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[ehye_khandee]

 I doubt there's a reliable way of getting substantially higher in the search findings.

 

Oh, ye of little faith.

[Fester Pot]

Oh, ye of little faith.

 

Best friend ever, ehye_khandee, I look forward to your great wisdom and knowledge to bring forth such information!

 

 

 

 

I have never really checked but has anyone ever done a "lets play NWN" on Youtube?

 

 

Here is a Neverwinter Nights Let's Play -

 

https://www.youtube....272141E38405C24

 

 

Here is a Neverwinter Nights Shadowguard Let's Play -

 

https://www.youtube....5D9C84595E7B77B

 

FP!

[Wensleydale]

And here's the original promotional trailer from BG2:

 

https://youtu.be/aD8BnROvBRc

 

I remember almost soiling myself in anticipation when I first saw that.

[ehye_khandee]

Best friend ever, ehye_khandee, I look forward to your great wisdom and knowledge to bring forth such information!

 

 

Sorry but I don't do this for free for anyone anymore - it is too much work for that.

[kalbaern]

Sorry but I don't do this for free for anyone anymore - it is too much work for that.

Why do you even bother to make posts here anymore if all you're going to do is be snarky, petulant and rarely anything approaching helpful. Thankfully, most of us here do share with each other freely, and none of us expect payment. This is a volunteer community and if you're going to continue to count yourself a member, perhaps you should adopt the spirit of our beloved community and actually help folks.

[ehye_khandee]

Why do you even bother to make posts here anymore if all you're going to do is be snarky, petulant and rarely anything approaching helpful. Thankfully, most of us here do share with each other freely, and none of us expect payment. This is a volunteer community and if you're going to continue to count yourself a member, perhaps you should adopt the spirit of our beloved community and actually help folks.

 

I posted to indicate that YOU CAN improve search engine ranking, to dismiss it was wrong and spreads the wrong idea.

 

Snarky? Not at all, just factual. I do share, here, but I don't do work for others on request. I have released scripts and other material and often offer useful advice. If you don't like it, don't read it. Factually, I'm spot on.

 

I did not volunteer to help on this issue, I'm disabled and have no time to offer you. Don't push it and act like I should jump up and labor for your benefit just cause you ask. Volunteer is just that, I volunteer to do things when and where I can help. What I volunteered here was the benefit of my experience; you CAN improve search engine rankings, never dismiss it to do so is to have the opposite effect (while others continue to improve their own prospects, yours will flounder).

 

Wisdom.

 

Delivered free of charge.

 

*bows*

[kalbaern]

I posted to indicate that YOU CAN improve search engine ranking, to dismiss it was wrong and spreads the wrong idea.

 

Snarky? Not at all, just factual. I do share, here, but I don't do work for others on request. I have released scripts and other material and often offer useful advice. If you don't like it, don't read it. Factually, I'm spot on.

 

I did not volunteer to help on this issue, I'm disabled and have no time to offer you. Don't push it and act like I should jump up and labor for your benefit just cause you ask. Volunteer is just that, I volunteer to do things when and where I can help. What I volunteered here was the benefit of my experience; you CAN improve search engine rankings, never dismiss it to do so is to have the opposite effect (while others continue to improve their own prospects, yours will flounder).

 

Wisdom.

 

Delivered free of charge.

 

*bows*

As usual, our Most wonderful, High Exalted, eye_khandee has given us his wonderfully insightful retort, and once again the result boils down to nothing of use.

 

There are in fact -ways to get substantially higher in search ratings- and I'll outline a few for folks.

 

1) Post on Forums/Websites that can be publicly viewed without having to register. If you have to register to make a post, that's fine, but search engine bots aren't known to register accounts and login and usually only display publicly viewable results.

2) Update those posts from time to time.

3) Use keywords in the titles of threads that match the audience you desire.

4) Also use keywords in the posts themselves.

 

While it doesn't necessarily increase search ratings, including links in posts, or i your signatures to here, the new vault, etc... helps folks track us down all the faster.

 

Also keep in mind that search results will vary from user to user based on the search engine used and what that engine has recorded as preferences for that particular user. Still, as posts are made, keywords used, and as more and more folks follow links to them, you'll find that ratings/results will slowly increase. the "key" is using keywords that many folks will use in their own searches.

 

Really, the same guidelines apply even for searches on these forums. I can't count how many times I've tried to go back and dig up a useful tidbit posted here, but because the thread lacked keywords in the title and/or posts themselves, relocating it takes an inordinate amount of time.

[ehye_khandee]

As usual, our Most wonderful, High Exalted, eye_khandee has given us his wonderfully insightful retort, and once again the result boils down to nothing of use.

 

You miss the mark again. Had I not posted, you'd never gotten off your posterior long enough to post this, so I guess I did some good after all. Tho, TBH you have a long long way to go on your SEO lore. Best wishes to you tho, go man go!

 

Now all you have to do is apply what lore you have. *clicks the stopwatch and smiles*

[Verilazic]

Hello. I thought it was just a joke. Both times. I was amused anyway, even if no one else was.

 

Apparently I'm missing out on lots of historical drama here, but somehow I don't feel left out. Never been a fan of that genre anyway.

 

Anyway, I was referring more to the competition than to any concept of it not being possible to improve pagerank. My apologies for being unclear. As for the rest, if ehye_khandee wants to keep things to himself, that's his god damned prerogative. You don't get people to contribute by castigating those who don't, even if they are being... uppity.

 

Edited for more interesting words.

[ehye_khandee]

Snarky, Uppity, oy, you miss the mark, there is none of that there.

 

Simple facts, the WWW is only change. It is not today what it was yesterday, it will not be tomorrow what it is today. If you are not monitoring, and adjusting your strategies for Search Engine Optimization (SEO) based on what it is morphing into, you are being slowly pushed down the rankings as other newer sites, some of which have more current/effective SEO in them than does your clunkier, older site, are created or optimized specifically to target the keywords and phrases that YOUR site needs.

 

Those who do not understand SEO tend to simplify the process. Doing effective SEO is neither simple nor quick. More it is nothing I can entertain doing for others for free (my health necessitates I focus on a limited number of things and SEO for the sites of strangers is one more task than I can accommodate).

[ehye_khandee]

Really, the same guidelines apply even for searches on these forums. I can't count how many times I've tried to go back and dig up a useful tidbit posted here, but because the thread lacked keywords in the title and/or posts themselves, relocating it takes an inordinate amount of time.

 

I totally agree, it would be splendid if only we could FIND via search engine usage the things we want, but keywords and content alone is not enough these days. This is _exactly_ why we were building neverwinterconnections.com as a properly optimized build from the ground-up, so that anyone could find any post in the lot with ease. MUCH of proper SEO is in the design.

 

As a channel gets more noisy, it is increasingly essential to broadcast at higher power levels.

 

"-0=" which is officially my newest cat's first Internet post.

[Wensleydale]

Come on guys -- group hug. Life is too short to engage in pointless slanging matches on the Intardnet. That's why we have Reddit.

[Verilazic]

Hah! So that's why I avoid Reddit!

[Lilura]

I actually registered at Reddit, I dunno, like a year ago, but the site just confused me and I've never had the courage to post there.

 

This forum is very quiet, though...

[kalbaern]

I actually registered at Reddit, I dunno, like a year ago, but the site just confused me and I've never had the courage to post there.

 

This forum is very quiet, though...

Yeah, the sub forum there for NWN sees very little traffic compared to other places.

[Grani]

I think this is a good place to post this.

 

I noticed that you can't find most of NWN premium modules soundtrack on YT, so I created a channel to post it.

I also grabbed the opportunity to inform the viewers of every video that the module with relevant music is available to download for free if you have Neverwinter Nights installed. I also included short descriptions of these premium modules, download links for said modules and the Offline Authenticator Generator for them and a link to neverwinternights.info .

 

This probably won't attract many players, but it's better than nothing, I guess. I might upload some other videos in the future. Some tutorials on grabbing some of the best game enhancements according to me and perhaps some Let's Play series of modules/campaigns that have not yet been covered on YouTube. Everything I can do to fill this niche.

 

Here's the channel if anyone wants to take a look.

 

https://www.youtube....Rg?spfreload=10

[kuronue bloodlust]

The sarcasum expressed by some on the forums has gotten to be an issue, its turned form sarcasum to mean banter getting a little out of and and sadly its been a bordeline issue for a while. Come on guys tone it down, online sarcasum does not translate well and its not a very nice thing in the real world as well.

 

As for the people not showing in servers, we may need to get Bioware to host a singluar update that redriects to the player one; or at least get them to fix the mass content ovewrite that has been crrupted for yeas. as neither is likely to happen we may need a having problems downloading and playing mass post posted everywhere one can aquire NWN by informing the hosting where they can link to the post or article that adresses the issue of NWN's crrupted Update.

 

If we want to see player in servers again we do have to make it easer for them to find the information and get the updates. The other side is we have to have open server vaults again, I do not mind hosting my own server if my conection allows it I will be getting a work station hub to replace this broken dieing laptop and that shuld be more stable when the server is up and running.

 

i think its also importiant to rememebr that while they don't have a loud voice (ironicaly because of sarcaum on forums this isnt just a NWN thing) PVE players vastly outnumber pvp players 10 to1 last time there was an actual poll. That number has increased since than, so I think we should try for a more open welcomeing enviorenemnt as oppose to the not so well translated sarcasum.

[Baaleos]

Changing the redirect is not an easy matter for a large scale corporation like Bioware, especially when they were swallowed by the EA monster.

Officially changing their nwn.master.bioware.com  Subdomain to point to a community address would be like an official endorsement.

From a Liability point of view, Bioware would not do something like that, unless the site / server it pointed at was Bioware managed and controlled.

 

Imagine the scandal if Bioware pointed at that server, and then suddenly that server starts infecting computers with a virus.

(NOTE - I know that would never happen - this is a hypothetical scenario.

              This is why Bioware would not likely officially redirect to a third party site / server outside of their control - as that server could one day host malicious content, or material contrary to Biowares business interests.)

 

Imagine someone types in nwn.master.bioware.com     and it redirected to a porn site.

Once Bioware puts in place a redirect to a community run server, the community could put anything up in its place.

[kuronue bloodlust]

Changing the redirect is not an easy matter for a large scale corporation like Bioware, especially when they were swallowed by the EA monster.

Officially changing their nwn.master.bioware.com  Subdomain to point to a community address would be like an official endorsement.

From a Liability point of view, Bioware would not do something like that, unless the site / server it pointed at was Bioware managed and controlled.

 

Imagine the scandal if Bioware pointed at that server, and then suddenly that server starts infecting computers with a virus.

(NOTE - I know that would never happen - this is a hypothetical scenario.

              This is why Bioware would not likely officially redirect to a third party site / server outside of their control - as that server could one day host malicious content, or material contrary to Biowares business interests.)

 

Imagine someone types in nwn.master.bioware.com     and it redirected to a porn site.

Once Bioware puts in place a redirect to a community run server, the community could put anything up in its place.

EA has staff memebers in pace to prevent that issue they spend so much money being a pain about rateings they don't spend enough into development. this is made obvious by how may games have been fixed after they became player run.

 

I undersstand your concern but understand that there is more than just not payed enough to deal with these kinds moderators on their x-box games.

[kamal_]

EA has staff memebers in pace to prevent that issue they spend so much money being a pain about rateings they don't spend enough into development. this is made obvious by how may games have been fixed after they became player run.

 

I undersstand your concern but understand that there is more than just not payed enough to deal with these kinds moderators on their x-box games.

EA staff members can't make a community server do anything.

[Squatting Monk]

I doubt EA is going to pay their staff to police community-created content for a game they don't even own.

[Savagefool]

See we would get players in easily if we could convince GOG.COM to add nwnxc and a patched version of nwmain.exe as standard for every person that buys the game. That way our servers will come up with any additional searching.

[WebShaman]

You all do realize how hard it is to find this forum these days, right?

I mean...I know that they were here but it took me a bit of puzzling to find them again.

For someone new to the game - good luck.

A better way to reach out to new players is needed.

[MrZork]

You all do realizability how hard it is to find this forum these days, right?

I mean...I know that they were here but it took me a bit of puzzling to find them again.

For someone new to the game - good luck.

A better way to reach out to new players is needed.

I totally agree with this. I suspect that, barring some change in the game that GOG is selling, new NWN players are likely to end up (and end up disappointed) at the Bioware main page when trying to see what else is going on with this game.

 

I complained a while ago that the most likely way that new players (who just got the game via GOG, for instance) are to hear about these forums is when the two loading screen hints in the game show up that both mention nwn.bioware.com. And, of course, if a player goes there looking for something NWN-related, he will helpfully find... nothing. On the main Bioware page to which nwn.bioware.com redirects, there isn't a singe mention of Neverwinter Nights, nor even a link that would bring one directly to an NWN page at all. And, a dedicated newb who clicks on the Games link and then scrolls down to the "Previous Games" and then finds the NWN area can then finally click on a link that will take him... nowhere. The links in that area consist of a few screenshots (nice enough, but not actually links to anything else about the game) and a dead link to an Atari support page.

 

Additionally, since "Social" (which I would guess it likely someone's attempt at alluding to the "social media" buzzphrase in the forum name) isn't really the standard name for forums, many people at that main page won't even realize that there are any forums on the Bioware site, much less ones devoted to a game not even mentioned on that main page.

 

I am past expecting Bioware/EA to be active in promoting NWN. Honestly, I don't blame them for not doing it. However, it would take a web professional all of about 5 minutes to have nwn.bioware.com redirect to the main NWN Forum page. That way, at least people trying the link that is still in the game that is being sold today would arrive at some official page that is recognizably focused on NWN.

[WebShaman]

Well...we really need to consider what options we have available.

 

Either we politely ask GoG to include a link with the packaged NWN to this forum area...

 

Or perhaps they would like to open a new NWN forum there, with the possiblity of linking a sticky to here.

 

Any other suggestions?