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[AresKeith]

Because Stroud appeared in DA2 talking about something secret if Alistair wasn't a Warden

[KaiserShep]

Stroud is the only character that cannot die under any circumstances before Inquisition. Sure, BioWare has resurrected characters before, but I'd rather they do this as seldom as possible.

[AresKeith]

Stroud is expendable that no one will care....

 

Ok and?

[NaclynE]

I don't know about y'all, but when it came down to the choice between Hawke or Stroud, I barely batted an eye as I chose to save Hawke. I mean, the game didn't even try to get us attached to him, we barely got to know him.

Why didn't they give us Sigrun, Velanna, or seriously Oghren or Nathaniel? ...okay I understand why they didn't use alcoholic, can't take anything serious, Oghren. But Nathaniel seems to be pretty popular.

It could be pretty easily explained as well, "Oh Anders introduced me to one of his old Grey Warden friends/they contacted me because of my friendship with Anders."

Granted, the majority of the people would probably still choose Hawke, but at least it would be a difficult and emotional decision.

Also, it's not like if people didn't play Awakening it would be any different for them, Nathaniel would just be like Stroud to them, and amazing emotional feelings for the rest of us.

Plus, I think it would be a cool throwback to Origins.

 

Oh that's what you were talking about. When i saw this subject I was thinking about either the warden you can create just for DAA (It is possible to do) or that one guy that partially runs the keep with your warden. I cannot remember his name but he co helps with your politicing by giving advice and the minus side of possible decisions like if you do give the food to the villagers to end the riot your troops won't have any food. I think he got killed or at least injured but survived? Regardless I kind of do agree Stroud/Logain seemed kind of weak to kill off in the fade so a different decision may be better.

[Aren]

I choose Stroud/Loghain over Hawke because

 

a.) Loghain is a badass

 

and

 

b.)  I normally recruit and save the Wardens, so I prefer that they have some semblance of leadership and organization.

I choose Marian Hawke over Alistair because

a) He is a whiny fool

and

 I normally recruit and save the Wardens, so I prefer that they will be  free from that Fool.

[KaiserShep]

Stroud is expendable that no one will care....

 

They're all expendable.

 

That doesn't really change the fact I stated. Every other Warden character prior to this game can either be dead or have a prior engagement of some sort, like Alistair being king, and Anders, who outright abandons the order no matter what. Besides, if Stroud feeling more expendable is an issue, a player can always go back and have Loghain or Alistair be the Warden contact instead. We don't need to go through the full gamut of characters from the past.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Well, from my Adaar's perspective:

 

Varric, this dwarf I met agter the Conclave went to crap, introduced me to his friend, Hawke, who seems to know a bit about Corypheus. I don't know if I trust this Hawke guy or not, but Varric does and, Varric I at least know.

 

Now this Hawke introduces me to this warden guy he knows, [insert Logain, Alastair or Stroud] and, I'm suppose to trust all three of them.

 

I don't know Varric all that well and the other two I just met but, here we are in the Fade and I have to choose to rescue either Hawke or the Warden. Well, I guess Hawke because there are more Grey Wardens he did fight Corypheus once, so he probably knows more than a Warden. Besides Wardens are known for being tight lipped, even id what they know could help save the world so, yeah Hawke gets to come back with us.

 

Later: Well ****, Hawke didn't tell me anything more and, left me to figure Cory out on my own anyway, maybe I should have saved the Warden, or not. Can't see as it matter now.

[robertmarilyn]

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God... does anyone here miss Steve Blum? Cause i sure do, makes me believe bioware is too cheap to hire him back.  And Steve doesn't have to voice Oghren, remember the other NPCs like Gorim and First Enchanter Irving?

 

 

I loved FFVII for Vincent, who couldn't be more different from Oghren. 

[RawThunderHustle]

I think they should have added others like Nathaniel, The Warden, or Carver/Bethany depending on your choices.

[snackrat]

"Sigrun, Velanna, or seriously Oghren or Nathaniel"...

....because with the exception of Oghren, literally all of these people can be dead and/or never recruited. Nathaniel in particular can be straight-up executed, so they couldn't pull a "oh but that wasn't Anders body just a different burnt mage they thought was him"-style of resurrection.

...even Oghren can probably die if you leave him at an un-upgraded keep.

 

Besides, the more Warden possiblilites, the more dialogue they need to record. Stroud is a perfect choice, imo. You have the two that matter most (Alis/Log) for someone will plenty of Warden experience, and you have a third option you know can always be there without raising eyebrows as to how they made it there.

 

As for Hawke sibling, they only have like 1/6 chance being Warden - 4/6 being dead, 1/6 templar/circle - assuming all player choices are evenly distributed, and you read class choices as mage/non-mage to even Carver/Bethany stats.

Probably fair considering mage was both the marketing default, and hardly anyone played rogue according to metrics. Seriously y u no play rogue :c.

[KaiserShep]

And why the heck would the Hawke sibling be a senior anything in the order? Whoever was supposed to be a Warden was also supposed to be a veteran that outranked a fair amount of them.

[KaiserShep]

Not sure why anyone would mention Oghren in DA2. The only characters that we met from Awakening didn't like him at all.

[Phoe77]

I don't think the choice suffers much when Stroud is the warden representative.  I may not have as extensive of a history with the character, but I agonize over leaving him in the Fade more than I ever did with Loghain and more than I would if I could leave Oghren behind.  Then again, Origins and Awakening both do a bad job of getting me invested in Oghren's character.

 

Either way, Stroud serves the purpose perfectly.  He's a warden with seniority in the order and without any sort of entanglements that we know about.  He's the least problematic choice I can think of outside of just creating a completely new warden that no one has ever heard of.  

[Ranadiel Marius]

And what? Stroud is not like Alistair or Loghain who had more personal connection to the player. Seriously, some players may not have played DA2 would think who the hell is Stroud? 

And some people may not have played DAA and would have 0 idea who any of your proposed replacements are. So why does it matter that some people out there don't know who Stroud is when your proposed replacement has the exact same potential problem? O.o

[KaiserShep]

Here's my idea: no one is left behind in the Fade, and you can simply choose to kick the Warden and all of his friends out of Orlais to rot in the north, and Hawke becomes an asset on the war table or something.

[snackrat]

maybe in some people's worldstate, but not mine seeing as how in my playthrough he survived the assault on Vigil's Keep and I patched his relationship with Felsi. And all i got in the end was a stupid lousy painting of Oghren's concept art which can be seen near the bar at the Hanged Man in DA2 and not even a freaking reference to his entire existence in DA2 and DAI.

 

Good for you! But as I bolded, someone out there WILL have killed/lost them all. They can't have the game just crash to desktop because they haven't allowed for it, or have people come back. The game is written for all the customers, not ShadowHawk28-oh-and-I-guess-some-others-can-play-it-too.

 

And even if it wasn't all of them, they should have six possible Warden Allies depending on who's alive? What part of their line count and VA budget is going on the chopping block because you cannot handle the Handlebar Moustache That is Stroud?

If several are alive, which one arrives? Loghain and Alis are mutually exclusive, you can only have one, the other, or neither.

 

They need to have one option who is always there NO MATTER WHAT choices you could POSSIBLY have made - because someone out there has made them.

[DarthEmpress]

Why not Oghren or Nathaniel instead of Stroud?  Or Sigrun!  Even Velanna...

 

Bioware's brought characters back from the dead anyway so if they all "died" in Awakening they could still pop up again.