How are templars seen across Thedas?
#1
Posté 12 mars 2015 - 08:29
Would it be correct to assume humans are the only race that looks up to templars as their protectors, while everyone else is indifferent to them at best?
The're not necessarily hated, but I wonder what non-human person would think of them as the first option when seeking for help.
I need to know because I'm still trying to figure out what kind of character I'll choose for siding with the templars.
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#2
Posté 12 mars 2015 - 08:37
Sera makes it clear it's just as bad as the mages.
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#3
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 04:02
#4
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 04:27
There are non-human Templars (mentioned in Last Flight iirc), so at least those particular individuals saw worth in joining the Order. And in the games, we've seen Andrastian elves and dwarves. I would think there are non-humans who revere the Templars and see them as a positive force, especially the ones who join up.
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#5
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 05:49
Since the Chantry buying Lyrium for it's Templars is the only thing keeping Orzammar's economy running, I imagine that the Dwarves are big fans of the order.
#6
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 07:33
My impression from the games and books is that they're generally well regarded, though there are exceptions. Cullen's exasperation about Kirkwall citizens increasingly shunning and looking down on the order comes to mind.
I don't think a non-human would be indifferent at best just because they're non-human. I don't think race matters as much as it may appear. While personal experience matters a great deal, and race is a central influence for that, personal history and personality play a role as well. A city elf may value the service the Templars provide when they responded to a magical incident in their alienage, or be resentful after a young magling relative was taken away. (Or of course, my favorite, one or both of those things could have happened, and they have mixed feelings). A dwarf may value the order as essential to their economy, and/or appreciate the regulation of magic. (Dwarven society would likely cease to exist without the lyrium trade, and magic is a largely alien phenomenon to the dwarves, something they might prefer to be leashed and over there). Or, they may think the templar order does basically good work but goes too far, perhaps because they identify more with human culture than dwarven. A Dalish elf may despise the order as a threat to their people or secretly believe the Chantry has it right with their system (maybe they met an Andrastian one day while trading and secretly converted).
Those are just some ideas off the top of my head. ![]()
Also, if it helps: I originally concepted my Lavellan to go with the Templars. Without getting two deep into it, her two main motivations were: 1) She didn't believe putting more magic into the mark was the right way to go and 2) The mages were enslaved to Tevinter, too much of a risk for an option she didn't favor anyway. She wouldn't have loved going to the Templars, it would be a lesser of two evils kind of thing. She would have taken the opportunity to conscript them, to restructure them and influence their future (one where they'll fortify the Inquisition to fight Corypheus and maybe one day be less of a threat, even an ambient one, to the Dalish). I still think it's a viable path, but I changed it because playing a First that allied with the mages was ultimately more interesting to me.
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#7
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 12:27
#8
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 01:57
Any race can be pro templar. I have a pro templar Qunari mage at the moment. He does want mages to be free but, he also knows all too well that mages need specialized training and, there has to be someone there that is able to deal with abominations when they happen, because they will. Not all mages are as strong as he is, most can resist possession but, not all and, that's where templars come in. They need to be stations such that every village or town and notify one quickly, and abominations can be dealt with.
My human warrior was anti templar, thought the armies were enough, didn't need lyrium eating fools at all.
So any race and class can be head cannoned any way yo like, and it makes sense.
#9
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 03:16
#10
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 04:10
I'd guess surface dwarves as a whole would be relatively positive about Templars. After all, they're not going to be taking away any of their family. But a Carta Dwarf might have an odd perspective on them, since Templars are effectively their junkie customers.
Dalish would be used to seeing Templars as a threat to their clan, hostility seems the most likely outcome their.
Tal Vashoth it's probably pretty hard to generalise. Maybe you've kept some of the Qunari attitudes, and value order and duty and so on, while fearing magic etc? Or maybe you see the Templars as the same sort of oppressive rubbish that your parents escaped from? Or maybe you don't really care.
#11
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 04:17
So any race and class can be head cannoned any way yo like, and it makes sense.
Quoted for truth.
#12
Posté 13 mars 2015 - 06:44
It kind of depends on which Templars you are talking about.
According to Dorian, the Templars of the Tevinter Imperium are basically cabana boys. So I think they would be viewed very differently from Kirkwall Templars for example.





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