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Lost City of Barindur


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Asking here, because I haven't managed to figure it out for myself--

 

Most of the early human tribes are listed in lore along with general locations as to where they thrived (before they merged into other cultures/tribes or were destroyed.)  It's commonly said in the few places that Barindur is mentioned that all that is left of it is barren, empty rock where it used to exist.  (And since Genitivi wrote this piece of lore, obviously no one has ever built atop the area, even after thousands of years...)

 

Does it say anywhere where this regional is generally located?  I mean, even a vague location, as in which cardinal direction from Minrathous? The other 3 Neromenian branches (Qarinus, Tevinter, Neromenian) are listed with general geographical areas of occupation within the World of Thedas book but Barindur isn't. Considering the sprawl back then, and no specific geographical boundary lines, I think it could have been just about anywhere north of Ferelden. Maybe even the hissing wastes...?

 

Just curious ;)



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Well, Genitivi says that it was during HIS travel through Tevinter, so (if that was really the place) Barindur should be located somewhere within current boundries of Tevinter. Minrathous is stated to be distant, so it shouldn't be too close to capital. Expression "northern plains" would suggest north of Minrathous, but that doesn't make much sense seeing where Minrathous lies, so perhaps it's not counted from Minrathous, perhaps Genitivi means northern parts of some greater patch of land identified as "plains"? Or maybe he just means the type of scenery he identifies with plains in the north...

Also, the "punishment" of Barindur is worded as "Kingdom of Barindur fell silend" and it was supposedly caused by Dumat, Dragon of Silence... These things can get reflected in geographical names. So, if I were to bet, I'd say: Tevinter part of Silent Plains region.

But that's mostly speculation, mind you, the only thing I'm relatively sure of is that it's supposed to be somewhere in Tevinter.



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It's somewhere in modern Tevinter.

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It's in modern Tevinter. Probably along the inner sea, like the other kingdoms united to form the Imperium. :)

Solas mentions it as having been buried in volcanic ash and preserved, Pompeii style. Of course, it could still be the wrath of Dumat or an elf god or what have you.



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Yes, it was that comment that sparked the curiosity.  I was wondering if it may have been a volcano rather than an Old God that did it!  But I had not heard of volcanoes in Thedas thus far. The Silent Plains area makes a lot of sense as well, especially being near the town named Solas. Thanks, everyone :)



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Yes, it was that comment that sparked the curiosity.  I was wondering if it may have been a volcano rather than an Old God that did it!  But I had not heard of volcanoes in Thedas thus far. The Silent Plains area makes a lot of sense as well, especially being near the town named Solas. Thanks, everyone :)

I think Dragon's Peak is a now-dormant volcano :D 

I'm pretty certain of that, but I'm not sure where I got this from...



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Yes, it was that comment that sparked the curiosity.  I was wondering if it may have been a volcano rather than an Old God that did it!  But I had not heard of volcanoes in Thedas thus far. The Silent Plains area makes a lot of sense as well, especially being near the town named Solas. Thanks, everyone :)

There's the Sea of Ash to the west, I could see volcanoes being there. :)

It's worth noting that the Romans didn't know volcanoes were a thing until Mount Vesuvius turned traitor on them and wiped out Pompeii. The survivors spread word, and they called it volcano after Vulcan the smith god. Something similar probably happened with Barindur, but there were no survivors except for Zaeed Messani.

Maybe their version of the Ring of Fire is farther north. *shrug*

 

Dragon's Peak being a dormant volcano does make a certain amount of sense. :D



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Also, don't forget - when speaking of other myths, Morrigan makes the point of saying that figures of legends or gods are attached to the stories at a later date (this is from Origins when she's speaking of Flemmeth and the Chasind legend). But it is a valid point, and being able to claim "act of God" (Dumat) is much more impressive than "act of nature" (volcano).

 

That's even assuming they have a word for volcano and don't treat it as some type of dragon mouthpiece, especially given that another name for obsidian is dragon glass.