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[Namea]

Yup. I will continue to preorder Bioware games. I've done so since NWN2 and never regretted it. For all that others complain of bugs I have yet to ever pre-order a game and have extensive bugs in it. 

 

Now companies other than Bioware? Never. I hate Blizzard with a fiery passion so I wouldn't order any of their crap anyway but seeing all the trouble people have with them and games like AC:Unity makes me leery of any other company. 

 

Although I did have a hellova time with the preorder on this one. 

 

Preordered from gamestop instead of in Origin because we wanted to use our gs credit card. I specifically told them I need a digital edition because my computer doesn't have a disk drive. The dude said sure and told me the code would be emailed to me. I thought that was odd, usually it's on the receipt but I figured it was because it was so far in advance of release. 

 

So night before release comes and I didn't have an email. I called the store and found out that the poor kid who'd sold me it before was brand new and didn't realize he'd messed up. He'd preordered me a physical copy on accident and there was no digital deluxe preorder edition at gamestop (so none of the fun peripherals!) 

 

In the end I exchanged the disc copy and got origin gift cards instead which I used to preorder directly from origin, and all in time to still pre-load! 

 

I didn't mind though, he was new and I love the dudes at our local gamestop. They know us and they're super nice. If it's slow they'll come out and one of them will always steal away our son to play with him on the display consoles. They even printed me out some gamestop labels once that said "Pay attention to your wife!" and "Don't forget to take out the trash!" when I joked that my husband would only listen to me if I put subliminal messages in video games. 

Modifié par Namea, 11 mars 2015 - 01:53 .

[Jeffry]

I can't really complain about my experience with Gamestop since the one where I live had a guy who checked each edition to see if anything was broken so customers wouldn't wind up with broken items.

 

If you could really trust the guy and then Gamestop only sent the ok boxes, then that is actually pretty good. But after I read about all those horror stories in the CE thread about Gamestop employees opening the boxes and then people still found their contents all over the place, broken or even missing a piece or two or several...

[Shechinah]

(to Jeffry) I know and it sucks to think that people's first sight on opening the box was broken things and having to deal with that muddying a mood.  

 

I really liked the guy, he knew what he was talking about and really made you trust that the store he was in charge of put customers first. I think it comes down to finding a store (small store or a part of a big chain) that has personnel you feel some measurement of trust towards. That one guy and all my positive experiences dealing with Gamestop through him have pretty much ensured I'll continue buying and pre-ordering my games there until my overall experience with them changes.

 

That's how significant one employee at a store can be... Granted, the store is small and only has two employees so he was bound to be significant as the only frontstore worker but it still counts!

[Jeffry]

(to Jeffry) I know and it sucks to think that people's first sight on opening the box was broken things and having to deal with that muddying a mood.  

 

I really liked the guy, he knew what he was talking about and really made you trust that the store he was in charge of put customers first. I think it comes down to finding a store (small store or a part of a big chain) that has personnel you feel some measurement of trust towards. That one guy and all my positive experiences dealing with Gamestop through him have pretty much ensured I'll continue buying and pre-ordering my games there until my overall experience with them changes.

 

Yeah, true that. I am also pretty happy with my current local retailer, they have excellent service and often offer interesting bonuses you can't find anywhere else in the world. Which is somewhat cool to imagine - a retailer with stores in 5 cities/towns only, not a part of a bigger chain, in a country of only 10 M people where games don't really sell well. 20k copies of Skyrim were sold in a year (without counting Steam) and that was considered a success. And yet they go the extra mile and bring you something special It also goes without saying they are 33% cheaper than both Steam and Origin (but that is true for all local retailers here).

 

Unfortunately my pre-ordering days are most likely gone (and definitely gone for any games released by major publishers).

[AlanC9]

Are you serious now? And yet some people wonder, why others might take you for an [insert random big publisher] supporter / affiliate

"Some people" meaning you, eh?

I was actually serious, but I think I misread Big Red back there. I thought he was talking about buying a game and then not playing it until all the patches come out. That's about the same thing as a preorder; giving a company money long before you get the value. But Big Red was actually talking about delaying purchasing altogether.

[DanteYoda]

No not these games franchises..

 

I have pre ordered the Witcher 3 though

[Jeffry]

"Some people" meaning you, eh?

I was actually serious, but I think I misread Big Red back there. I thought he was talking about buying a game and then not playing it until all the patches come out. That's about the same thing as a preorder; giving a company money long before you get the value. But Big Red was actually talking about delaying purchasing altogether.

 

No, I am part of the "others" in my sentense

 

Ok then, you had me worried there for a bit In your original understanding that would be the same as pre-order, but you indeed misunderstood him there.

[Monster20862]

I'll never be pre-ordering another bioware game, that's for sure.

[Meave]

Please, let's stop feeding this beast. Stop preordering. I know I will.

 

well you're wrong here. You can preorder digital download as well. You no longer need dvds for the game cos without internet connection the game won't work anyway so as long as you have internet you may as well download the game. And the point is that you get a discount (usually) when preordering and they will see - before release - how big demand (and dedication) is for the game and can chose how many personal should start working on DLCs.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

(...)And the point is that you get a discount (usually) when preordering and they will see - before release - how big demand (and dedication) is for the game and can chose how many personal should start working on DLCs.

and here i thought the pre-order thingy exists to

1) fool customers into buying unfinished/poor quality product after boosting the hype with shady marketing practices

2) sell the software before someone cracks it

 

it's soothing, i suppose: naive and innocent people still exist somewhere

 

OP:

depends. i won't preorder anything branded by companies/studios i don't trust. i did however preordered W3 - i trust the dev enough (previous releases) to believe their marketing induced hype is genuine and i'm fed true information, their soft is DRM free - i'd like to call it mutual respect between gamers and studio... in this case i'm a bit naive as well :3

[Jeffry]

well you're wrong here. You can preorder digital download as well. You no longer need dvds for the game cos without internet connection the game won't work anyway so as long as you have internet you may as well download the game. And the point is that you get a discount (usually) when preordering and they will see - before release - how big demand (and dedication) is for the game and can chose how many personal should start working on DLCs.

It is wrong giving money to someone in advance if you have no control over the product or don't have any true insight over it. You are trusting their promises. When history and very recent one points to the fact big publishers don't live up to them, they don't care about them. Nothing compells them to release a polished product or to fix it post-launch, they already have the money and that is the only thing they care about.

If you can't see anything wrong with that, then you are awfully naive and gullible to say the least.

[Lumix19]

I'm planning on preordering the next Mass Effect game. I preordered DA:I and I had no regrets.

[Hexoduen]

Yup. I will continue to preorder Bioware games. I've done so since NWN2 and never regretted it. For all that others complain of bugs I have yet to ever pre-order a game and have extensive bugs in it. 

 

Now companies other than Bioware? Never. ...

 

Never? NWN2 was developed by Obsidian Entertainment and published by Atari. Good game, after the bugs had been fixed.

 

Regarding the pre-order: I will pre-order ME4 if it sounds to be as good as the first three Mass Effect games

 

I will not pre-order DA4 if it has the same problems as Inquisition. In that case I won't even touch it until Bioware and modders have improved PC gameplay.

[Eelectrica]

The main reason I pre-ordered was for the Inquisitors edition which, whilst I knew it was mostly knick knacks, I didn't think the quality of said knick knacks would be that terrible.

So probably not. Would have been better off waiting for it to come on an Origin Sale which happened about 2 weeks after release.

 

I doubt I'll be getting any more Bioware special editions since the company they go through to put them together is so terrible.

[SpiritMuse]

Probably not. I've preordered two games recently and although I've enjoyed both of them fine, they were also both pretty buggy and unpolished.

So next time I'm going to wait until the game is out and we know exactly how buggy it is or isn't.

[Darkly Tranquil]

well you're wrong here. You can preorder digital download as well. You no longer need dvds for the game cos without internet connection the game won't work anyway so as long as you have internet you may as well download the game.

It's an issue for those of us who live in countries with download limits on internet service packages. Installing off physical media is actually preferable in this instance, and it's one of the main reasons I still buy physical copies of games.

[phantomrachie]

It is wrong giving money to someone in advance if you have no control over the product or don't have any true insight over it. You are trusting their promises. When history and very recent one points to the fact big publishers don't live up to them, they don't care about them. Nothing compells them to release a polished product or to fix it post-launch, they already have the money and that is the only thing they care about.

If you can't see anything wrong with that, then you are awfully naive and gullible to say the least.

 

With most pre-orders you are not paying the full amount up front, it's not like a Kickstarter or a Steam Early Access games. You only pay once the game is released, so you can cancel your pre-order at any time before that, if the reviews that come out before aren't to your liking.

 

The only time I have paid full price when I pre-ordered was via Origin for DA:I when I paid via PayPal and even with that, the DA:I reviews & YouTube Videos came out before the release day so I could've cancelled & gotten my money back at any time before the release day or within the first 24 hrs of installing & trying the game.

 

I've a MUCH bigger problem with Early Access games then I do with Pre-Ordering. With Early Access you are paying full price for a game that may never be finished, with pre-ordering you are just saying that you want to buy the game on the day it releases, as long as developer allows it to be reviewed before that date, then you've time to cancel, if you don't like what you see.

 

Not allowing the game to be reviewed before the date the game is launched should be a BIG sign that the developer knows the game is broken, like with AC:Unity, also giving you the opportunity to cancel.

 

In both scenarios you don't loose out on any money.

 

At the end of the day, every time you buy any form of media (that you haven't watched/played/read before), game, book, boxset or film, you don't have a 100% guarantee that you'll like it. Even if you wait until after the release day and all the reviews and YouTube Videos are in and friends have recommended that game to you, you could still buy the game and hate it.

 

Or you could buy a game that everyone supposedly hates and really enjoy it.

 

The critics and fans, loved Shadows of Mordor, I didn't really. I'm not a fan of its combat, I wasn't a fan of it when it was in Batman Arkham Asylum, but it didn't matter there because up until the final boss, I was able to stealth take down everyone, which I loved.

 

Likely wise (and I know this isn't a game but its a good example) critics seem to hate 'Chappie', which I don't get at all because it was a really interesting and enjoyable film, even if Sigourney Weaver is criminally under used.

 

No matter how long you wait or how much research you do, there is no guarantee that you'll like something, even if you base your decision on previous work you can still be wrong, I love Terry Pratchett, but I'm not a fan of his Diggers series.  

 

Eventually you have to take the plunge and commit to buying something to find out if you like it or not and whether you do that for the release day or months later is really up to you.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

the thing with Early Access is you basically pay for unfinished game but you know it's unfinished before you pay for it. in pre-order you cannot be sure. my trusted reviewers (those who usually share my tastes so i can rely on their opinions) usually take their sweet time with new toys

 

and i generally don't play early access/beta because the experience must be perfect, otherwise it's not worth it (i care about time more than money)

[AWTEW]

It probably would.

  

The main reason I pre-ordered was for the Inquisitors edition which, whilst I knew it was mostly knick knacks, I didn't think the quality of said knick knacks would be that terrible.
So probably not. Would have been better off waiting for it to come on an Origin Sale which happened about 2 weeks after release.
 
I doubt I'll be getting any more Bioware special editions since the company they go through to put them together is so terrible.

Yeah, me neither.

[Lee T]

I stopped preordering after the DA2/ME3 debacle.

[GreyWarden_Smith]

Depends on the developer to be honest, I've pre-order The Witcher 3 & Batman: Arkham Knight for this year as I trust both developers (so I can get the price guarantee on the pre-order). I also donated in Pillar of Eternity Kick-starter to receive the game on release due to trust in Obsidian.

 

I mostly buy digital so I'll wait for review and feedback on game prior to release and will pre-order a day before release if the games has a good vibe about the game and the pre-order incentives are good for the pre-order (price reductions and digital items)

 

I've pre-order all Bioware games since Dragon Age Origins and purchased the collectors editions versions of the games expect Dragon Age Inquisition where I pre-ordered the Digital Deluxe after the favourable reviews as I had no interest in the Inquisitor Edition as it was a one store sourced only and not to my taste. 

 

I will pre-order the next Mass Effect if the collectors edition is interesting enough for a physical purchase but if not I'll wait for reviews to decide if I want the pre-order rewards for digital deluxe edition close to release.

[Draining Dragon]

Yup. I will continue to preorder Bioware games. I've done so since NWN2 and never regretted it. For all that others complain of bugs I have yet to ever pre-order a game and have extensive bugs in it. 
 
Now companies other than Bioware? Never. I hate Blizzard with a fiery passion so I wouldn't order any of their crap anyway but seeing all the trouble people have with them and games like AC:Unity makes me leery of any other company. 
 

You do know that NWN2 was made by Obsidian, not Bioware, right?

[Sartoz]

Ny answer is one BIG

 

 

                NO