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[ModernAcademic]

Rather than waiting for 3 years for Dragon Age 4 to see what happens with Solas, do you think Bioware should resolve the Solas storyline with the final DA:I DLC?

 

I'd very much prefer they solve it in a DLC rather than drag Solas as a villain for DA:4.

 

The producers have already built a large basis for the world of Thedas. They have the main institutions, the History and belief of each people, the relations of conflict and friendship among them and where they all stand now.

 

There are SEVERAL elements they can explore that Inquisition failed to do so. The Epilogue should help them think where they should direct their efforts to build the storyline for the next game.

 

If they are utterly lost, here are a few of them:

 

• The unresolved Tevinter x Qunari conflict.
• The pending unification of the Dalish tribes.
• The reform, collapse or new exultation of the Chantry and the belief in the Maker.
• The quest for the Elven Gods and the revelation of their true identity (were they mageswho could walk in the Fade?). 
• The search of Solas/Fen'Harel for another Foci and his relation to the gods locked in the Beyond.
• The reform or dissolution of the Grey Warden Order and the sedition with Weisshaupt.
• The HoF's search for an end to the Calling and a cure for the taint.
• The Inquisition's role in Thedas as an influential institution or a military organization.
• The dangers of red lyrium and the matter of lyrium being alive.
• Sandal's origin and his relation to lyrium.
• The remaining six magisters who opened the First Breach 1400 years ago and the last 2 Archdemons.
• Politics concerning the many other nations in Thedas that we only hear by name (Antiva, Nevarra, Rivain, Anderfels, etc).

All of them can spawn great continuations of the franchise and plenty of DLC.

No need to recycle characters and situations from previous games, as it was done with Corypheus.

[Zetheria Tabris]

I agree with King Cousland. The situation with Solas is too grand to wrap up in a DLC. Especially since he's tied to Flemeth, who has been featured in every DA game excluding Awakening.

 

Yes please. We are moving to another part of Thedas and they are also going to change the lead writer therefore if we are going to see a fresh restart for the next story I want it to be the most fresh possible one: no cliffhangers, unclosed topic and so on. Give us all the possible closures for whatever happened during this 3 games and then move on.

 

Every time I take a break from the forums, something happens. What happened to David Gaider? Why won't he be the lead writer anymore?

[Raiil]

So long as there's a 'shoot him out of a cannon' option, I'm down for whatever.

 

Death to the dread wolf!

 

 

I agree with King Cousland. The situation with Solas is too grand to wrap up in a DLC. Especially since he's tied to Flemeth, who has been featured in every DA game excluding Awakening.

 

 

Every time I take a break from the forums, something happens. What happened to David Gaider? Why won't he be the lead writer anymore?

 

He's moving on to a new BW i.p. Luckily, Patrick Weekes is taking over.

[Tootles FTW]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I think the matter of Solas needs to be dealt with in a DLC so that the Inquisitor can be directly involved.  Fen'Harel as a character is another issue entirely.  Solas has personal ties to the Inquisitor and Inquisition: whether his dishonesty can be perceived as a betrayal is up to the individual player, but it's definitely an issue that only Inquisition-specific PCs would care to address with him...especially Lavellans who romanced him.  

 

Fen'Harel and his plans (whatever they may be) are matters that can/may affect the world beyond DAI so I have no issue with him being used in subsequent games if that's the case.  

[Heidirs]

I think they could pull it off the same way they did with Witch Hunt - the Inquisitor tracks Solas down, get's a hint of what he's doing, can let him go or try to kill him, and a romanced Inquisitor can go with him. It offers some closure without giving too much away for the next game.

[Heidirs]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I think the matter of Solas needs to be dealt with in a DLC so that the Inquisitor can be directly involved.  Fen'Harel as a character is another issue entirely.  Solas has personal ties to the Inquisitor and Inquisition: whether his dishonesty can be perceived as a betrayal is up to the individual player, but it's definitely an issue that only Inquisition-specific PCs would care to address with him...especially Lavellans who romanced him.  

 

Fen'Harel and his plans (whatever they may be) are matters that can/may affect the world beyond DAI so I have no issue with him being used in subsequent games if that's the case.  

 

I agree with this completely. We need a DLC so it can be decided if the Inquisitor is involved - especially romanced Lavellans.

 

Everything else, such as Solas' direct plans, can be handled in DA4.

[NedPepper]

They don't have to resolve everything to do with Solas.  Just like Flemeth and Morrigan keep going game after game.  But they DO need to resolve the Inquisitor's relationship with Solas.  Use DLC to close this the arc before starting a new one with Solas.  Otherwise, it's cheap gimmick with no resolution unless we play as the Inquisitor again in the next game.  And I don't personally want to play as the Inquisitor again.

[In Exile]

I think the Solas issue ought to be resolved in DA4 with a new protagonist. But I know most will disagree with me since many prefer these pre-existing relationships with an antagonist. I just think it would be a lot more interesting to see Solas through a new pair of eyes when he throws away his mask and behaves as the Dread Wolf. 

[Patchwork]

I want an expansion but as that's really unlikely I'd be happy with a series of DLCs that lead up to a confrontation with Solas. DLCs which for the most part are standalone stories and can be played whenever but have a side quest and/or drop hints about Fen'Harel and his end goal.

 

Whatever he does can be like Anders blowing up the Kirkwall Chantry, the event has lasting repercussions but what happens to the man himself doesn't really matter. 

[Tootles FTW]

I think the Solas issue ought to be resolved in DA4 with a new protagonist. But I know most will disagree with me since many prefer these pre-existing relationships with an antagonist. I just think it would be a lot more interesting to see Solas through a new pair of eyes when he throws away his mask and behaves as the Dread Wolf. 

 

That's assuming his behavior changes at all.  I'm of the mind that the Solas we saw in DAI is the Fen'Harel we will see in any other game or DLC.  Outside of his origins and past I don't think he was lying outright or concealing his true personality, and thus I really want closure within the realm of the Inquisition.  The DA4 protagonist wouldn't care at all that he hid his origins from the Inquisitor, nor would they be able to understand the subtleties of his possible motivations (outside of meta gaming) in relation to his words and actions in DAI - the Inquisitor has all of this context, however.

I'd be really disappointed if his character is, essentially, scrapped for the sake of a new game and to introduce "Fen'Harel" as some villain.

[RGC_Ines]

Solas plans may be too big for just expansion. We don't know for sure what exactly he want to do, and who his "People" are. For me, it's looks right now, like he want to merge Fade with a real world ( remember conversation about ghosts and living persons live together in one world ?). And while it looks like all Dread Wolf planes always went wrong, who knows if we will not  have a demons hordes, or another Blight. For other hand, I understand players who wants to get closure to theirs PCs relationships with Solas, so story DLC like Witch Hunt could be good, ( we got some closure to relationship between Morrigan and Warden, but still Devs were able to kept Morrigan for a next game).

[SerendipitousElf]

I disagree with the notion that DA4 should start with a new protagonist. The Inquisition wields power that can't be brushed aside as opposed to the HoF and Hawke who were mere individuals. Whatever is going to happen in Thedas has to include the Inquisition. 

I would love to play as the Inquisitor again and be involved in resolving conflicts in the future story of Thedas. And Solas' arc is too big and couldn't and shouldn't be resolved in DLC or even an expansion pack (not that there would be one anyway).

[BabyPuncher]

I seriously doubt they would resolve a cliffhanger like that with a DLC.

[Forsythia77]

I want full closure on the whole Solas issue, but I also don't feel the need to carry this to carry over and be the basis of DA4.  Plenty of people wanted more Warden action and to see Hawke get a better game, but we didn't get those things either.  I want to go to Teventer and Sherehon (sorry my spelling sucks) and have other adventures and whatnot.

[Korva]

Depends. If they dump the Inquisitor on the garbage pile of "useless ex-protagonists who are conveniently disappeared", much of Solas' potential (antagonist or no) would be lost because it comes from the personal connection these two characters had -- either as friends or, potentially, as all but adversaries already who only cooperated reluctantly while they had a shared enemy. So in that case, I'd rather see his story tied up while we still get to play this character. On the other hand, I'm not a fan of piddly little DLCs picking up bigger issues.

 

I'd prefer to keep playing the Inquisitor anyway. Knowing that my character will be relegated to said garbage pile along with all her friendships (so the favored NPCs can continue making money by appearing in franchise fiction and future games), connections and accomplishments is ... depressing and makes it hard to really get attached, especially to the companions who are supposed to be such a big draw for Bioware games but, despite all loud proclamations of friendship of loyalty, usually can't wait to get rid of my character as soon as the credits roll.

[Lethaya]

As long as I get a (good) resolution, I'm happy. XD However Bioware is comfortable handling it, really.

 

... Although, I do agree that it'd be nice to get to tackle the issue with my Quizzy (especially in regards to my poor Lavellan) rather then with a whole new character. They could do both? A Witch Hunt style DLC (as many have thrown out there) that doesn't quite resolve the issue entirely, but at least adds a degree of closure for the DA:I experience overall. In fact, I vote this. All the Solas. Both! XD

[In Exile]

That's assuming his behavior changes at all. I'm of the mind that the Solas we saw in DAI is the Fen'Harel we will see in any other game or DLC. Outside of his origins and past I don't think he was lying outright or concealing his true personality, and thus I really want closure within the realm of the Inquisition. The DA4 protagonist wouldn't care at all that he hid his origins from the Inquisitor, nor would they be able to understand the subtleties of his possible motivations (outside of meta gaming) in relation to his words and actions in DAI - the Inquisitor has all of this context, however.

I'd be really disappointed if his character is, essentially, scrapped for the sake of a new game and to introduce "Fen'Harel" as some villain.

I don't think Solas will be different in the sense that he'd be less erudite or intellectual. However he went to great lengths not to appear as an agent. He was very subdued and subtle in that regard. He guided the Inquisition on a path that suited him (e.g. moving you to Skyhold, trying to influence you to obtain his foci) without acting on the world.

I think Solas as an antagonist will be forced to be more direct rather than subtle.

[mopotter]

They built up Flemeth across three games and now Solas is picking up where she left off. Relegating him to a DLC would be stupid. He has as many as 3 God souls in him and has plans to change Thedas. He's probably the most powerful being that's ever existed in Thedas. I want at least an entire game to address Solas.

Flemeth just made brief appearances in each game.  I'd like more with Solas not a full game built around him, but a large DLC working with him or looking for him.

  

Then turn him into a Flemeth type in future games, if they want,  stopping by the new characters home, giving sage advice and enticing him into an adventure looking for dragons.  Oh wait, I think someone has already done that.  

 

I like Solas a lot, but really don't want a full game built around him.  

[DragonNerd]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I think the matter of Solas needs to be dealt with in a DLC so that the Inquisitor can be directly involved.  Fen'Harel as a character is another issue entirely.  Solas has personal ties to the Inquisitor and Inquisition: whether his dishonesty can be perceived as a betrayal is up to the individual player, but it's definitely an issue that only Inquisition-specific PCs would care to address with him...especially Lavellans who romanced him.  

 

Fen'Harel and his plans (whatever they may be) are matters that can/may affect the world beyond DAI so I have no issue with him being used in subsequent games if that's the case.  

 

My thoughts exactly. It would be more meaningful if the Inquisitor dealt with Solas because -- whether they romanced him or not -- they knew him personally. 

 

Here's how I imagine it will happen. Solas will make a big mess in upcoming DLC. The Inquisitor will deal with him (either forgive him or kill him). In DA4, the new protagonist will deal with Solas' mess while Solas has either disappeared with Lavellan, is dead, or has disappeared on his own. The IQ will make off screen appearances in the form of codexes and letters . . . etc.

[d-boy15]

It would be a bit unfair for those who romance him if Solas story will conclude in next game. His story can be personal with inquisitor, romanced or not.

Anyway, I think Fallout New Vegas DLC style would fit with Solas. Having different story and theme but tied Solas with them then featured him in final DLC to conclude his story.

[Karlone123]

It seems like an Awakening style expansion would be the ideal way to resolve it. But IIRC, Bioware said they didn't intend to do anything like that again.

 

Aww. really? I loved Awakening.

[Dolfanar]

I agree 100% that there needs to be a story DLC dealing with Solas for DAI, but even if Solas is the antagonist, doesn't mean he is a "bad guy" who needs to be fought and killed at the end. Awakenings and the Architect is the perfect comparison. In fact I'd be doubly impressed if they somehow tied all this in to the Architect, The Hof quest to cure the calling (whether the Hof actually appears or not) and the issues with the wardens mentioned by Morrigan at the end of DAI. Let's wrap up loose ends ahead of moving on to new territory in DA4... potentially with a still alive Solas manipulating people to advance his agenda.

[Aren]

I disagree with the notion that DA4 should start with a new protagonist. The Inquisition wields power that can't be brushed aside as opposed to the HoF and Hawke who were mere individuals. Whatever is going to happen in Thedas has to include the Inquisition. 

 

The Inquisition doesn't need the Inquisitor anymore, is role is complete.

Hawke is the champion of Kirkwall and not just a mere individual,just like The HoF who can be Warden Commander and King or Queen ,i would not call some with all this power and the same reputation of Gharael  a mere individual.

[SerendipitousElf]

The Inquisition doesn't need the Inquisitor anymore, is role is complete.

Hawke is the champion of Kirkwall and not just a mere individual,just like The HoF who can be Warden Commander and King or Queen ,i would not call some with all this power and the same reputation of Gharael  a mere individual.

Interesting, so who do you think should lead the Inquisition from now on then?

 

HoF and Hawke stories were stories of individuals who gained recognition at their respective timeline stories. Said power then ended with them completing the task at hand and they scattered with the wind. HoF is dead in half of the games and missing in the other half. And where is Hawke? Why didn't he/she stay to lead or help in Kirkwall? The thing is - they were not scripted to continue in the game beyond their story. The other difference is that they were heroes but not leaders of an organization that lives beyond the resolution of  the current events.

 

DAI though has this open ending and no one is leaving as of yet (except Solas that is). The Inquisition as an organization wielding considerable power and influence in Thedas continues to exist and so will the Inquisitor as its leader. And since it was confirmed that there will be no expansions, I am led to believe that we have not seen the end of the Inquisitor.

IMO, it is time to break the mold of discarding the protagonist and with the changes in the DA team I would like to believe that this could be an option.

 

I would also like to add that I am a new player to this series and played all three DA games in the last few months in succession, so I believe that my opinions are not clouded by nostalgia and should be quite impartial.

[windsea]

Got the feeling that he is the new "flemeth", a sub plot through the series.