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[rlro]

Hey everybody, I've been reading through various threads tonight and something occurred to me that I'd like to investigate tomorrow. It would be incredibly helpful if I could get some clarification of conditions that you are experiencing the following when spawning in a level:

 

• Loss of control
• Loss of interface elements
• Stuck on black screen (but able to hear audio)
• Character dialogue not triggering

Specifically, are you ever the host when this occurs, does it happen only when joining a game in progress, does it occur after a host migration?

 

Thanks in advance:)

 

Loss of control only happens when joining an ongoing game. It is *not* directly related to lag or bad connections, as some mistakenly have said, because it happens fairly often even when playing with friends that have good connections and have low ping TTL (people that live near me). What I can say is that everytime I get stuck, I see a weird graphic glitch, like "entering the fade" before my character appears.

 

Stuck on black screen happens 100% of the times when you start a game whose host is away from you (I mean, there is a high ping TTL between you and the host) - it never happens when joining an ongoing game and it also never happens when there is no lag. It is possible to know that you'll be stuck in the black screen because when the game starts you don't hear the off audio and you see an image of the characters with their weapons down.

 

I don't know what you mean by loss of interface elements (so I probably have never had this glitch).

[hellbiter88]

Hey everybody, I've been reading through various threads tonight and something occurred to me that I'd like to investigate tomorrow. It would be incredibly helpful if I could get some clarification of conditions that you are experiencing the following when spawning in a level:

 

• Loss of control
• Loss of interface elements
• Stuck on black screen (but able to hear audio)
• Character dialogue not triggering

Specifically, are you ever the host when this occurs, does it happen only when joining a game in progress, does it occur after a host migration?

 

Thanks in advance:)

 

I don't think I've noticed this being related to host migration. Character dialogue rarely triggers when joining a match (for me). Other times I will join and I will have another character's voice. Black screen w/ audio happens sometimes. loss of interface elements occurs in which the abilities are "greyed out", making it difficult to determine which spells are on cooldown or not. This is remedied (with a mage) by activating an ability that has an AoE circle, and then cancelling the ability (like barrier, fire mine, immolate, etc.).

 

loss of control is the biggest problem when joining a match in progress. Occassionally, the character will enter with his weapon sheathed and then he will unsheathe it and be able to move around, but most of the time my character will just get frozen in place, able to use abilities but unable to move.

-----I managed to clear a whole level with a group by using controlled fade step's though

 

I never host, so this is my experience entering into a game in progress with another host. I have never been lucky enough to experience what might happen when the host migrates during one of these conditions.

[HeroicMass]

the few times that I have had this bug were all when joining a game in progress.  I was able to use powers, but movement was not possible.  

[ALTBOULI]

the few times that I have had this bug were all when joining a game in progress.  I was able to use powers, but movement was not possible.

*cough*Leaching!*cough*

[Kenny Bania]

the few times that I have had this bug were all when joining a game in progress.  I was able to use powers, but movement was not possible.  

 

How's that different from the games you actually "play"?

[AbyssMessiah]

I've been the host when my game has randomly crashed, ive been the host when someone dropped in part way through a game and I loose all sound with a sort of snap sound in my ear (its just he game audio that's missing everything else is working perfectly if I hit alt +tab+ these problems often happen when off host sometimes they even happen when you joined a game lobby and all readied up together ....

 

 

ending up stuck on the ceiling is my least favourite bug that happens when I play one of the dagger dwarfs and try to attack something that's lower down than me (on stairs) and somehow instead of touching them my char will leap into the roof.....(never happens when hosting)

For loss of sound I can add more info - I, too, happen to get this bug and I can`t pinpoint it so far - I cannot repeat it. But it comes with a very slight system volume decrease - as in, while I play with the sound "cut", my system seems to drop 1 or 2% volume overall (I listen to music while playing so I can tell). Upon game restart, the system volume is back to normal. Also, I can hear any voice chat just fine when the bug occurs.

[teltow]

• Loss of control
• Loss of interface elements

Both predominantly when joining a game in progress.

• Stuck on black screen (but able to hear audio)

Predominantly when the first game I try to join per session is already in progress. Sometimes the second or third too. I never hear any audio. The first game per session also takes a lot more time to load than later games when I don't get stuck on the black screen.

I loose all sound with a sort of snap sound in my ear (its just he game audio that's missing everything else is working perfectly

I've got that too every once in a while. Blamed it on my system (PC) until now..


So, I was under the impression that these ^^ are quite common occurrences. But if BioMasika needs to collect data here, does that mean that most people don't get these bugs?

[Cwyn]

I've gotten this bug quite a few times when joining a game in progress. The only workaround I've found is getting killed by a NPC once, which can be difficult to do if the party is far ahead of you.

Incidentally, you CAN maneuver around a bit with certain combat abilities.

[Shadohz]

Hey everybody, I've been reading through various threads tonight and something occurred to me that I'd like to investigate tomorrow. It would be incredibly helpful if I could get some clarification of conditions that you are experiencing the following when spawning in a level:

 

• Loss of control
• Loss of interface elements
• Stuck on black screen (but able to hear audio)
• Character dialogue not triggering

Specifically, are you ever the host when this occurs, does it happen only when joining a game in progress, does it occur after a host migration?

 

Thanks in advance:)

http://forum.bioware...that-bad-is-it/

and

http://forum.bioware.../#entry18709998

 

I trashed my previous notes but the above links should be pretty informative. The game operates nominally around 215-240 Kbps. Randomly it spikes in the upwards of 500 Kbps. The "normal" spikes tend to occur during game startup/ending, salvaging, and buying loot (i.e. when downloading from EA servers). You can manipulate the results while monitoring the bandwidth the same as I did. If you want to get fancy with it you can try MLabs, but a basic DD-WRT router (or one with bandwidth reporting is sufficient). If you need additional feedback let me know.

[nranola]

Hey everybody, I've been reading through various threads tonight and something occurred to me that I'd like to investigate tomorrow. It would be incredibly helpful if I could get some clarification of conditions that you are experiencing the following when spawning in a level:

 

• Loss of control
• Loss of interface elements
• Stuck on black screen (but able to hear audio)
• Character dialogue not triggering

Specifically, are you ever the host when this occurs, does it happen only when joining a game in progress, does it occur after a host migration?

 

Thanks in advance:)

 

I'm glad you're looking into this!

 

To preface, all of these problems occur when I'm not the host. I can't confirm if any of these issues persist after a host migration, because most times when a host migration happens the host is passed onto me, so yeah. Hope this helps!

 

1. Loss of control

I'm assuming this means not able to move? I find that this only happens to me when I join an ongoing match. Often I'm still able to use skills despite not being able to move around, but there have been occurrences when I'm not able to use skills on top of not being able to move around.

 

2. Loss of interface elements

This happens to me when I enter a game from the very start (in conjunction with black screen), or when I enter ongoing matches (in conjunction with no movement bug). Although I did have one odd case recently of my Archer losing the interface for only the stamina bar and the skill bar; I was still able to move around and use skills just fine.

 

3. Stuck on black screen

Mostly happens to me when I enter a game from the very start. A definite sign of getting black screen from the start when the narrator dialogue doesn't trigger. There may have been cases that I get black screen when I join an ongoing game, but I often just restart the game when loading takes too long, so I'm not able to confirm that one.

 

4. Character dialogue not triggering

I've only had this happen a few times, I believe, and all of them upon joining ongoing matches.

 

To add, there's another bug that happens that a lot of people like to call "going to Narnia". What happens basically is that upon entering a new zone, the door doesn't appear, and the landscape beyond seems to not load properly, causing the player to traverse this weird angular valley of a level. Rejoining the game is the only way to fix it. Almost certain that this only happens to me when I join an ongoing game.

[ghostwheel]

Glad to say that this seems to be fixed with the latest patch.  Thanks!

[JRandall0308]

Maybe for you, but I still get variations on this glitch. Just had one earlier today in fact.

 

Typically: load into game. No U.I. Cannot control character movement, only camera. Can use abilities. After several minutes, typically regain control and game functions normally.

XBOX 360. Not the host.