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[Elhanan]

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Don't even bother, it is completely pointless to argue with Elhanan. According to him the game came out just as promised and advertised, without any major issues and everything is just so awesome, 10/10, GOTY Even if you serve him facts on a silver platter, he will ignore them completely, deflect them and talk about something else, that was according to him amazing.

And again, assumption. My score is 8.5/ 10, and 4/5 on Amazon; others may wish to look at it for themselves. But then accuracy, context, and comprehension are not easy for everyone to grasp; requires practice.

[Jeffry]

where are you getting all these crap? I can't believe you believe anything you read on someone's blog or twitter or wherever you find this BS. Law suit? On what ground? It's their game and their game and story and they are entitled to change it at any given moment without consulting it with you. If they didn't release any info about it before releasing the game and you would play it as it is now you wouldn't be whining all around the forum about some unimportant details and you would probably be happy about how thing came up. It's your fault you build up false expectations of the game. Beside who do you call liars? EA's PR or bioware's or everyone who work for their company or whole world cos you broke your tooth on the lollipop?

 

Isn't a bit ironic (or downright trollish) YOU of all people are accusing somebody of believing anything they read? Besides, I am not doing such a thing and none of my arguments support that, but please continue to pull things out of your ass. And what BS do you exactly mean? The issues their games had? If you still have some common sense, you can see them. You can like the game despite them, that is fine by me, but ignoring them won't do anybody any justice. And yes, lawsuits and complaints about false advertisement, http://www.gamesindu...ive-advertising. It didn't lead anywhere, since as I said, there weren't any laws BW/EA crossed, because this system is broken.

 

They are ofc entitled to any changes, but then they SHOULD STOP saying those things are still in the game when they aren't anymore. That is just misleading the customers and on purpose. Please, please finally say you are trolling, because if you can't see anything wrong with this level of false advertisement, then that is really sad. (A bit funny too, but at this point mostly sad)

 

If they hadn't released any info at all, I wouldn't buy it. No sane person would. And anybody that would is an irresponsible customer. Yeah, unimportant issues like save files being corrupted or the game not being playable at all are really just tiny details

 

Liars are the ones who lied. Shocking, isn't it. That means PR, the people in charge of the project and the ones who lied during interviews (and the corporate leadership of EA, but that is nothing new, they lie all the time, it is their business model). Ofc low tier designers or animators are not liars, they are just pawns and should not be faulted for their leadership's mistakes, I thought that goes without saying, but I forgot who am I dealing with here

[Jeffry]

And again, assumption. My score is 8.5/ 10, and 4/5 on Amazon; others may wish to look at it for themselves. But then accuracy, context, and comprehension are not easy for everyone to grasp; requires practice.

 

Oh, I am not on the famous ignore list anymore, for now. I should me more careful with my posts for the time being. Ok, your score is not 10/10, but 8.5/10, sorry for that. But as for example the thread "It's just ... boring. Why, BioWare? This isn't you." has shown us, you're really ignoring the vast majority of issues we had and instead of acknowledging them, you went out of your way to praise those falsely advertised things, deflect our arguments, etc. You tell me about being able to grasp something (inb4 being put back on your ignore list, could not care less)

[Keitaro57]

You don't speak for all 360 players either. My husband's copy is just fine. He hasn't experienced a single bug. Hell I experienced more bugs with my PC copy and I had a great experience. So it's great that you're actively looking to protect the players with bugs but you don't speak for every 360 player.

Just look in the thread of PS360 players and you have your answer : We have many different bugs and some of them are rare, almost ultra-rare. But they are the more bothering. Some of the players are locked at the very start with the "unreadable disc error". Others like me can finish the game at the cost of ignoring each and every sidequest. Others have a copy that work very well. So what? Because some players are lucky and get their hand on a fully working copy, all the people with issues must shut up?

 

Be realistic, if I say "I'm the one and only 360 players that have issues with the game", everybody will laugh at me! And it will be a lie too! They deleted all the post on facebook where we politely asked if the oldgen players will get a specific patch. By doing so, the gamers with issues had two choices : Bury their copy of DAI in their garden and forget about Bioware or telling how this company treat their fans. I'v chosen to be aggressive because even IRL I hate when people grab my money with a smile to give me crap in exchange. Because it is a video game doesn't give them any excuses.

[Namea]

Just look in the thread of PS360 players and you have your answer : We have many different bugs and some of them are rare, almost ultra-rare. But they are the more bothering. Some of the players are locked at the very start with the "unreadable disc error". Others like me can finish the game at the cost of ignoring each and every sidequest. Others have a copy that work very well. So what? Because some players are lucky and get their hand on a fully working copy, all the people with issues must shut up?

 

Be realistic, if I say "I'm the one and only 360 players that have issues with the game", everybody will laugh at me! And it will be a lie too! They deleted all the post on facebook where we politely asked if the oldgen players will get a specific patch. By doing so, the gamers with issues had two choices : Bury their copy of DAI in their garden and forget about Bioware or telling how this company treat their fans. I'v chosen to be aggressive because even IRL I hate when people grab my money with a smile to give me crap in exchange. Because it is a video game doesn't give them any excuses.

 

I never said that you had to shut up because you have bugs. I'm saying that you seem to think you speak for every single 360 player. You don't. Instead of trying to make the problem seem like it's more widespread than it is, just present it as a problem YOU have, let others do the same and let Bioware get an actual idea of how many players have it instead of trying to make it seem like every single person has the issue. 

[Keitaro57]

I never said that you had to shut up because you have bugs. I'm saying that you seem to think you speak for every single 360 player. You don't. Instead of trying to make the problem seem like it's more widespread than it is, just present it as a problem YOU have, let others do the same and let Bioware get an actual idea of how many players have it instead of trying to make it seem like every single person has the issue. 

For the third time... LOOK IN THE THREAD IN MY SIGN!!!!!!

 

If I'm talking for other it is because lot of old-gen players suffering of DAI issues left totally the BSN! I think you are probably only the SECOND people talking about a perfect and absolute flawless 360 copy. If you are saying : in the name of the XXS minority that doesn't have any problem, don't say that the XXL majority of players had issues, you are talking in the wind. The thread exist still months and is full of people wondering if they will try to buy another copy of the game, hoping that the new copy of the same game will have a better chance to run. Yeah, it is that bad! Like a russian roulette!

The old-gen players are gradually leaving the forum, understanding that their issues will never ever be looked after, so the few that stay like me will be louder. If you can find more than 200 players that have a fully working copy, congratulations! If not, look at the petition in my sign.

[Xiolyrr Zoharei]

I always come across a good chuckle from some of these 'friendly debates', scrolling through threads. It's like watching a boxing match where the first one who throws a punch will get moderated and possibly banned out the ring. So the fighters have to throw a punch, without actually throwing a punch. So it all boils down to carefully worded, and sometimes clever, verbal jabs.

[Hazegurl]

Because Bethesda is lazy.

 

*snip*

 

Vanilla Skyrim was dreadful when it came to bugs (at least I could use the developer console to fix some bugged quests, although it didn't help much), but once the community fixed the bugs for Bethesda and created all those other great mods, it became one of the best gaming experiences for me. Mods can really make a game infinitely better.

LOL! That video was funny and so true.

 

I found another gem from the same people that is comedy gold

[Meave]

Isn't a bit ironic (or downright trollish) YOU of all people are accusing somebody of believing anything they read? Besides, I am not doing such a thing and none of my arguments support that, but please continue to pull things out of your ass. And what BS do you exactly mean? The issues their games had? If you still have some common sense, you can see them. You can like the game despite them, that is fine by me, but ignoring them won't do anybody any justice. And yes, lawsuits and complaints about false advertisement, http://www.gamesindu...ive-advertising. It didn't lead anywhere, since as I said, there weren't any laws BW/EA crossed, because this system is broken.

 

did you eve read the article?

 

"Curiously, NO reviewer that I am aware of pointed out the lack of ending choices. That means this is just one more thing blown out of proportion by the gaming press."

 

even the writer thought it's just some one man scam trying to pry some money out of Bioware. One person act and you're all hey they got law suit, well they didn't cos it didn't go to court, but you use it as a base rock of your argumentation - they lied (well they didn't according to law expert from which you posted article) let's grab torches and crucify them!!

[AlanC9]

Just look in the thread of PS360 players and you have your answer : We have many different bugs and some of them are rare, almost ultra-rare. But they are the more bothering. Some of the players are locked at the very start with the "unreadable disc error". Others like me can finish the game at the cost of ignoring each and every sidequest. Others have a copy that work very well. So what? Because some players are lucky and get their hand on a fully working copy, all the people with issues must shut up?

Anyone else remember when a big selling point of consoles was that this sort of thing couldn't happen? Only one configuration, so a game would run for everybody.

[AlanC9]

I always come across a good chuckle from some of these 'friendly debates', scrolling through threads. It's like watching a boxing match where the first one who throws a punch will get moderated and possibly banned out the ring. So the fighters have to throw a punch, without actually throwing a punch. So it all boils down to carefully worded, and sometimes clever, verbal jabs.

Yep, that's a big element of the game.

[9TailsFox]

LOL! That video was funny and so true.

 

I found another gem from the same people that is comedy gold

[AlanC9]

Yeah, people have been using that one since ME2.

[Il Divo]

Yeah, people have been using that one since ME2.

 

Always made me sad. ME2 is one of my favorite games of all time. 

[Rawgrim]

 

Whoever made that drawing forgot to add Origin in the pile of corpses.

[9TailsFox]

Always made me sad. ME2 is one of my favorite games of all time. 

ME2 story just bad filer, but it have great characters. And personally one of best endings. 

[Rawgrim]

ME2 was a very very good game. Too bad ME3 pretty much ignored it.

[AlanC9]

Always made me sad. ME2 is one of my favorite games of all time. 

 

Just finishing a run up myself. Yeah, pretty fine. But of course, the "classic CRPG" fans wanted nothing to do with it at the time, and were sure it was a sign that Bio was going straight down the tubes. Remember Terror_K and Gatt9?

[AlanC9]

ME2 was a very very good game. Too bad ME3 pretty much ignored it.

 

Ignored it?

[Rawgrim]

Ignored it?

 

Keep the reaper tech from the end, or not. Makes zero difference in ME3.

[9TailsFox]

Keep the reaper tech from the end, or not. Makes zero difference in ME3.

If I remember correctly difference is 25 points.

[AlanC9]

Keep the reaper tech from the end, or not. Makes zero difference in ME3.

Unless you play a low EMS game, in which case your ME2 choice devides the ending. Personally, I might have left that effect in regardless of EMS.

[Jeffry]

And again, assumption. My score is 8.5/ 10, and 4/5 on Amazon; others may wish to look at it for themselves. But then accuracy, context, and comprehension are not easy for everyone to grasp; requires practice.

 

Oh, I am not on that famous ignore list of yours for the time being, I guess I should be more careful with gossips about you then. Ok, sorry, 8.5/10 instead of 10/10, my bad. The number itself doesn't matter at all though. The things you write do. And the fact is you are praising the game for everything it does, no matter how much it failed to deliver from what is being advertised to this very day. Yeah, you are the one to talk about grasp (inb4 being put on the ignore list once again, could not care less though)

 

 

LOL! That video was funny and so true.

 

I found another gem from the same people that is comedy gold

 

I didn't really wanna post more videos, it would seem like spamming, but the EA one is spot on Just like the rest of them. They are really worth watching

 

 

did you eve read the article?

 

"Curiously, NO reviewer that I am aware of pointed out the lack of ending choices. That means this is just one more thing blown out of proportion by the gaming press."

 

even the writer thought it's just some one man scam trying to pry some money out of Bioware. One person act and you're all hey they got law suit, well they didn't cos it didn't go to court, but you use it as a base rock of your argumentation - they lied (well they didn't according to law expert from which you posted article) let's grab torches and crucify them!!

 

Boy oh boy, I am so gonna get banned one day for taking the obvious bait and call you names for what you are, but it is not this day. Ok, I'll take a small bite, I hope it pleases you immensely - I hate attacking the poster instead of their posts, but seeing your imbecile argumentation, I have to seriously wonder how you can function in your day to day life.

 

Ok, now that we got this out of the way... I am not you, I actually read the articles I post. But since I am not you, I don't take from them only the things that fit my point of view, that is why I posted this one and not the one-sided ones. You somehow forgot to quote this for example "The issue at stake here is, did BioWare falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did," said Marjorie Stephens, Director of Communications at BBB of Northern Indiana." Were the complaints justified? Hell yes they were. Did BW lie? Yes. Was it false advertising? If we are discussing only what the law says about this, then not really, since these lies were said in an interview and not ads. Did BW break any laws? No, that is why the suit didn't stand much of chance, plain and simple. But the fact still remains that people were that much dissatisfied with being lied to straight to their faces, that they filed a lawsuit and various complaints. That tells you something about the criticized aspect of the game and about the studio that made it...

 

It is not curious at all, why reviewers didn't pick up on that. It is a well known "secret" that most of them don't usually bother to finish the games they review. And second thing, the reviews are paid. I even explained to you how, but you just keep forgetting it, which is not that surprising anymore... Reviews should be here to warn us and protect us from faulty products and from unscrupulous corporations, alas that is not so in today's world. Major review sites don't try to help the customers, they actually help the major corporations who in return give them money via ads (that is how this system works). They are not the protectors they should be, they are the culprits.

 

 

I always come across a good chuckle from some of these 'friendly debates', scrolling through threads. It's like watching a boxing match where the first one who throws a punch will get moderated and possibly banned out the ring. So the fighters have to throw a punch, without actually throwing a punch. So it all boils down to carefully worded, and sometimes clever, verbal jabs.

 

It is quite funny indeed Luckily it isn't all for nothing, it can serve as a good language excersise

[Coyote X Starrk]

Pre-ordering is harmful even if you're convinced the game will be good.

 

I understand where you are coming from by saying that, but certain games have earned my pre-order.