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[The Love Runner]

Do you like apple pie?

Pumpkin Pie > Apple Pie

[Lotion Soronarr]

You will never understand, then, my quest to have "feels = reals". You'll never be the strongest emotionally. To learn from our emotions and understand the consequences they bring is what defines our humanity. Your calculations stop us from showing just how unique we are to the universe. You only see us as beings to add to your puppet collection.

You also see fit to dispose of other creatures, creatures who can guide us and who we can cooperate with, not because they pose a threat, but because they are different from us. You're scared of what you don't understand, and rather than establishing contact with them to learn about who they are and why they are that way, you would rather dispose of them and have the galaxy lose such valuable information.

You dishonor Horus with your views, and you've gotten Despair and Jackal to follow with similar views. I feel sorry for how misguided all three of you are. As you three follow the path you've conjured up with xenophobia...I will go with my heart to help all life forms be the best they can be.
 

 

 

I must commend you on the mental gimnastics you exhibit in an effort to save face. But your defeat is a fact. I have gazed into the future with my clayvorant sight and see your fate.

 

To equate emotional instability with strength is lunacy. To think that unchecked emotion is what defines humanity is a fallacy. Emotions are but one aspect of a human being. It is reason, our will that raised us from our primitive caves and gave us the stars. The curiosity, the inventivness, the ability to build, analyze, improve and grow.

Emotions didn't produce the wheel. They didn't engineer our cities. They didn't capture the very power of a star or allow us to rule over the universe. It was reason.

 

You think I do not value emotion? No Vader, I am humanity personafied. I know emotion, I feel it more keenly than you can imagine, for I am a legion in one body and I know the minds and souls of my subjects. You cannot comprehend the depth of my love for humanity or my grief for every loss it suffers. But I must not let my emotions get the better of me. The galaxy is a cruel place and unchecked emotions lead to disaster. The chaos gods feed upon them.

I wonder, how strong were you emotionally, how enlightened a being where you when you were slaughtering your friends and children?

 

 

To top it off, you presume to know my plans and what I know. Have you forgotten which one of us can read the minds of entire planets?

I know which aliens pose a threat and why, for I have observed them for millenia. An alien will put the interest of his species ahead of humanity. It is normal. It is to be expected. As I said, I'm open to peace, provided the interests of humanity are safeguarded and negotiations are possible or fruitful.

 

You go from betraying everyone and murder to advocating galactic peace and friendship. An unstable mind, living in a fantasy. Did you perhaps get into Doomriders stash of drugs? That might explains a few things.

 

But please, go ahead and go talk piece with the Orks or Tyranids or the Dark Eldar. I'm sure the talks will be very productive...

 

 

 

[Sully13]

destroying planets is a wast i have a better plan.

[The Jackal]

I'm going to cast my ballot right now. I think I seen everything I needed to say. How would I not support such a superior advance being just as Lotion. His skills are witting people have no equal. I'm not just casting this to make Darth lose. I'm casting this ballot to make the community of BSN win. Lotion 2016. Yes We can. 

[TurianRebel212]

I'd vote myself, all you other candidates are just peasants and soft on crime. I have the intellect, connections, girth, and length to be a great BSN President. 

 

Vote For TurianRebel212. 

 

A vote TurianRebel212 is a vote for the future. 

 

 

[Beerfish]

[The Love Runner]

I must commend you on the mental gimnastics you exhibit in an effort to save face. But your defeat is a fact. I have gazed into the future with my clayvorant sight and see your fate.
 
To equate emotional instability with strength is lunacy. To think that unchecked emotion is what defines humanity is a fallacy. Emotions are but one aspect of a human being. It is reason, our will that raised us from our primitive caves and gave us the stars. The curiosity, the inventivness, the ability to build, analyze, improve and grow.
Emotions didn't produce the wheel. They didn't engineer our cities. They didn't capture the very power of a star or allow us to overrule the universe. It was reason.
 
You think I do not value emotion? No Vader, I am humanity personafied. I know emotion, I feel it more keenly than you can imagine, for I am a legion in one body and I know the minds and souls of my subjects. You cannot comprehend the depth of my love for humanity or my grief for every loss it suffers. But I must not let my emotions get the better of me. The galaxy is a cruel place and unchecked emotions lead to disaster. The chaos gods feed upon them.
I wonder, how strong were you emotionally, how enlightened a being where you when you were slaughtering your friends and children?
 
 
To top it off, you presume to know my plans and what I know. Have you forgotten which one of us can read the minds of entire planets?
I know which aliens pose a threat and why, for I have observed them for millenia. An alien will put the interest of his species ahead of humanity. It is normal. It is to be expected. As I said, I'm open to peace, provided the interests of humanity are safeguarded and negotiations are possible or fruitful.
 
You go from betraying everyone and murder to advocating galactic peace and friendship. An unstable mind, living in a fantasy. Did you perhaps get into Doomriders stash of drugs? That might explains a few things.
 
But please, go ahead and go talk piece with the Orks or Tyranids or the Dark Eldar. I'm sure the talks will be very productive...

How can you know my future when it is always in motion, ever-changing due to the actions I perform in the present? Whatever future you see is only a possibility, something that could happen, but might not. The future I have is shaped by what I do, and I take into account what those actions could bring.

You know what was behind our inventions? Inspiration, hope, determination, and yes, emotions, among other things. You honestly think reason was the only thing that brought them to life? We made those inventions so we could evolve, learn what we could do to better our lifestyle, and expand our horizons, yet you only see darkness in the galaxy, unable to experience the wonders of the cosmos. You don't see the honor that other species have, and how they respect and trust us for the honor humanity has.

You refuse to boldly go where no one has gone before out of fear, believing that you'll encounter hostility the moment you approach an unknown horizon. You just assume that every life form is a threat and shoot first and not even ask any questions. You already assured that they won't trust you by reading their minds, a violation of privacy, a basic right that every life form has. You feed into your own fear every time you exploit that ability, and it only detaches you from humanity even further.

One person putting another person's interests ahead of their own is something you can't accept, because you have only known the concept of war your entire life. How I react to my emotions is what allows me to better understand the type of individual I am and how unique each person is. Even if my future is as bleak as you claim it to be, I want to help with the choices that the people make for their futures. Their concerns matter more to me than whatever you think of me, so I'll be out there interacting and cooperating with diverse life forms, experiencing the wonders of the galaxy and confronting the issues instead of letting them stand, while you hide behind your ineffective fleet.

[Sully13]

pfft fullish organics. you only live for a pityfull few years. elect a decepticon and get your moneys worth.

[Morty Smith]

#THETRUTH

 

[The Love Runner]

pfft fullish organics. you only live for a pityfull few years. elect a decepticon and get your moneys worth.

Preventing future candidates from joining in elections, I see.

[Lotion Soronarr]

How can you know my future when it is always in motion, ever-changing due to the actions I perform in the present? Whatever future you see is only a possibility, something that could happen, but might not. The future I have is shaped by what I do, and I take into account what those actions could bring.

 

Your knowledge of the universe is pitiful. By tapping into the force you have but wet your toes on the shores of a deep ocean. I have navigated the Empyrian and battled eldricht abominations long before you were born.

You presume to lecture me about the nature of the universe. All of your knowledge and power is nothing more than a tiny match, barely illuminating a feet of darkness in front of you. You are still blind, but confident.

My knowledge is like the sun, basking everything in revealing light. The nature of the universe and the course of time and dimensions is known to me.

 

You know what was behind our inventions? Inspiration, hope, determination, and yes, emotions, among other things. You honestly think reason was the only thing that brought them to life? We made those inventions so we could evolve, learn what we could do to better our lifestyle, and expand our horizons, yet you only see darkness in the galaxy, unable to experience the wonders of the cosmos. You don't see the honor that other species have, and how they respect and trust us for the honor humanity has.

 

Reason is what made our inventions possible. No amount of hope or determination can replace understanding - something you seem to clearly lack.

And no, I am not downplaying the value of emotions, it is you who wish to twist my words to make it sound so.

I have seen wonders of the cosmos beyond your imagining. Things hidden beyond the sights of mortal men. I have seen everything.

 

You refuse to boldly go where no one has gone before out of fear, believing that you'll encounter hostility the moment you approach an unknown horizon. You just assume that every life form is a threat and shoot first and not even ask any questions. You already assured that they won't trust you by reading their minds, a violation of privacy, a basic right that every life form has. You feed into your own fear every time you exploit that ability, and it only detaches you from humanity even further.

 

I have conquered the entire galaxy in 200 years. I united the scattered remains of humanity, risen them from the precipice of anihhilation and given them back their glory. I have brought back science and reason and ushered a new golden age for humanity.

I think that fits the definition of "to boldly go".

What have you done in your life to advance the human race?

You destroyed the very Republic you swore loyalty to, betrayed the people who trusted you and hunted down the remaining Jedi and your friends. You have been an instrument of destruction, nothing more. You built nothing. You created nothing. You expanded nothing, least of all the human condition.

A wise man hopes for the best, but prepares for the worst. You, Vader, are not a wise man.

 

 

One person putting another person's interests ahead of their own is something you can't accept, because you have only known the concept of war your entire life. How I react to my emotions is what allows me to better understand the type of individual I am and how unique each person is. Even if my future is as bleak as you claim it to be, I want to help with the choices that the people make for their futures. Their concerns matter more to me than whatever you think of me, so I'll be out there interacting and cooperating with diverse life forms, experiencing the wonders of the galaxy and confronting the issues instead of letting them stand, while you hide behind your ineffective fleet.

 

On the contrary, it is exactly because I accept that concept that I act to safeguard humanity.

But I am glad you at least admit that alien civilizations will prioritize their interests over those of humanity.

 

As for my fleets, I'd say they are very effective, given that they accomplished more then yours ever will.

 

You Vader, are not even a match for one of my librarians.

[mousestalker]

^^TL:DNR

[Lotion Soronarr]

It seems my opponents, unable to stand against the might of the God-Emperor, have left the debate.

Of course. It is as I have foreseen.

This conclusion was inevitable.

 

The Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind, the anathema of Chaos, shall lead BSN into a glorious new future.

Remember, the EMPEROR PROTECTS!

 

[Lotion Soronarr]

Now I belive the time is right to anounce my new Cabinet members:

 

- Minister of Manufacturing: Archer

- Minister of Foreign Relations: Jang Wen-Li

- Minister of Education: Onizuka

- Minister of Halthcare: Dr. Tenma

- Ministers of Economics: Lawrence & Holo

- Intelligence Services: L & Aizen

- Minsters of War: Rambo, Sasuke Sagura, Guts and my avatar, Chuck Norris

- In charge of Personell Managment & Office dress code: Colonel Roy Mustang

- In charge of Exterminatus: Virus Bomb

[Morty Smith]

Declaring oneself king is a fool´s delusion, but I thought the "god-emperor" might show his true colors sooner then later.

 

I demand that votes declare the outcome, how it was allways meant to be. It´s the people´s choice who leads and represents them.

 

 

Don´t let yourself be ruled by a fool who declares himself above your opinion BSN.

 

Support the chancellor. The one who still reaches out to you and fights for your heart.

 

#ChancellorRunner4President

[Lotion Soronarr]

Since when is anouncing one plan for Cabinet member positions an immoral act?

 

And let us not forget that Darth Vader has STILL not found any proper legal counter to his illegal attempt to run for president. Only those born on Terra can be president.

[The Love Runner]

Your knowledge of the universe is pitiful. By tapping into the force you have but wet your toes on the shores of a deep ocean. I have navigated the Empyrian and battled eldricht abominations long before you were born.
You presume to lecture me about the nature of the universe. All of your knowledge and power is nothing more than a tiny match, barely illuminating a feet of darkness in front of you. You are still blind, but confident.
My knowledge is like the sun, basking everything in revealing light. The nature of the universe and the course of time and dimensions is known to me.

Reason is what made our inventions possible. No amount of hope or determination can replace understanding - something you seem to clearly lack.
And no, I am not downplaying the value of emotions, it is you who wish to twist my words to make it sound so.
I have seen wonders of the cosmos beyond your imagining. Things hidden beyond the sights of mortal men. I have seen everything.

I have conquered the entire galaxy in 200 years. I united the scattered remains of humanity, risen them from the precipice of anihhilation and given them back their glory. I have brought back science and reason and ushered a new golden age for humanity.
I think that fits the definition of "to boldly go".
What have you done in your life to advance the human race?
You destroyed the very Republic you swore loyalty to, betrayed the people who trusted you and hunted down the remaining Jedi and your friends. You have been an instrument of destruction, nothing more. You built nothing. You created nothing. You expanded nothing, least of all the human condition.
A wise man hopes for the best, but prepares for the worst. You, Vader, are not a wise man.

On the contrary, it is exactly because I accept that concept that I act to safeguard humanity.
But I am glad you at least admit that alien civilizations will prioritize their interests over those of humanity.
 
As for my fleets, I'd say they are very effective, given that they accomplished more then yours ever will.
 
You Vader, are not even a match for one of my librarians.

If you truly knew everything about the universe, you would have exploded like Irina Spalko did in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Having the highest Midichlorian count allows me to have the strongest connection to the Force, thereby experiencing all that you have and more. You also claim that I can't understand the reason behind our inventions, but you can't understand what the people want. You are blind for not seeing what they want.

Your claim that you have conquered the galaxy means that you didn't give life forms a choice. You just inserted yourself into their lives without giving a damn what they wanted. We never lost science, it was in us all along. You want to know what choices Vader made for humanity? He saved his son, Luke Skywalker, from dying by disposing of Palpatine, sacrificing his life to bring back the Jedi Council and allow the Republic to reform, better than it was before. He is also not alone, having his sister Leia and former freelancer Han assist in the rebuilding. Vader, or Anakin, as that is his true name, should be proud, as I am proud of him.

You accepting ONLY the concept of war disappoints me. Have fun taking lives while I save them.

[The Love Runner]

Now I belive the time is right to anounce my new Cabinet members:
 
- Minister of Manufacturing: Archer
- Minister of Foreign Relations: Jang Wen-Li
- Minister of Education: Onizuka
- Minister of Halthcare: Dr. Tenma
- Ministers of Economics: Lawrence & Holo
- Intelligence Services: L & Aizen
- Minsters of War: Rambo, Sasuke Sagura, Guts and my avatar, Chuck Norris
- In charge of Personell Managment & Office dress code: Colonel Roy Mustang
- In charge of Exterminatus: Virus Bomb

All of you...

[The Love Runner]

It seems my opponents, unable to stand against the might of the God-Emperor, have left the debate.
Of course. It is as I have foreseen.
This conclusion was inevitable.
 
The Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind, the anathema of Chaos, shall lead BSN into a glorious new future.
Remember, the EMPEROR PROTECTS!

So, in other words, "screw the other candidates while I take everything by force regardless of the official outcome".

Since when is announcing one plan for Cabinet member positions an immoral act?

And let us not forget that Darth Vader has STILL not found any proper legal counter to his illegal attempt to run for president. Only those born on Terra can be president.

You don't announce Cabinet members until AFTER you are elected, dumb-butt.

Also, way to endorse Xenophobia.

[Lotion Soronarr]

If you truly knew everything about the universe, you would have exploded like Irina Spalko did in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Having the highest Midichlorian count allows me to have the strongest connection to the Force, thereby experiencing all that you have and more. You also claim that I can't understand the reason behind our inventions, but you can't understand what the people want. You are blind for not seeing what they want.

 

Please..only limited minds like yours explode.

Every day I literally do a million tasks while simoultaneously navigating the Empyrian and battling Chaos. My mind would put all your super-computers to shame. You're more like a Commodore 64.

You, experiencing all that I have? Oh, child. Your naivite and bravado would bring a smile to my face if I wasted my time laughing at fools. If I were to show you a fraction of what I knew, your brain would ceaase to function out of sheer trauma.
 

Did you forget that I can instantaneously and simoultenously read the mind of everyone on the planet? Did you forget I can gaze into ones very soul?

Tell me Chancellor, which one of us does not understand the people? Your empire crumbles as the people rebelled agaisnt you.

 

Your claim that you have conquered the galaxy means that you didn't give life forms a choice. You just inserted yourself into their lives without giving a damn what they wanted. We never lost science, it was in us all along. You want to know what choices Vader made for humanity? He saved his son, Luke Skywalker, from dying by disposing of Palpatine, sacrificing his life to bring back the Jedi Council and allow the Republic to reform, better than it was before.
You accepting ONLY the concept of war disappoints me. Have fun taking lives while I save them.

 

It means nothing of a sort. Conquest can take many forms. I re-united humanty and saved if from extinction.

Science is in us? What kind of fell-good nonsense is that? Alas, we did lose science. The dark age of Technology was a but a fleeting memory when I took over. In the span of a few hundered year, humanity went from scattered, isolated, barbaric planets to a stable and ordered galactic empire. None of your achievements come close.

 

Vader died so the republic could be rebuilt? Are you implying he was impeeding the Republic by being alive? Not exactly a positive.

Also, the stories of his sacrifice are cleary a myth if he is runnign for president. Dead men can't run for president. Or was the entire sacrafice a publicity stunt? An attempt to white-wash a war criminal and allow him to live hidden somewhere else?

 

At this point I think I really will start laughing.

Who's life have you saved Chancellor? I'm waiting....

[Lotion Soronarr]

So, in other words, "screw the other candidates while I take everything by force regardless of the official outcome".


You don't announce Cabinet members until AFTER you are elected, dumb-butt.

Also, way to endorse Xenophobia.

 

 

Oh? Have I used the Force? (pun fully intended) I mearly stated that the conclusion is inevitable, as it is.

 

 

Vader, I am a free man. I can announce my plans for humantiy at any stage I desire.

 

And no, that's not xenophobia. It's called common sense. You're running for president and thus must abide by the laws. If I were to put my helmet for running, would you mentioning that only living beings can run for president be a phobia (of inanimate objects)?

[The Love Runner]

Please..only limited minds like yours explode.
Every day I literally do a million tasks while simoultaneously navigating the Empyrian and battling Chaos. My mind would put all your super-computers to shame. You're more like a Commodore 64.
You, experiencing all that I have? Oh, child. Your naivite and bravado would bring a smile to my face if I wasted my time laughing at fools. If I were to show you a fraction of what I knew, your brain would ceaase to function out of sheer trauma.
 
Did you forget that I can instantaneously and simoultenously read the mind of everyone on the planet? Did you forget I can gaze into ones very soul?
Tell me Chancellor, which one of us does not understand the people? Your empire crumbles as the people rebelled agaisnt you.

It means nothing of a sort. Conquest can take many forms. I re-united humanty and saved if from extinction.
Science is in us? What kind of fell-good nonsense is that? Alas, we did lose science. The dark age of Technology was a but a fleeting memory when I took over. In the span of a few hundered year, humanity went from scattered, isolated, barbaric planets to a stable and ordered galactic empire. None of your achievements come close.
 
Vader died so the republic could be rebuilt? Are you implying he was impeeding the Republic by being alive? Not exactly a positive.
Also, the stories of his sacrifice are cleary a myth if he is runnign for president. Dead men can't run for president. Or was the entire sacrafice a publicity stunt? An attempt to white-wash a war criminal and allow him to live hidden somewhere else?
 
At this point I think I really will start laughing.
Who's life have you saved Chancellor? I'm waiting....


Oh? Have I used the Force? (pun fully intended) I mearly stated that the conclusion is inevitable, as it is.

Vader, I am a free man. I can announce my plans for humantiy at any stage I desire.
 
And no, that's not xenophobia. It's called common sense. You're running for president and thus must abide by the laws. If I were to put my helmet for running, would you mentioning that only living beings can run for president be a phobia (of inanimate objects)?

You claim you are human, so you would also have the limitations of humanity. Way to belittle me and the rest of us for not being up to your perceived standards. Also, you have failed to allow us to keep our basic rights, like privacy, by reading our minds. I already brought this up earlier, and you failed to address this, so I feel like I'm arguing in circles with you about this particular detail. I guess you wants us to give up our rights for your security.

You know what one of the subjects in science is? Biology. The entire space-time continuum is made by matter, and everything can be described by terms given to us in science. Science is not solely defined by technology, and you fail to see how wonderful and unique each one of us is.

Vader is alive through the Force. He wouldn't be with the Force if his redemption was not valid. Palpatine was the bigger crisis, he would have killed Luke and ensured that the Empire still lived had Vader not intervened. Luke saw good in Anakin, it was proven to be correct, yet you cannot accept this fact. I guess saving his son doesn't count for you.

You also continue to think this conclusion is the one true future, when I brought up how the future is ever-changing and that any one of all possible futures could come to pass. It's another issue I'm arguing in circles with you because of your limited understanding of time.

And, no, I would not disqualify a helmet from participating. Know why? Because I did not object to the entries of Salt Shaker and Su Lu Pi (along with her Decepticon army). You're bashing me for this detail, yet you are NOT bashing them. Way to be a hypocrite, Lotion.

[Lotion Soronarr]

You claim you are human, so you would also have the limitations of humanity. Way to belittle me and the rest of us for not being up to your perceived standards. Also, you have failed to allow us to keep our basic rights, like privacy, by reading our minds. I already brought this up earlier, and you failed to address this, so I feel like I'm arguing in circles with you about this particular detail. I guess you wants us to give up our rights for your security.

 

I am beyond human. The term "New Man" ring a bell? I am what humanty will eventually become.

 

And yes, I can read minds. What of it? Am I reading your mind right now? Maybe I am, mabye I'm not.* There's no way for you to know. Just like there's no way for people to know if you're trying to manipulate them using Force Suggestion. Are you going to excuse yourself then too?

 

*I'm not. There's no point. I can read you like an open book without it.

 

You know what one of the subjects in science is? Biology. The entire space-time continuum is made by matter, and everything can be described by terms given to us in science. Science is not solely defined by technology, and you fail to see how wonderful and unique each one of us is.

 

You seem to be going on unrelated tangets.

Talking about wonderful uniqueness as if it somehow relates to anything.

 

Hmm...maybe I should send you on a trip to the Eye of Terror. I'm interested how you would describe it in scientifical terms.

 

Vader is alive through the Force. He wouldn't be with the Force if his redemption was not valid. Palpatine was the bigger crisis, he would have killed Luke and ensured that the Empire still lived had Vader not intervened. Luke saw good in Anakin, it was proven to be correct, yet you cannot accept this fact. I guess saving his son doesn't count for you.

 

One single act of questionable kindness (after all ,he was his son) after a lifetime or crimes, murder and cruelty.

Forgive me if I don't build Vader a monument.

 

You also continue to think this conclusion is the one true future, when I brought up how the future is ever-changing and that any one of all possible futures could come to pass. It's another issue I'm arguing in circles with you because of your limited understanding of time.

 

*sigh*

yes, yes...

The 50000+ year old immortal being that defies physics on a regular basis and fights gods does not understand time...quite.

 

 

And, no, I would not disqualify a helmet from participating. Know why? Because I did not object to the entries of Salt Shaker and Su Lu Pi (along with her Decepticon army). You're bashing me for this detail, yet you are NOT bashing them. Way to be a hypocrite, Lotion.

 

Decepticons are sentient.

A helmet is not.

 

Again you are trying to play the emotions insted of followring the rule.

The law means nothing to you, that was established.

 

But then again, what to expect from someone who fell to Chaos and defies Order?
 

[Sully13]

Vote Decepticon and we will abollish ellections. 

[Isichar]

I vote for Sim.

Godoka have mercy on my soul.