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[Monster20862]

Quit taking away the fun in single player. Go screw with multiplayer, but leave my single player exploits alone.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

[Lilithor]

Quit taking away the fun in single player. Go screw with multiplayer, but leave my single player exploits alone.

Exactly.

[Joxer]

Just to say... I thumbed up the thread title.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't get it. In your title you tell Bioware to fix their game, but then in the OP you tell them to leave in things that are broken in said game. 

[Realmzmaster]

Bioware is fixing the bugs in the game. Your exploits may have been because of those errors. So fix the error you fix the exploit.

[sleasye74]

BW has broke this game many times over trying to fix a incomplete game with patches
I don't think fixing single player exploits are the way to go, i said it in another thread I wish they would have just focused on one or two big patches and actually fix bugs not exploits

[Shechinah]

I was wondering why the title wasn't in capslock this time around but then I read the thread and realised it was about exploits Aaain.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Perhaps the very things you want fixed result in the exploit even happening so, it has to be fixed to fix other things. Kid of like cooking, if sugar is in all of your salt containers, you can't make salt pork. Sure sweet pork might be good, but that doesn't get the salt pork the masses are demanding.

[Nefla]

Please remember to spay and neuter your videogames!

[sleasye74]

I played on xbone and I had a whole crew of bugs messing up my game and crashing my console, I just rented DA recently to see if patch5 maybe fixed anything but no it still crashes and armor still makes legs and arms dissappear

[Keitaro57]

Bioware is fixing the bugs in the game. Your exploits may have been because of those errors. So fix the error you fix the exploit.

The exploit fixed by the patched almost utterly destroy all the amulet of power spawning. They fix an exploit and create new bugs... But I haven't found the bug bringed by the exploit itself.

[phantomrachie]

The exploit fixed by the patched almost utterly destroy all the amulet of power spawning. They fix an exploit and create new bugs... But I haven't found the bug bringed by the exploit itself.

 

that is not at all how bug fixing works.

 

Personally I haven't experienced many bugs, a few glitches here and there but that is it, but every exploit is caused by a glitch, ever glitch is caused by a bug and every bug could have multiple causes or effects.

 

My big issue is the direct x error that crops up every so often but since DA:I is not the only game I have that gets that, I blame Nvidia for that one.

 

So an exploit could have been one in a series of things needed to fix, to fix a bug some people were experiencing.

 

You haven't found a bug that the exploit directly affected because 

 

1) You never experienced the bug the exploit caused.

2) It was the exploit combined with doing something else that you never did that caused the bug.

3) The exploit didn't directly cause the bug, but was part of a series of things that allowed it to happen.

 

At the end of the day, it is hard to know exactly what caused a bug without diving into the code to find out, which is something that, as players, we can't do.

 

Edit: hand slipped and I posted before I was finished. 

[Keitaro57]

that is not at all how bug fixing works.

No. I'm all with you about this. It is not like that that you fix bugs. But it is the way used by Bioware.

[Monster20862]

So they take away my exploits, but I'm still encountering the same exact bugs... Hmmm, get your nose out of biowares *******.

[Epzaos]

So they take away my exploits, but I'm still encountering the same exact bugs... Hmmm, get your nose out of biowares *******.

Don't forget the unintentional removal of all lootable Amulets of Power.

[Poisd2Strike]

that is not at all how bug fixing works.

 

Apparently, this is how the Bioware Patch (aka bug fixing) process works.  IIRC, Patch 1 was a day one Patch.  Patch 2 required an immediate hotfix.  Patch 3 also required a hotfix, and those of us who play DAI on a Console got what amounts to a combined Patch 3 and 4.  Then, Bioware decided to Beta test Patch 5 on PC (which is actually a good idea and makes sense) -- and Patch 6 as well  -- but then apparently released Patch 5 for Consoles prior to releasing for PC.  That doesn't really make sense, if you take into account that Patch 5 was Beta tested on PC and that both Microsoft / Sony have to perform Patch verification themselves before a Patch can be released on Xbox 360 / Xbox One or PS3 / PS4.  No additional verification process is required for PC Patch releases.  So, at least theoretically, PC players should have received Patch 5 prior to Console players.  Even though I play DAI on Xbox 360, I would have been fine with PC players receiving Patch 5 first since it was Beta tested on PC...

 

On Topic - there is already a thread dedicated to this very issue, OP:

 

BAD IDEA BIOWARE; Fixed issue that allowed players to exploit their gold value in single-player mode.

 

Bioware has every right to Patch exploits, DAI is after all a property of EA / Bioware, especially if the exploits could be or are actually related to other glitches / bugs.  Granted, Bioware should probably prioritize Patching game breaking glitches / bugs and adding additional player requested features (example:  long hair in CC) to fixing exploits that only impact the single-player aspect of DAI.

[aerisblight]

did I just hear my child crying...? Oh wait, its the OP.... nevermind.

[Monster20862]

did I just hear my child crying...? Oh wait, its the OP.... nevermind.

Amusing thing you are.

[Monster20862]

I don't care who's property it is legally. I bought it, so it's my property now.

[Kantr]

I don't care who's property it is legally. I bought it, so it's my property now.

You have a lifetime licence to the game.

 

It's not quite your property

[Monster20862]

You have a lifetime licence to the game.

It's not quite your property

I'm pretty sure I mentioned I don't care, it's mine, I paid for it, I've spent hundreds of hours playing it, I've taken care of it, I've sung it to sleep, I've taken it to the doctors when it was sick. It's mine.

[sleasye74]

I think that a bug coming from the exploits is bulls*t I didn't have any problems until patch3 and I was using the dupe exploit before that
Please someone explain to me how an exploit causes a bug? I had no problems until they started patching exploits, now I can't play the game cause of bugs that were introduced from those patches

[Monster20862]

If they fix anything, they should fix that ridiculous audio bug.

[Sartoz]

I think that a bug coming from the exploits is bulls*t I didn't have any problems until patch3 and I was using the dupe exploit before that
Please someone explain to me how an exploit causes a bug? I had no problems until they started patching exploits, now I can't play the game cause of bugs that were introduced from those patches

Depends on one's definition of a bug. A bug is code that can cause a crash in the application or wrong calculations, the use of a metric constant intead of an Imperial one. An exploit can be a failure to fully analyze potential conditions and thus the code, while correct from a desgin perspectice, fails to test for an unforseen event

 

Malware programs, for example, take advantages of exploits or security holes found in Microsoft/Apple software because the original design team failed to properly analyze potential attack vectors.