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#501
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Are Reapers even aware of the Genophage?  You'd think they would just reinstall a more advanced variant to the krogan, or get the idea, to apply a similar plague to all other species.

 

Guess that can be chalked up to their typically linear train of thought preventing them from deviating from the regular routine, or thinking outside the box.

 

They probably don't care. The Genophage virus is just for population control. It also makes a mess of the victim's DNA. The reapers's goal is to harvest DNA that they deem acceptable, incompatible individuals are either killed or turned into husks.

 

Harbinger: “Krogan; sterilised race, potential wasted.”

 

The reapers were using the Shroud Tower to poison Tuchanka's atmosphere, so harvesting for DNA is out of the question, at best they'd use them to make more brutes. Or just kill the krogan to deny the organics their best shock troops.



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Physics incoming...

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After 30 milliseconds, the slug has already lost over 99% of it's kinetic energy.

The projectile hits the ground at x=0 after 257 milliseconds with a velocity of 42.3 km/s and a kinetic energy of 18 billion Joule, which is about 4.3 tons of TNT equivalent.  That means that the slug has about the same energy as a large conventional bomb, however almost all of that energy will be absorbed by the ground resulting in minimal shrapnel and blast.

 

Wouldn't much of the 'lost' energy go into the shockwave generated by the supersonic projectile, and still do considerable damage* in a small radius?

 

*at least to rather squishy or maybe brittle materials



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I appreciate the work you put into it, even if I didn't follow the entire thing.

 

What about real life concepts of kinetic bombardments? Specifically those telephone poles from space?

 

They have a much higher mass and are therefore much less effected by drag. However they are also pretty much only useful at destroying fortified structures, not moving enemy forces. The idea that you can replace conventional bombs with kinetic impactors, is wrong.



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Wouldn't much of the 'lost' energy go into the shockwave generated by the supersonic projectile, and still do considerable damage* in a small radius?

 

*at least to rather squishy or maybe brittle materials

 

You mean the shockwave in the upper atmosphere? That will have an energy of about 38 kilotons of TNT equivalent. Which at altitudes of 25-50 km isn't nearly enough to do any significant damage. A creative use however would be to use it as an anti aircraft gun.

On the ground you're not going to have much of a shockwave at all. The projectile will just slam into the ground creating a small crater and you maybe will get some debris flying to the side, depending on the terrain. Sure, standing right next to it could kill you, but the kill radius is pretty small. smaller than that of a handgranade, I would guess.


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What about a "shotgun blast" from space then? Blanketing an area with millions of tiny flechettes?

 

Or otherwise (if tiny darts will simply burn in the atmosphere) causing a large projectile to disintegrate into many smaller projectiles, essentially dispersing its kinetic energy in a cone.

 

But yeah, I can see why the fixation on kinetic penetrators is a problem.


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What about a "shotgun blast" from space then? Blanketing an area with millions of tiny flechettes?

 

Or otherwise (if tiny darts will simply burn in the atmosphere) causing a large projectile to disintegrate into many smaller projectiles, essentially dispersing its kinetic energy in a cone.

 

If you somehow managed to build a projectile which disintegrated at an altitude of about 10 km, when the worst of the reentry is over, you could probably increase the kill radius significantly and make the weapon more effective against infantary. But it's still not going to be anywhere near as effective as conventional bomb of a similar yield, like a BLU-82.

 

But yeah, I can see why the fixation on kinetic penetrators is a problem.

 

Not only that, the fixation on extremely high velocity instead of mass is even stupider. Drag has a quadratic dependincy on velocity, also a light object is more affected by drag than a heavier one. That means that a light and fast projectile will lose significantly more energy through drag than a similar slow and heavy one. Which makes most MEU weapons pretty stupid, considering there is no real reason on why you couldn't use a slower and more massive projectile outside of space combat. The writers probably just wanted every possible technolgy to work through the ME and have the entire galaxy evolve around eezo, not spending any thought on how little sense that actually makes.

 

For example: The telephone poles from space you mentioned above are accelerated by nothing but gravity and they have a higher kinetic energy than the dreadnought slug simply because the have more mass.


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How did the kid get through the locked door? When watching the scene, the door opens, with the orange lock still on it, just as the kid runs through.


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How did the kid get through the locked door? When watching the scene, the door opens, with the orange lock still on it, just as the kid runs through.

 

Kid's got superpowers...

 

Seriously, the whole scene was so awkward and inorganic that they might as well have removed it. (and those tiresome dreams)

I never felt anything for this kid, not even on the first time.



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What was the deal with Normandy and that car in Citadel DLC? Why Normandy couldn't simply ram through it?

What was the point of preventing FTL in the first place? Original Shepard draws power from Citadel or what?



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If Nihlus put Shepard's name forward to become a Spectre, then what are Udina, Hackett and Anderson talking about in the opening cinematic of Mass Effect?

 

Why are crashed probes in Mass Effect filled with top of the line weapon and armour mods?

 

Since Shepard somehow got the memo on thermal clips being implemented, how did he not know that the change had apparently rendered armour unnecessary? (And were the rest of the ME2 team mocking him behind his back for still using it? :lol: )

 

Thresher Maws. Was someone intentionally carrying them to other worlds or something?


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Thresher Maws. Was someone intentionally carrying them to other worlds or something?

 

There's a codex entry in ME1 that says they can live in any climate and that they've been getting around the galaxy because their spores wind up on spacecraft and get carried off to other planets. So, I guess basically yeah, except unintentionally.


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There's a codex entry in ME1 that says they can live in any climate and that they've been getting around the galaxy because their spores wind up on spacecraft and get carried off to other planets. So, I guess basically yeah, except unintentionally.

 

I find it hard to believe that such a large and complex lifeform is so adaptable. Usually the largest animals are the most vulnerable to enviromental changes.



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I find it hard to believe that such a large and complex lifeform is so adaptable. Usually the largest animals are the most vulnerable to enviromental changes.

 

Not to mention that many of the words you find them on are completely barren and otherwise lifeless. Megafauna need large ecosystems to support them. I could see Thresher Maws on a garden world, where perhaps they are eating other large animals, but on some words you find them they should be starving to death. 


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Has anyone talk about the Normandy Crash Site yet? Does anyone ever explain why on earth it took two years for the Alliance to track down Normandy.. The mercs could find Shepard's dead body in a subzero planet, Legion could find Shepard's armor, Hackett could find Shepard's dogtags but not a freaking crash site and the remains? 


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I find it hard to believe that such a large and complex lifeform is so adaptable. Usually the largest animals are the most vulnerable to enviromental changes.

 

Yeah, true. I think it was even on an ice planet in ME1.



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Has anyone talk about the Normandy Crash Site yet? Does anyone ever explain why on earth it took two years for the Alliance to track down Normandy.. The mercs could find Shepard's dead body in a subzero planet, Legion could find Shepard's armor, Hackett could find Shepard's dogtags but not a freaking crash site and the remains? 

 

They were also able to recover the Normandy's crew that was trapped in the heart of the Terminus systems in a system full of uncharted worlds, given the normandy's postion at the time of destruction the escape pods must have gone to Alchera, makes you wonder why the collector didn't just grab them while they were down their, mostly humans any way.

 

Also why would the Alliance be concerend about ships going missing in the middle of the Terminus systems? Why do they even know that ships are missing in an otherwise uninhabited cluster far away from Alliance space? I thought terminus was so off limits, and nobody knew what was going on there.


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Not to mention that many of the words you find them on are completely barren and otherwise lifeless. Megafauna need large ecosystems to support them. I could see Thresher Maws on a garden world, where perhaps they are eating other large animals, but on some words you find them they should be starving to death. 

It does point out that they are mostly dormant, only popping out to feed.  Kinda like Sarlaac, so I'm guessing they survive by eating the occasional explorer.

But yeah the world descriptions rarely work.  Like one world in ME1 says never had water and they just worked on introducing water to the ecosystem.

So of course I land and find a cavern full of water like every other planet because cut and paste.



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Has anyone talk about the Normandy Crash Site yet? Does anyone ever explain why on earth it took two years for the Alliance to track down Normandy.. The mercs could find Shepard's dead body in a subzero planet, Legion could find Shepard's armor, Hackett could find Shepard's dogtags but not a freaking crash site and the remains? 

Or better question: Why didn't the alliance RETRIEVE the remains of their most advanced warship?

 

And the Mako looked completely intact, so why didn't we just pick that up? there's plenty of room in the SR2 to house it.



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Or better question: Why didn't the alliance RETRIEVE the remains of their most advanced warship?

 

And the Mako looked completely intact, so why didn't we just pick that up? there's plenty of room in the SR2 to house it.

Because we get the Hammerhead, far superior to the Mako



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I wonder how they are going to explain the return of a wheeled vehicle (new mako) in a universe that replaced most ground vehicles with air-cars.


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I wonder how they are going to explain the return of a wheeled vehicle (new mako) in a universe that replaced most ground vehicles with air-cars.

Nostalgia > logic i guess... even though the mako was awful, the Hammerhead was far more enjoyable to drive...



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Nostalgia > logic i guess... even though the mako was awful, the Hammerhead was far more enjoyable to drive...

 

But why? I would much rather fly a shuttle and do some strafing runs over a thresher maw or two.(and what's with that, the new mako is unarmed?)

The fact that ME ignores in-universe logic many times for the rule-of-cool, never really appealed to me.


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But why? I would much rather fly a shuttle and do some strafing runs over a thresher maw or two.(and what's with that, the new mako is unarmed?)

The fact that ME ignores in-universe logic many times for the rule-of-cool, never really appealed to me.

Maybe the new Mako will be used for gimmicky/linear exploration/escape segments rather than driving around large map chunks like before. I assume BW "thinks" people miss the Mako stuff from ME1



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But why? I would much rather fly a shuttle and do some strafing runs over a thresher maw or two.(and what's with that, the new mako is unarmed?)

The fact that ME ignores in-universe logic many times for the rule-of-cool, never really appealed to me.

 

Because ground forces still fullfill an important role in modern combined arms warfare? A gunship on it's own is an easy target.

You could argue that for the Normandies mission an armed shuttle might have been a better choice than an IFV, but I don't see how the existance of the Mako somehow ignores in-universe logic.



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Because ground forces still fullfill an important role in modern combined arms warfare? A gunship on it's own is an easy target.

You could argue that for the Normandies mission an armed shuttle might have been a better choice than an IFV, but I don't see how the existance of the Mako somehow ignores in-universe logic.

When we have the Hammerhead it invalidates the relevance of the Mako. Hover/Flight capability trumps wheels, this does seem like a Logic issue to me