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[Vortex13]

But I can't deny that this would be awesome:

 

 

 

I love this picture. I used this for my Elcor kit idea in the MP forums 

[CronoDragoon]

Batarian. Their culture is relatively unexplored, and they'd make a nice Renegade-type squadmate that butts heads with the PC over being human. So, like Javik sort of.

[Drone223]

 

But I can't deny that this would be awesome:

 

*snip*

Only one problem with that image.......they aren't using cain's.

[Fennekin]

Blasto, as one of the available love interests for the main character

[Vortex13]

Only one problem with that image.......they aren't using cain's.

 

 

It would be hilarious though if the villain sent his forces to attack the Elcor; because they're slow and stupid; and that image was greeting them as they got off their shuttles.

 

Bad Guy'S Second-In-Command: Get ready men, as soon as we touch down, we are to open fire on the Elcor present in the landing bay.

 

Low level Grunt: But sir, aren't the Elcor dangerous?

 

BG S-I-C: Nonsense! The Elcor have the smallest military force and no navy to speak of. Plus they are slow lumbering idiots. They wont stand a chance!

 

LLG: I don't know, I thought I heard the Turians calling them walking tanks.

 

BG S-I-C: That's just because they have thick skin. Aim for the legs, and they'll fall like a deck of cards.

 

LLG: If you say so.

 

BG S-I-C: How bad could it be?

 

The shuttle doors open to reveal an Elcor's tank cannon staring them down.

 

LLG: Oh fu- <BOOM!> 

[Quarian Master Race]

Zha'til

[EarthInhabitant]

I would have to disagree.

 

All the races in the setting have a great deal of nuance and depth, it's just that most of them are underutilized. Also, adding new species to the setting just because we want to have more aliens is the wrong way to go about it (IMO). I would want Mass Effect to not go the Star Trek route and have hundreds of alien species; the great majority of which have less than three sentences worth of backstory and general lore; or aliens that are introduced for one episode and then immediately forgotten about.

 

There are only so many troupes and concepts to go around before we start having an overlap; New Species X being nothing more than a re-skinned Krogan, or Quarian, for example. I prefer that we explore more with the aliens we have, species with their own firmly established backgrounds and lore instead of getting twenty new aliens 10 of which are Not-Krogan, 5 are Not-Geth, 3 have absolutely no backstory whatsoever, and 2 are one dimensional Not-Reapers villain races.

 

Good post and i agree with you, let me clarify that since bioware is designing 2 new races, i would be more interested in their potential than say an elcor squadmate. I would much rather bioware put priority on creating more diversity to the main races, proper female counterparts to Turian, Salarian and greater variation of the appearances. But some of the races serve better as side elements; the Elcor and Hanar were never meant to be taken too seriously. IMO it serves better not trying to do so. If their extended presence were implemented poorly, ME would start to look more like Star Wars (thats not a good thing) Though I admit it was unlikely that a Geth squadmate would implement well, and Legion became a favorite. 

[BioWareM0d13]

Speaking of female aliens...I always thought it odd that Bioware didn't have more. To some extent the lack can be explained by needing to create new character models, as they eventually did with the Turians, but some species wouldn't necessarily need a new character model at all. Would a human be able to tell a female Elcor from a male? Or an exo-suit wearing Volus? Those two races you could probably get away with just giving them female voice actors.

[KaiserShep]

The virtual alien is an interesting one, but it would basically have a robot avatar, essentially making it a synthetic companion like Legion or EDI. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued by the concept.

 

The batarian seems the most sensible one to me though, because they had a pretty strong presence throughout the series as the more antagonist, anti-human faction, only to then have their civilization completely wiped out in the end. Even Garrus got a motherloving batarian follower before we do.

 

I just have zero interest in the yagh. They're a bit much to be companion material. I'd rather just have another krogan before I get one of them.

 

As for the volus, it's really hard to take a combat volus seriously. MP whatever. These guys just look ridiculous XD

[Vortex13]

Good post and i agree with you, let me clarify that since bioware is designing 2 new races, i would be more interested in their potential than say an elcor squadmate. I would much rather bioware put priority on creating more diversity to the main races, proper female counterparts to Turian, Salarian and greater variation of the appearances. But some of the races serve better as side elements; the Elcor and Hanar were never meant to be taken too seriously. IMO it serves better not trying to do so. If their extended presence were implemented poorly, ME would start to look more like Star Wars (thats not a good thing) Though I admit it was unlikely that a Geth squadmate would implement well, and Legion became a favorite. 

 

 

I agree that the existing races should be fleshed out, more variety and nuance to the existing races is always a good thing. Though I would have disagree that races like the Elcor, Hanar, and Volus should never be viewed in a serious light and/or expanded upon. These races and other species like the Rachni offer a uniquely non-human perspective to the setting; despite their appearances the Turians, Salarians, Kroagn, Quarians, etc. are very human in their motivations and cultures. While this is not necessarily a bad thing, I would hope that the galaxy holds more than humans and re-skinned humans.

 

Races like the Elcor and Rachni need to be expand upon, if for no other reason than to provide a counter to the very human (and human-like) centric setting that Mass Effect became over the course of the trilogy (IMO). 

[dogstar12]

I would pick that Omega alien just to find out what the hell it is

[BioWareM0d13]

Didn't the Hamlet add in ME2 feature a female elcor that was identical to a male, but had a distinctly feminine voice, such as the female elcor in the Blasto add in ME3?

 

A-HA! Yes! At timestamp 0:57 a female elcor reciting Ophelia's lines in Hamlet.

 

 

Wow, I've never seen that one. I've seen a couple with the male Elcor, but not the one with the female.

[EarthInhabitant]

I agree that the existing races should be fleshed out, more variety and nuance to the existing races is always a good thing. Though I would have disagree that races like the Elcor, Hanar, and Volus should never be viewed in a serious light and/or expanded upon. These races and other species like the Rachni offer a uniquely non-human perspective to the setting; despite their appearances the Turians, Salarians, Kroagn, Quarians, etc. are very human in their motivations and cultures. While this is not necessarily a bad thing, I would hope that the galaxy holds more than humans and re-skinned humans.

 

Races like the Elcor and Rachni need to be expand upon, if for no other reason than to provide a counter to the very human (and human-like) centric setting that Mass Effect became over the course of the trilogy (IMO). 

 

 

The common variation between the main races is bipedalism, i'm not sure if that is what you want bioware to move away from, as the elcor, hanar and volus also share human traits and motivations; the volus are snide and prejudice, the hanar being prideful reclusives, and the elcor communicate by internal emotions. Perhaps their inclusion as combatants and squadmates could work, perhaps not; I feel their efforts to create a more immerse universe and realistic aliens/squad mates are better spent elsewhere.

 

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[Vortex13]

The common variation between the main races is bipedalism, i'm not sure if that is what you want bioware to move away from, as the elcor, hanar and volus also share human traits and motivations; the volus are snide and prejudice, the hanar being prideful reclusives, and the elcor communicate by internal emotions. Perhaps their inclusion as combatants and squadmates could work, perhaps not; I feel their efforts to create a more immerse universe and realistic aliens/squad mates are better spent elsewhere.

 

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You are right, no one can truly create an alien, as their nature would; by definition; defy our logic or understanding. There are elements of human qualities spread among all the aliens in the setting, but the races like the Elcor, the Hanar, the Volus, and the Rachni have the most 'alien' qualities among them. It may simply be due to the fact that none of these species ever really held the spotlight for any extended period of time, but each one of these races have an element about them that makes them intrinsically different from us humans (appearance and general anatomy not withstanding).

 

 

How many of our alien squadmates had "human problems", things like daddy issues, or trying to understand how to feel and love? Garrus, Wrex, Liara and Tali had character defining issues with their fathers, EDI and Legion struggled with the concept of emotion and individuality, etc. I am not detracting from these characters, but they could have just as easily been replaced with a human character and their respective narratives would have been (mostly) the same. 

 

 

I would admit that I would like to see these 'outlying' aliens in combat situations; as many of their traits could very well prove to be advantageous in particular combat situations, but even outside of a firefight we could see these races bring something new and fresh to the table (IMO).

[Abraham_uk]

Didn't the Hamlet add in ME2 feature a female elcor that was identical to a male, but had a distinctly feminine voice, such as the female elcor in the Blasto add in ME3?

 

A-HA! Yes! At timestamp 0:57 a female elcor reciting Ophelia's lines in Hamlet.

 

 

 

Gladly, I welcome your contribution.

Amorously, I accept inclusion of Elcor in the next Mass Effect game.