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[KaiserShep]

Honestly, the choice should have been between Hawke and his/her sibling (Carver or Bethany).  If Carver or Bethany were not Grey Wardens then Stroud should have been the substitute.  The siblings would have made it a much more emotional choice and, either way, Varric would have been screwed.  

 

Maker no

 

I really could not disagree more with this, because first and foremost, it would completely ruin both Hawke and the sibling. There should be no way that Hawke and sibling would automatically be willing to abandon the only close family they have left in the Fade. It shouldn't matter how much they object. Both should be too stubborn to just let this go down like that.

[Fireheart]

Well, there are still 3 more Dragon Age games to go, so there is still plenty of time for the Keep's choices to have a great impact in future games. Plus, some of the choices might even play out in future dai dlcs. Still, with all the choices the Keep had, I'm surprised they had so little consequence on dai. I'm thinking that the Keep, most of all, was just supposed to be a refresher for people who haven't played in a while, rather than actually really affect the game too much.

[AresKeith]

Well, there are still 3 more Dragon Age games to go, so there is still plenty of time for the Keep's choices to have a great impact in future games. Plus, some of the choices might even play out in future dai dlcs. Still, with all the choices the Keep had, I'm surprised they had so little consequence on dai. I'm thinking that the Keep, most of all, was just supposed to be a refresher for people who haven't played in a while, rather than actually really affect the game too much.

 

Bioware has said before that not every choice in the Keep is gonna have a big impact on future games 

[Fireheart]

Maker no

 

I really could not disagree more with this, because first and foremost, it would completely ruin both Hawke and the sibling. There should be no way that Hawke and sibling would automatically be willing to abandon the only close family they have left in the Fade. It shouldn't matter how much they object. Both should be too stubborn to just let this go down like that.

*fixed it for you

 

Especially since Hawke is the older sibling? What older sibling would leave their younger sibling behind to risk their life to save yours? It wouldn't even make sense, would not even be a "choice" situation. If anything, they would choose to stay together in the Fade.

[AresKeith]

You're right since these "choices" don't have a big impact on future games. Way to go Bioware....

 

Expecting every choice to have a big impact on future games is setting yourself up for disappointment

 

So way to go to those people *shrugs*

[KaiserShep]

I guess the Developers so called vow to their fans that, compared to its predecessors, the decisions they made throughout the series will have a greater impact on the story and that the player will be given more control over their gaming experience was nothing but a bold faced lie.

 

So what about those people who ended up having to choose between Alistair/Loghain and Hawke, thinking that it was great to have one of them be a Warden instead well before this game? Did it not impact their playthrough? I mean, I found the idea of Loghain redeeming himself as a Warden fairly compelling in the beginning, so I imagine for people who really liked his character and thought the same, this might have been fairly tough, especially if they also liked Hawke a great deal.

 

You can't rightly claim that no decisions make any impact, just because it's not the impact that affects you the most personally.

[AresKeith]

Wouldn't make a difference. Any choices you make in DAI will have very little consequence on the next Dragon Age game.

 

Why would they if we're going to a part of Thedas that has nothing to do with Southern Thedas?

[KaiserShep]

Wouldn't make a difference. Any choices you make in DAI will have very little consequence on the next Dragon Age game.

 

 

That's a totally different argument, though. Let's say that Oghren was the Warden contact in this game, and you chose whether he lived or died. As a fan of Oghren, this obviously impacts you in a meaningful way. What difference does it make if this affects the next game? You already dealt with his character, and his fate was in your hands yet again.

 

And besides, does everything have to create a totally new plot line or have some kind of ripple effect. It's just not realistic, especially not for a series that is going on for possibly 2 or more games.

[caradoc2000]

What I want to know is what Stroud is doing if Loghain is the warden

Waxing the moustache.

[DementedSheep]

Don't all of them have the potential to be dead, not wardens or have run off? although that hasn't stopped bioware before. 

[Richiesdisplayname]

I don't get everyone saying "It had to be Stroud - too many variables otherwise."

 

Are you kidding? There are a TON of Keep choices. You simply make a "Did Nathaniel take the joining?" and "Is Nathaniel alive?" choice. Boom. Problem solved.

 

And as for retconning dead characters, they've already done it. They can do anything they want. Leliana can be dead, Anders, and more. If they want to use a character again, they can, regardless of what you've done to him/her.

 

Basically, they picked Stroud because they liked Stroud. All us fanboys who miss our Origins and Awakenings buddies are left to ponder. All there is to it. Why does it matter what I pick for who Hawke saved in the deep roads? It doesn't seem to affect my game at all.

 

Honestly, I'm really hoping for more than a cameo with some of my favorite characters. Nathaniel, Oghren, etc., but I'm not exactly holding my breath. Again, they simply do what they want.

 

 

Seriously, they need to just hire me to write the next Dragon Age stories. All fanboys will be appeased!

[Raiil]

I don't get everyone saying "It had to be Stroud - too many variables otherwise."

Are you kidding? There are a TON of Keep choices. You simply make a "Did Nathaniel take the joining?" and "Is Nathaniel alive?" choice. Boom. Problem solved.

And as for retconning dead characters, they've already done it. They can do anything they want. Leliana can be dead, Anders, and more. If they want to use a character again, they can, regardless of what you've done to him/her.

Basically, they picked Stroud because they liked Stroud. All us fanboys who miss our Origins and Awakenings buddies are left to ponder. All there is to it. Why does it matter what I pick for who Hawke saved in the deep roads? It doesn't seem to affect my game at all.

Honestly, I'm really hoping for more than a cameo with some of my favorite characters. Nathaniel, Oghren, etc., but I'm not exactly holding my breath. Again, they simply do what they want.


Seriously, they need to just hire me to write the next Dragon Age stories. All fanboys will be appeased!

They picked him because he is quite literally the only Warden guaranteed to be alive, a Warden and avaliable.

Alistair? Can be king or dead. Loghain? Can be dead. Oghren? He can be dead or turned away. anders? Easily dead. Nathaniel? Dead or turned away. All the Awakenings wardens can be dead (in Justice's case, doubly so) or have been denied the Joining. Same deal for Bethany and Carver.

Stroud, however, is always alive.

[KaiserShep]

And as for retconning dead characters, they've already done it. They can do anything they want. Leliana can be dead, Anders, and more. If they want to use a character again, they can, regardless of what you've done to him/her.

 

Sure, they've brought back characters regardless of whether or not they died in their first games, but does anyone honestly want that pattern to continue? What for? I thought we were generally opposed to that sort of thing.

[DementedSheep]

I don't get everyone saying "It had to be Stroud - too many variables otherwise."

 

Are you kidding? There are a TON of Keep choices. You simply make a "Did Nathaniel take the joining?" and "Is Nathaniel alive?" choice. Boom. Problem solved.

 

And as for retconning dead characters, they've already done it. They can do anything they want. Leliana can be dead, Anders, and more. If they want to use a character again, they can, regardless of what you've done to him/her.

To be fair, Leliana and Anders were for big roles. With the warden contact it doesn't really matter who it is  and it's not a large enough role for them to break previous choices for. It also has the potential to be Alister or Loghain with this set up.

 

They should be trying to avoid breaking previous choices if possible and only do it if trying to keep that choice in is really hamstring them with something they want to do or eating up a lot resources (they should be thinking things through enough to avoid that aswell but hey, things change in the writing process). 

[turuzzusapatuttu]

My canon world state: Alistair married Anora, Loghain executed, the only Grey Wardens my Hawke met in DA2 were Stroud, Janeka and Larius. Since two of them can die, the only one left is the moustached guy. It seems logical that Stroud is the perfect contact that Hawke claims to have between the Wardens. Where could have he met an Awakening Warden?

[MaxQuartiroli]

In my game it would not have changed anything.

I would have saved Hawke no matter what the choice could have been, with the obvious exception of HoF.

[perfect_victime]

Why not Carver? He would be close to Varic and Hawke

[craigdolphin]

Personally, I chose to let Hawke die and kept Stroud alive. I felt a bit bad for Varric, but it felt cathartic given my disappointment in the change of direction that Dragon Age took in DA2.

[MiyuEmi]

I don't know how others have responded to this, but for most people, the Awakenings warden was the same as their Origins Warden.  My personal opinion is that this would have been a difficult choice for many, but only if their warden survived the killing of the archdemon.  I personally never played Awakenings with a new character and always played with my warden from origins.

 

Long story short, I don't think this would have been a very good idea as you would have a previous character feel more impactful in a game that is supposed to have the new IQ as the focus.

[Little Princess Peach]

I'm not sure what you're on about, because I'm very emotionally attached to that mustache.

Stroud mustache for DLC LI.

but we only saw him twice in Fail age two and four times in Side Quests the epic adventure

if we got to know him better maybe I would of cared more