't think anyone could misconstrue it, but it happened. Some women experience symptoms of menopause up to around a year or 2 before menopause itself, so assuming an average of 51, Leliana would be good to go until she's around 49. Of course, this is just an average, and Leliana could begin menopause earlier or later.

 

 

 

Not to mention that number has changed with the times. This is a medieval setting.

 

A medieval setting with alchemical medicine and various kinds of other medicine (both mundane and magical) which are said to be able to increase fertility.


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Personally, I'm glad we're not seeing the Warden again. Their tale felt very self contained, and I'm happy to leave them as the Hero of Ferelden. I don't need them to also get titles like "Defeater of Elven Gods" or whatever else we might see. Patrick Weekes has been working with DA for quite a while, so I have high hopes that we'll continue to see a high quality of world lore and characters.



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Meh BW screwed up my Hawke despite having three obvious character types to work with. I would not want them to touch my warden. Just nope nope. Please leave past PCs the heck alone if we're not gonna be playing them.


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