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[KaiserShep]

The Alliance doesn't even bother to check the crash site and collect dog tags of the Normandy's crew. They even have the audacity to ask Shepard to do that.

Hah, yeah, but look at it this way: Do you want the ALLIANCE to get the XP and extra eezo?

[SwobyJ]

I think the Normandy SR-2 in ME3 still edges out - especially through use of EDI.

 

But yes, the Salarians be tricky! I remember that War Asset entry.

[Vortex13]

I am not a fan of Cerberus, or their 'human superiority' complex, but I will say that without them Shepard would have never been brought back, nor would an upgraded Normandy SR-2 (with EDI installed) been built. As others have said, the Council and Alliance didn't even bother to investigate the Normandy SR-1's crash site, or at the very least try and recover the bodies of those who had died. I will say that other organizations would have had the capability and economic power to bring Shepard back; like say a Volus funded medical research group; but no one else really had the desire to bring Shepard back. So those two things that ultimately aided the galaxy overall, I will give to Cerberus. I would question Cerberus's actions in ME 1 & 3 though.

 

 

For ME 1 I don't particularly see how feeding troops to thresher maws, or killing a Rear Admiral really helped humanity, but even if those had been for our benefit, it's quite obvious that Cerberus; like the rest of the galaxy; was caught with their pants down when it came to recognizing and trying to stop Sovereign. For all of their plans and schemes, if Sovereign would have succeeded, Cerberus would be dead like everyone else. Which is why I think Cerberus was so adamant about bringing Shepard back in ME 2; they realized that they had just barley dodged a bullet, and that Shepard was the only person (at the time) that truly realized the threat of the Reapers.

 

 

For ME 3 it is hard to see what part of Cerberus's activities where influenced by indoctrination, and which were not. Sure, we can say that TIM fighting Shepard and the Alliance on the grounds of controlling the Reapers was justified, but would Cerberus have really been that hostile, that dismissive of Shepard, "You have outlived your usefulness" etc. if they weren't under the influences of indoctrination?

[RatThing]

None. The "pro humanity" or the human centric positions should be represented by the Alliance.

[General TSAR]

The retconning of Cerberus into every defining Mass Effect event with the Foundation comics was disgusting. Let Cerberus die, they were a curiosity in the first Mass Effect, tolerable in Mass Effect 2 and just a tumor in Mass Effect 3. Their over usage makes them now look goofy and incompetent, please no more.

As much as I love Cerberus, yeah I agree with this.

 

BioWare took a perfectly gray organization and ruined it by making them the Sith Empire.

[God]

General Tsar, I've never said it (and indeed never noticed it until now), but I love how Asuka is poking Vladimir Putin in the face.

 

Best anime ever, Eva.

[General TSAR]

General Tsar, I've never said it (and indeed never noticed it until now), but I love how Asuka is poking Vladimir Putin in the face.

Indeed.

 

Asuka's the best and Putin's so ruthless. 

 

Best anime ever, Eva.

I see what you did there. 

[God]

Ever read Re-take? Not big on Doujinshi, but man, it's damn good. Probably the best fan-made work ever IMO.

 

I've been on an Eva kick for the last week. 

[General TSAR]

Ever read Re-take? Not big on Doujinshi, but man, it's damn good. Probably the best fan-made work ever IMO.

I have not, regrettably. 

 

I hear the Re-Take has hentai and I really don't want to see any Evangelion character in that scenario.

I've been on an Eva kick for the last week.

Nice, will you also be watching the rebuilds?

[God]

I have not, regrettably. 

 

I hear the Re-Take has hentai and I really don't want to see any Evangelion character in that scenario.

 

 

 

There's an All-Ages version that omits most of the smut and all of the hentai (I've only ever read the standard Adult version). Very good if you're an A/S shipper like me, without going overboard. I know a lot of people don't like pairings, but this one does it very well, in a very Evangelion manner. It has a much more... definitive end to the original, though in some parts towards the end, it can get pretty mind-screwy. 

 

Here's the All-Ages version.

 

Here's Re-Take After (read it after you finish the all ages version).

 

Nice, will you also be watching the rebuilds?

 

 

Oh yeah. I've seen all three. They're good, though 3.0 gets way too convoluted, even by Eva standards. Plus, I'm not a fan of the Shinji/Rei pairing. Too incestual, plus Rei is creepy. Not a fan of that type of character. Way too... Japanese. It's where the culture divide gets too big. 

 

Damn it, now I need to change my Avatar. I blame you for this!

[General TSAR]

 

 

There's an All-Ages version that omits most of the smut and all of the hentai (I've only ever read the standard Adult version). Very good if you're an A/S shipper like me, without going overboard. I know a lot of people don't like pairings, but this one does it very well, in a very Evangelion manner. It has a much more... definitive end to the original, though in some parts towards the end, it can get pretty mind-screwy. 

 

Here's the All-Ages version.

 

Here's Re-Take After (read it after you finish the all ages version).

Bro, you are awesome! 

 

I'm gonna spend a good chunk of my spring break reading that.

 

Regarding shipping, I also ship Asuka and Shinji; they deserve happiness. Shame a lot of that shipping contains hentai, I'm okay with fan service but it needs to be reined in. 

Oh yeah. I've seen all three. They're good, though 3.0 gets way too convoluted, even by Eva standards. Plus, I'm not a fan of the Shinji/Rei pairing. Too incestual, plus Rei is creepy. Not a fan of that type of character. Way too... Japanese. It's where the culture divide gets too big.

Yeah Rei is ....a bit creepy. But I suppose that's Anno's way of telling Otakus that they are sick since Rei is the personification of the "ultimate waifu". It backfired.

 

If you have time to read fanfiction, check this out:

 

Post 3.33

https://www.fanficti...989/1/Reticence

Contains R/S+A/S.

 

If Eva 3.0+1.0 was this, I would die a happy man.

Damn it, now I need to change my Avatar. I blame you for this!

Glad I could help. 

 

Cute Avatar. 

[God]

Bro, you are awesome! 

 

I'm gonna spend a good chunk of my spring break reading that.

 

Regarding shipping, I also ship Asuka and Shinji; they deserve happiness. Shame a lot of that shipping contains hentai, I'm okay with fan service but it needs to be reined in. 

 

 

 

The shipping communities always focus on too much smut, and not enough development. Plus, nudity and sex is just rarely ever done tastefully. I'm fine with it when it exists if it's good, but too often, it feels like it's thrown on for fan-service or author appeal. I agree on this count here, especially considering all the characters are all 14 years old, which made a lot of the sex in the adult version rather mortifying for my 25 year old self to read. 

 

But yeah, Asuka and Shinji definitely deserve happiness, and they deserve it with each other. They are as close to a canon couple (sans Kaji/Misato) that Eva comes too. 

Yeah Rei is ....a bit creepy. But I suppose that's Anno's way of telling Otakus that they are sick since Rei is the personification of the "ultimate waifu". It backfired.

 

If you have time to read fanfiction, check this out:

 

Post 3.33

https://www.fanficti...989/1/Reticence

Contains R/S+A/S.

 

If Eva 3.0+1.0 was this, I would die a happy man.

 

 

 

She's still pretty cool, though I don't see the big thing about her. I know the Japanese love her for the aforementioned reasons. But when you analyze what she really is in the narrative, Rei is just so... unsettlingly creepy. After seeing EoE for the first time a few years ago and letting the ideas stew in behind the symbolism, I'm pretty sure she's God. Well, half God. The other half is Kaworu. Who is just as creepy. Some of the few characters to legit freak me out. Probably how Shinji views both. The show has a weird Oedipus complex to it.

 

Which is why I ship Rei/Kaworu. 

 

I'll check it out. Granted, I think the retelling is going to either have Shinji go for Rei or Kaworu. Message me whenever you finish Re-Take, and we'll talk about it.

 

Also, pretty freaky to know that this is the year we all get tang'd. I wonder if that big hole in the ozone in Antarctica is just Adam?

 

Glad I could help. 

 

Cute Avatar. 

 

 

Dancing Asuka.

 

It's a gif. I wonder if I can actually get it to dance. The whole gif is in my profile.

[General TSAR]

The shipping communities always focus on too much smut, and not enough development. Plus, nudity and sex is just rarely ever done tastefully. I'm fine with it when it exists if it's good, but too often, it feels like it's thrown on for fan-service or author appeal. I agree on this count here, especially considering all the characters are all 14 years old, which made a lot of the sex in the adult version rather mortifying for my 25 year old self to read. 

Speaking of re-take, re-take after is relatively clean of smut right?

 

She's still pretty cool, though I don't see the big thing about her. I know the Japanese love her for the aforementioned reasons. But when you analyze what she really is in the narrative, Rei is just so... unsettlingly creepy. After seeing EoE for the first time a few years ago and letting the ideas stew in behind the symbolism, I'm pretty sure she's God. Well, half God. The other half is Kaworu. Who is just as creepy. Some of the few characters to legit freak me out. Probably how Shinji views both. The show has a weird Oedipus complex to it.

Kaworu? I thought Rei's other half was Yui. 

 

But yeah, Shinji has a none-too-subtle Oedipus Complex in regards to Rei. Still figuring out what he feels for Kaworu though, deep platonic love or romantic love? 

 

Which is why I ship Rei/Kaworu.

Aww the perfect doom couple. 

 

I'll check it out. Granted, I think the retelling is going to either have Shinji go for Rei or Kaworu. Message me whenever you finish Re-Take, and we'll talk about it.

Count on it. 

Also, pretty freaky to know that this is the year we all get tang'd. I wonder if that big hole in the ozone in Antarctica is just Adam?

Adam is sure taking his sweet time, probably relaxing on a giant glacier and shooting god rays at penguins, icebergs and hippies.    

[God]

 

Speaking of re-take, re-take after is relatively clean of smut right?

 

Kaworu? I thought Rei's other half was Yui. 

 

But yeah, Shinji has a none-too-subtle Oedipus Complex in regards to Rei. Still figuring out what he feels for Kaworu though, deep platonic love or romantic love? 

 

 

Yeah. Avoid page 31, but otherwise, it's clear entirely. Otherwise, you'll get a nice, graphic view of Asuka taking it from Shinji.

 

Kaworu is the other half of God, by what I mean. Rei is Yui's clone, yeah, but she's also much more. She's basically the human vessel for Lililth's soul. Kaworu is an Angel that also houses the soul of Adam. They're both basically one half of God. Though Gendo actually holds the vessel of Adam. 

 

It's some confusing stuff. Then again, that's Eva. It doesn't make a lot of sense period. And it portrays scarily accurate mental disorders. It not making sense to us is probably because we're seeing it from Shinji and Asuka's point of view most of the time. And they've basically lost all sanity by that point anyway.

 

According to Anno, Shinji's love for Kaworu is based upon Shinji's vision of the perfect self. Kaworu is what Shinji sees to be the perfect being.

 

For your viewing pleasure, EvAbridged. 

 

[Shepard-Tali]

Hmmmmm, I wish I knew enough about Evangelion to continue your conversation, but I haven't watched it in years

On the topic of Cerberus, I hope they won't be involved, and I don't think they will be if the game is set after The Reaper War, since they basically got wiped out by Shepard, I think their story came to a natural end anyway, they became too evil and indoctrinated to be allowed to survive and got put down by the Alliance. Even if the game isn't set after the reaper war, I hope they don't make an appearance, they got over done. I'll never get over how they went from being a shadowy organisation with three cells to having a massive army of beefed up cronies.

That said, I can't believe I saw someone say that someone else would have resurrected Shepard if Cerberus hadn't... I mean, he was with them for two years getting rebuilt and when he got back the alliance and the other council races, who were basically the only people who would have the resources to try and bring him back, had left him for dead. No matter how much you dislike Cerberus, you have to give them credit for bringing him back

[God]

The art of denial at it's finest. I think BW went too far with how much they were willing to indulge certain fantasies and certain playstyles.

 

More realism, less black and white moral nonsense. 

[General TSAR]

Yeah. Avoid page 31, but otherwise, it's clear entirely. Otherwise, you'll get a nice, graphic view of Asuka taking it from Shinji.

Ugh, thanks for the heads up.

 

The All Ages one still contains nudity, but it's not too bad. We already saw breasts and ass in the rebuilds and those films are rated PG-13, but otherwise, Re-Take is amazing. 

 

Still don't know if I'll check out Retake After, don't want to get into hot water with the Feds because of the website or the content.

 

They've been cracking down espically hard on Hentai Doujinshi these last couple years or maybe I'm just overly paranoid.

Kaworu is the other half of God, by what I mean. Rei is Yui's clone, yeah, but she's also much more. She's basically the human vessel for Lililth's soul. Kaworu is an Angel that also houses the soul of Adam. They're both basically one half of God. Though Gendo actually holds the vessel of Adam. 

Oh right, that embryo Kaji brought with him.

 

For your viewing pleasure, EvAbridged. 

 

 

Classic. Shame Gigguk is too busy to make more EvAbridged. 

[General TSAR]

On the topic of Cerberus, I hope they won't be involved, and I don't think they will be if the game is set after The Reaper War, since they basically got wiped out by Shepard, 

Well TIM did say Cerberus is an idea meaning someone else will take up the banner eventually.

 

Even though they stopped a galactic genocidal threat, the species of the galaxy will resume watching each other with suspicion and resume making contingency plans. Humanity will also do so, and factions with Cerberus ideals will emerge. 

[God]

Well TIM did say Cerberus is an idea meaning someone else will take up the banner eventually.

 

Even though they stopped a galactic genocidal threat, the species of the galaxy will resume watching each other with suspicion and resume making contingency plans. Humanity will also do so, and factions with Cerberus ideals will emerge. 

 

My Shepard will be that man if headcanon can help it.

 

But yeah, anyone who thinks its peace and love it a fool. 

[God]

Ugh, thanks for the heads up.

 

The All Ages one still contains nudity, but it's not too bad. We already saw breasts and ass in the rebuilds and those films are rated PG-13, but otherwise, Re-Take is amazing. 

 

Still don't know if I'll check out Retake After, don't want to get into hot water with the Feds because of the website or the content.

 

They've been cracking down espically hard on Hentai Doujinshi these last couple years or maybe I'm just overly paranoid.

 

Classic. Shame Gigguk is too busy to make more EvAbridged. 

 

You won't get in trouble with the feds. I mean, the whole story of ReTake After isn't necessary to the plot of the rest of the story. It's more of an epilogue than anything else. A good one.

 

And ReTake is way too popular for them to really go into it. I doubt the feds know or care about a Doujinshi manga that is the unofficial sequel to End of Evangelion. So I think you might just be a bit paranoid.

 

Gigguk made 3 more of them. Were you able to see them?

[Shepard-Tali]

The art of denial at it's finest. I think BW went too far with how much they were willing to indulge certain fantasies and certain playstyles.
 
More realism, less black and white moral nonsense.

Whose denial? I don't get what you mean in this post

[God]

The guy who said someone else would have resurrected Shepard.

[Vortex13]

The guy who said someone else would have resurrected Shepard.

I am still of the belief that someone else could have brought Sheaprd back, it's just that Cerberus was the only ones with the desire to do so.