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[Deebo305]

Pre-ordering for me.has always depended on how well I know the franchise and how long I'll be able to enjoy the game

If I know I'll stop playing after 1 runthrough or a month I don't even bother. Being very selective as I am now any game I preorder has to have 2/3 qualities for me

1. Compelling story with lots of replay value (SP Only)
2. Fun,Competitive, Easy to pick up and varied MP (Most shooters and fighting games)
3. NOT GRINDY (New quota added solely because of Destiny. Any game with repetitive RNG rewards and little else gets an instamt NO from me now)

Currently on the fence for The Division, love all Tom Clancy games but hearing its like Destiny from Ubisoft devs...disturbs me

[DragonKingReborn]

I doubt I'll ever pre order again. I pre ordered DA2 and while I enjoyed it, it was most definitely not what I was hoping for/expecting.

I didn't pre order Inquisition and am glad I didn't. Got the game after the first patch and reading a handful of reviews from forum members whose opinions I find tend to run similar lines to mine. Even after the first patch, the kbd/m controls were extremely frustrating and the "can't walk" with kbd/m thing was really annoying. Love it now, and in fact loved it even with just the first patch, but am very glad I elected not to preorder. One reason to be thankful for MP, I guess. Stopped me from doing something that would have made me angry at myself.

For upcoming games I'm looking forward to, specifically; TW3, Arkham Knight, Pillars of Eternity and (particulary) Sword Coast Legends, I will educate myself on them as much as possible and then wait for - at minimum - the first post release patch. It's the only responsible thing to do as a consumer.

[Xiolyrr Zoharei]

I'll wait for a price drop before I preorder any game. Regardless of hype, anticipation or bonuses, LP vids and patience has saved me a lot of money.

 

Hearing about a season pass before the game is even released is an insult to me, as if I'm a drooling dog panting over a dangling pork chop. I felt just as burnt, feeding into the hype buying overhyped disappointments Day One. Even if it was something like Fallout 4, I'd wait for LP vids before buying.

[SkyKing]

I won't ever preorder a bioware/ea game again. I hope the company suffers and all the lead decision makers involved in DAI are canned. 

[Radko]

I will not ever preorder a bioware/ea game again as well. Unless I see them return to their roots of making a product for the fans, not something that will be "commercially successful."

[Lumix19]

I won't ever preorder a bioware/ea game again. I hope the company suffers and all the lead decision makers involved in DAI are canned.

You should be ashamed. These are peoples' lives your talking about.

I will not ever preorder a bioware/ea game again as well. Unless I see them return to their roots of making a product for the fans, not something that will be "commercially successful."

Why are those two mutually exclusive?

[Hazegurl]

I've learned my lesson from last year. DAI was my last preorder game. I had the Order 1886 slated for preorder and threw it in my wish list instead and was thankful when I deleted it from my list.  I don't care how hard they roll in the hype train, I'm watching streams and reading reviews from people I trust before forking over a single dime.

[karushna5]

I know what preordering has become and recognize it as a strange thing that makes hype pay for video games rather then good video games. They very rarely ever run out anymore so why pre order? But Bioware kinda ruined my Video game experience by being the only ones on the market who give exactly what I want from a game. They made me picky and I want to support them. I definitely would buy it anyway at this point, so full knowing what preorder is, yes I will preorder, but only Bioware.

[Gileadan]

It depends on the developer/publisher for me, whether I feel that I'm actually their target audience and how they treat me as a customer. I have backed Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera, and TW3:WH CE is on preorder.

EA games in general and BioWare though...yeah, not so much anymore. Sadly. They used to be my "preorder without regrets" dev, but things changed.

[Meave]

If we are dealing with major devs/publisher here, they have their DLCs planned out anyway (starting with cut content) for all their major games, since they know they will sell buttload of copies no matter what.

 

You can only return it to EA if you bought it via Origin. And I many times said buying stuff on Origin is more than 33% more expensive around here than buying it from any local retail store. Why the hell would I buy it on Origin then. Also because I live in EU, if I buy a physical copy of a game online, I can then return it in the next 14 days. But you can save yourself all that hassle, if instead of blindly trusting all those crooks you do some research on the product first. And you can only do that after release. You can only see the actual number of bugs after release, etc.

 

My point also was that trusting them is what is wrong with this practice. It is also naive and not in the good, cute or charming way. They don't care about anything but your money. They don't care if you enjoyed their game and will buy the next one as well, because if you won't, 2 more people will.

 

If you just like throwing money at people you can't and should not ever trust because they are just a bunch of liers or you are made of money, by all means, pre-order away But it is as

 

if you preorder you get discount and it's cheaper than if you buy it from store. Besides if you read let's say 10 previews that's just opinion of 10 different people. I would buy DAI (and be disappointed by it) regardless of what other people said about it...

 

wow they released one bad game and suddenly they are money hungry liars (ofc they want money, why else would they make games?). I didn't forget about ME 1-3 and DAO+DA2 those were awesome games and I enjoy playing them even today. So they misstep on DAI, they got very negative feedback, I doubt they weill make same mistakes in ME4 or DA4

[Zeratulr]

I think this article better explains why preordering is a bad thing and why it perpetuates bad behavior on the part of these gaming companies. 

I think the explanation in the article is very vague and at any rate no amount of activism texts can overpower the monetary incentives which come with pre-ordering.

[Keitaro57]

if you preorder you get discount and it's cheaper than if you buy it from store. Besides if you read let's say 10 previews that's just opinion of 10 different people. I would buy DAI (and be disappointed by it) regardless of what other people said about it...

 

wow they released one bad game and suddenly they are money hungry liars (ofc they want money, why else would they make games?). I didn't forget about ME 1-3 and DAO+DA2 those were awesome games and I enjoy playing them even today. So they misstep on DAI, they got very negative feedback, I doubt they weill make same mistakes in ME4 or DA4

Never seen any pre-order discount in my country. Never ever.

 

And, on what is based the previews? Trailers? PR BS? Interviews of the publisher? More and more companies made a embargo to stop reviews before launch, so we don't know what is inside the game before release. If the game is good, we win. If the game is horrible and all the hype blatantly lied to us, it is the win for the publisher. Just remember Alien Colonial Marines with advertisements far better than the final game.

 

Since Bioware is "a division of EA" we got some DLC packed games (mass effect 2 and 3) with disapointing story and ending (ME3), strange turn in the series (DA2) and one total and absolute bug festival (DAI). Each game is digging deeper, close to the point the fanbase will leave.

 

Like other people has said on this thread : The pre-order for a customer depends on the trust they have about a game company. For exemple, if they decide that it will be an FPS division of EA (Battlefield) that will work solely on ME4, I'll run away!

Nowaday, we can't trust IGN, Metacritic or openly sold Youtubers. We can't have ANY idea about a game pre-release. So why play russian roulette to give some money to people that lied to us during the whole 2014 year?

[Meave]

Nowaday, we can't trust IGN, Metacritic or openly sold Youtubers. We can't have ANY idea about a game pre-release. So why play russian roulette to give some money to people that lied to us during the whole 2014 year?

 

lied about what?

[cotheer]

From Bioware, no.
Will consider preordering TW3.

[Keitaro57]

lied about what?

Titanfall : revolution? No, almost empty game with little to no singleplayer.

Watchdogs : Ultimate graphics? No, dumbed down between the trailer and the release.

Destiny : Fantastic story and game overall? No, horde mode, horde mode and horde mode in an totally empty lore universe.

Dragon Age Inquistion : Only fewer NPC for the PS360 version? No, a bug festival and not a single move to correct it or even to respond to the fans.

Civilization Beyond Earth : A renewal of an old license? No, a skin addon.

The Crew : Must I really talk about how boring this game is?

NHL 14 : Upgrade? No, downgrade.

Sims 4 : No comments...

Assassin Creed Unity : 70 G of Patch... wow... And a fully fonctionnal microtransaction bank in the middle.

The Elder Scroll Online : Skyrim online? No, F2P with snow.

 

A festival of PR BS, over hyped games and butthurts players. What a great year...

[Meave]

Dragon Age Inquistion : Only fewer NPC for the PS360 version? No, a bug festival and not a single move to correct it or even to respond to the fans.

 

 

what? How are those two sentences connected in any way?

[Keitaro57]

what? How are those two sentences connected in any way?

It was the promise of Bioware : DAI will run smoothly on old-gen with the price of rarer NPCs and fewer visual effects. In fact, I can't judge anybody (game crash), can't talk to the companions in Haven or SkyHold (game freeze), and had little to no banter. And it is only the more common bugs I encounter, see the review in my sign for further explanation.

[Seraphael]

I've pre-ordered every Bioware game for as long as I can remember, yet I haven't actually completed a single Dragon Age game so far. If the patching of DAI doesn't delay too much, I aim to change that however. But the longer it takes, the more likely I'll move on and never look back.

 

I will definitely NOT be pre-ordering the next DA installment , but will probably do so with the next Mass Effect game as all of those games have been well polished out the door and since I prefer the ME setting and gameplay to that of DA anyway. Standard fantasy RPG is so over done.

[ardarn]

Titanfall : revolution? No, almost empty game with little to no singleplayer.
Watchdogs : Ultimate graphics? No, dumbed down between the trailer and the release.
Destiny : Fantastic story and game overall? No, horde mode, horde mode and horde mode in an totally empty lore universe.
Dragon Age Inquistion : Only fewer NPC for the PS360 version? No, a bug festival and not a single move to correct it or even to respond to the fans.
Civilization Beyond Earth : A renewal of an old license? No, a skin addon.
The Crew : Must I really talk about how boring this game is?
NHL 14 : Upgrade? No, downgrade.
Sims 4 : No comments...
Assassin Creed Unity : 70 G of Patch... wow... And a fully fonctionnal microtransaction bank in the middle.
The Elder Scroll Online : Skyrim online? No, F2P with snow.

A festival of PR BS, over hyped games and butthurts players. What a great year...

This. So much this.
What the hell happened last year?

I cannot describe how disappointed I was in Destiny. And Skyrim taught me to wait at least a year after release and not to touch any new Bethasa game again.

DAI is not the game I was waiting for. It looked like the one I get to used to at first. But after the initial awe disappeared, I left with a game .....that is lacklustre in so many ways.

I will definitely wait with the next one till the real player reviews come out. Theone's I trust. Very difficult to find them these days:/

[Jeffry]

You should be ashamed. These are peoples' lives your talking about.

 

I am also a person and I've been blatantly lied to straight to my face in order to trick me into buying their unfinished and completely different product than advertised and promised. All that with the big old PR smile on and without any compunction, so excuse us if we want to see people with still some integrity left in their place. New people, that will treat us like customers and not sheep.

 

 

Here for those that couldn't find a review from TB. Starts at 8 minutes... ish. And it's not technicaly his review but just his thoughts after around 60 hours.

Prolly the most we'll get out of him on this game it sounds like. Just thought some folks might enjoy. Was a biatch to find.

 

Ah, I already saw that video, but thanks for the link anyway. Some people might find his opinions spot on, just as I did. It is definitely worth watching.

 

 

if you preorder you get discount and it's cheaper than if you buy it from store. Besides if you read let's say 10 previews that's just opinion of 10 different people. I would buy DAI (and be disappointed by it) regardless of what other people said about it...

 

wow they released one bad game and suddenly they are money hungry liars (ofc they want money, why else would they make games?). I didn't forget about ME 1-3 and DAO+DA2 those were awesome games and I enjoy playing them even today. So they misstep on DAI, they got very negative feedback, I doubt they weill make same mistakes in ME4 or DA4

 

Yeah, cheaper... instead of 60 EUR on Origin / Steam, they sometimes go for 50 EUR, which is still 14% more expensive than retail versions (which don't get cheaper for pre-orders here), so...

 

They have lied to us ever since DA2. I was able to forgive them back then, because the game, despite its shortcomings, still managed to improve upon Origins in many important aspects. They definitely lied prior to ME3 release - do you remember how they for example promised the ending will not at all be A-B-C and then in reality it was A-B-C? But they at least released EC for free and in Leviathan they offered even more explanation. But DAI? Strike 3. And I am forgetting SWTOR and its terrible lack of end game content on launch. As of right now they are still going on about what GOTY award they managed to win (buy their way to) this time instead of issuing any apology or at least acknowledged that they did screw up.

 

Previews are worthless. Reviews matter and the honest ones come out only after the game is released.

[wolfsite]

I will not ever preorder a bioware/ea game again as well. Unless I see them return to their roots of making a product for the fans, not something that will be "commercially successful."

Inquisition was almost completely based on fan feedback.  Fans whined that they wanted a larger game more resembling Skyrim and that is what they got, they just forgot how barren Skyrim can be (At least we didn't get the game breaking bugs Skyrim had when it launched).

 

Fans wanted selectable races and Bioware delayed the game over a year to implement this.

 

Bioware has shown that they have been listening to feedback from the fanbase (Some developers on the next Mass Effect have been asking people on Twitter things they would like to see), if anything this shows that people should be careful what they wish for.

[BountyhunterGER]

Do I preorder games? Normally no but I make an exception for Bioware games (no, I wasn't disappointed by DAI or ME3 (well, except for the ending)).

[Gustave Flowbert]

PREORDER OF MY PREORDER CANCELLED!

[Meave]

I am also a person and I've been blatantly lied to straight to my face in order to trick me into buying their unfinished and completely different product than advertised and promised. All that with the big old PR smile on and without any compunction, so excuse us if we want to see people with still some integrity left in their place. New people, that will treat us like customers and not sheep.

 

 

 

They have lied to us ever since DA2. I was able to forgive them back then, because the game, despite its shortcomings, still managed to improve upon Origins in many important aspects. They definitely lied prior to ME3 release - do you remember how they for example promised the ending will not at all be A-B-C and then in reality it was A-B-C? But they at least released EC for free and in Leviathan they offered even more explanation. But DAI? Strike 3. And I am forgetting SWTOR and its terrible lack of end game content on launch. As of right now they are still going on about what GOTY award they managed to win (buy their way to) this time instead of issuing any apology or at least acknowledged that they did screw up.

 

Previews are worthless. Reviews matter and the honest ones come out only after the game is released.

 

what shortcomings? I didn't like DA2, but after some time I ended up liking it better than DAO. I don't see any flaw in ME3 from combat mechanic perspective it's even better than ME2. Also I love war assets cos it reflects your whole trilogy experience. And for the endings? Well I didn't like it, but that's not game breaking experience for me and they somewhat fixed it. ABC sounds fine, how else should they make it? Like dragonkeep when ending would be compiled of short movies in succession? And if you "was able to forgive them" how come you still hold grudge over it and count it as strike (1 or 2? whatever)