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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Add another "death" for Shepard at Rannoch then: the fall - another "No One Could Have Survived That!" And the main gun on the destroyer firing at the rocks all around Shepard yet not doing a thing to them. We were talking about using them as armor at one time.

[Iakus]

Yeah, the the way "translation" works in the ME universe makes very little sense.

They just made everyone speak English and handwaved it away with "implanted translators".

 

Babel fish.

 

Duh 

[themikefest]

If Kirrahe is alive in ME3 and Thane wasn't recruited or died in ME2, Kirrahe will say he's been assigned security detail for the councilor. If Thane is in ME3, Kirrahe won't make that comment. Why? How would anyone know that Thane would help the councilor during the coup? Had Kirrahe been with the councilor, the standoff with Kai Leng would've played out much differently or at least I would believe it would.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Reasons, my friend. Reasons.

 

And if neither Kirrahe or Thane are alive then Kai Leng was assigned security!

[themikefest]

Reasons, my friend. Reasons.

 

And if neither Kirrahe or Thane are alive then Kai Leng was assigned security!

Very true

[Vanilka]

Add another "death" for Shepard at Rannoch then: the fall - another "No One Could Have Survived That!" And the main gun on the destroyer firing at the rocks all around Shepard yet not doing a thing to them. We were talking about using them as armor at one time.

 

Yeah, I've also always wondered why the destroyer doesn't shoot horizontally. (Although I think I know the answer.) Given the small space Shepard has to manoeuvre there, with nowhere to run or hide, one horizontal blast would get the job done. I hate we get confined on that cliff like that in the first place. Such a small place, no cover, it simply relies on the Reaper acting retarded. No idea why not stay on the geth vessel which must at least move much faster than Shepard, if we must get all close and personal. Especially with Legion behind the "wheel". Not saying that taking out a Reaper on foot isn't cool and all, I'll take it, but it was pretty ridiculous.

 

I generally feel like the Reapers must have some funny design flaw that gives them trouble aiming sideways. Many of the Reapers we face only shoot vertically, being able to adjust very little when the target moves to the side. Like the destroyer in London or even Harbinger.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

See we know the real reason the Quarians wanted to take back Rannoch. It had nothing to do with the Geth. It was the minerals in those rocks. They were going to build bunkers that would be impervious to reaper fire, go into cryo-sleep, and wait out the horrors of the reaper invasion.

 

With the Council occupied with the reaper invasion, it was the perfect time to attack the Geth! The Council would not attack the Migrant Fleet. Koris was a suit wetter and Geth sympathizer. He couldn't see the big picture. That fight with the reaper on Rannoch gave away the Quarian's secret. Minerals!

 

But that had to be one of the most frustrating boss fights ever. It took me two hours to finally beat that thing and I finally had to watch someone do it on Youtube. Yet I finished the final boss in Destiny with my Warlock solo on very hard and died six times, but being a sunsinger kept self-resurrecting and won. Well two of those deaths I fell to death - that's one way of replenishing ammo. And my mission reward? A crappy auto-rifle - a real crappy auto-rifle. I love that game: weak plot, mindless shooting, superb environments, very good AI.

[Vanilka]

AHA! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! I underestimated them sneaky Quarians.

 

 

That fight is not exactly intuitive, imho. I didn't understand the mechanics at first and died a few times, as well. It might sound dumb, but I did not realise that I could simply stop targeting and move around. I assumed the targeting process would reset. So I kept dodge-rolling and targeting the whole time thinking, "THIS IS DUUUMB!". Hell, that's how I won that fight for the first time. In hindsight, kind of embarrassing. Only later I found out I don't have to target the whole time.

 

What's even worse about that particular fight is that during the last part, the mechanics changes again. At first, it's enough to aim without much precision. During the last part, suddenly you need to aim precisely in the "eye".

 

It's mostly hard because it's freaking confusing and you're just thrown into the water without knowing how to swim, so to speak.

 

I have less trouble with it now. I just keep sprinting from right to left and from left to right to avoid the beam and target the Reaper when I can. I've only played on Normal so far, though. Not sure how difficulty setting changes the fight.

[themikefest]

The reaper on Rannoch was lame. When first fired on, it fell over. At that point its destroyed. I guess Bioware wanted more. So the thing gets back up. Shepard paints the target. It gets fired at. What happens? Remember the first time it got fired upon? It fell over. Why didn't it do that the next three times? Finally when Shepard can get on her tipy-toes and kiss the thing, it falls over. Shepard should be dust after that. Why not? Its something you cannot comprehend. 

[Vanilka]

Well, Sovereign did say the Reapers were beyond our comprehension. Guess it's actually one of these things he had in mind.

[themikefest]

Just as Harbinger fires his beam in Shepards direction, no one is seen in front of him/her. When Shepard gets up, 5 bodies can be seen in front of him/her. 

 

https://youtu.be/Ce0mdYBU-Gs?t=3m51s

[birefringent]

I generally feel like the Reapers must have some funny design flaw that gives them trouble aiming sideways. Many of the Reapers we face only shoot vertically, being able to adjust very little when the target moves to the side. Like the destroyer in London or even Harbinger.

It makes very little sense if you compare to what Sovereign in ME1 could do.

 

A couple of screenshots to show how badass Sovy was. 

Spoiler

Sovereign has nearly 360 degree fire potential with all them tentacles.

 

Imagine if they actually did this in ME3 instead of all just standing still in a line. With the speed that the Reapers can move, they could easily destroy a large part of the galactic fleet when it comes to Earth.

 

Would've been fun to see some of the capital ships do some ramming head-on like Sovereign does when it attacks the Citadel.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Just as Harbinger fires his beam in Shepards direction, no one is seen in front of him/her. When Shepard gets up, 5 bodies can be seen in front of him/her. 

 

https://youtu.be/Ce0mdYBU-Gs?t=3m51s

 

It's stuff like  that which made IT such a hit.

[Ahriman]

 

Imagine if they actually did this in ME3 instead of all just standing still in a line. With the speed that the Reapers can move, they could easily destroy a large part of the galactic fleet when it comes to Earth.

 

Would've been fun to see some of the capital ships do some ramming head-on like Sovereign does when it attacks the Citadel.

Bah, don't remind me. They were clearly drunk after London. There was even scene where cruiser evades reaper ray, but cruiser starts moving when it's already missed. Reaper can't hit cruiser which stands still, the horror. Shepard just put them out of misery.

[Vortex13]

Bah, don't remind me. They were clearly drunk after London. There was even scene where cruiser evades reaper ray, but cruiser starts moving when it's already missed. Reaper can't hit cruiser which stands still, the horror. Shepard just put them out of misery.

 

 

Agreed. The Reapers in ME 3 weren't technologically superior, they just had 'god mode' enabled. Charging head first in bum rush tactics is not something that you do even if you have your opponent outclassed.

 

The Catalyst says that each Reaper is the preserved essence of a species, and that its only purpose is to save or preserve such species. If that's the case, why is it putting that invaluable data; the sole reason for its existence directly into harms way; and then having the cosmic jelly jar fly in a straight line at it's foes and attempt to deflect their bullets with its face?

 

The Reapers didn't need to have overwhelming numbers to be a serious threat. 10 - 15 Reapers like Sovereign; with his capabilities and tactical intelligence; would have made for a far greater villainous force. 

[themikefest]

The problem with Sovereign is that had Hackett positioned all the ships behind the reaper, its possible none of them would've been destroyed. Its also funny seeing that some of the ships aren't even facing Sovereign to fire at it.

 

The scene with the fleets going to Earth should've played out the same as low ems no matter what you ems is. The other thing is all the fleets were bunched together making themselves easy targets.  It was a very poor plan. The reason why it worked is because the reapers had to be made stupid. 

[Vortex13]

Here's something that never made sense to me.

 

During the Rachni Wars, it is said that the Citadel species were unable to communicate with the Queens, and that, coupled with the Krogan's bloodlust is what most likely led to their (supposed) extinction. But the Queen in ME 1 - 3 is able to puppet master any nearly dead body around her, or even to speak through a willing host from across the galaxy. How is it that the Citadel species didn't notice this? I can assume that maybe the controlling effects behind the Rachni could have kept them from speaking, but even the Reapers and Leviathans liked to flaunt their stuff through various avatars. 

 

Even if it wasn't for communication purposes, maybe just the Queens enacting a little psychological warfare, it seems odd that this feature of Rachni physiology went undocumented.

 

 

And speaking of that manipulation effect, the lore is never really clear on the range that the queens can influence weak willed or willing subjects. We can see that the Queen in ME 1 was capable of making the Asari release her from confinement, if the player chooses to kill the Rachni, and we can see that the Krogan surrounding the Queen's nest in ME 3 were all able to be influenced as well. We could assume that a Rachni thrall could be capable of manipulating weapons, so how is it that we don't have accounts of a 'sorta-zombie' uprising on battlefields or hospitals close to the fighting? 

 

If there is no effective limit to a Queen's or group of Queens' influence in this area, then wouldn't that make the Rachni almost approachable to the Reapers and Leviathans in terms of their potential dominance over other species?

[Ahriman]

Here's something that never made sense to me.

 

During the Rachni Wars, it is said that the Citadel species were unable to communicate with the Queens, and that, coupled with the Krogan's bloodlust is what most likely led to their (supposed) extinction. But the Queen in ME 1 - 3 is able to puppet master any nearly dead body around her, or even to speak through a willing host from across the galaxy. How is it that the Citadel species didn't notice this? I can assume that maybe the controlling effects behind the Rachni could have kept them from speaking, but even the Reapers and Leviathans liked to flaunt their stuff through various avatars.

Because queens were deep underground where only not-so-talkative krogans could get. It was mentioned somewhere in the Codex.

[Vortex13]

Because queens were deep underground where only not-so-talkative krogans could get. It was mentioned somewhere in the Codex.

 

 

I know that direct communication was never instigated, but why weren't there reports of dying soldiers getting up and attacking their former comrades? That seems like a viable strategy that could have helped the Rachni, but we never hear about it being used.

[Laughing_Man]

I know that direct communication was never instigated, but why weren't there reports of dying soldiers getting up and attacking their former comrades? That seems like a viable strategy that could have helped the Rachni, but we never hear about it being used.

 

This pseudo necromancy simply came out of nowhere, without being properly explained - probably solely to provide shock value.

 

Considering the fact that ME is a Sci-Fi without magic, "necromancy" by the Rachni and Psychometry by Javik should have never made an appearance.

 

You can't just handwave everything with entangled particles and pheromones, too implausible.

[Vortex13]

This pseudo necromancy simply came out of nowhere, without being properly explained - probably solely to provide shock value.

 

Considering the fact that ME is a Sci-Fi without magic, "necromancy" by the Rachni and Psychometry by Javik should have never made an appearance.

 

You can't just handwave everything with entangled particles and pheromones, too implausible.

 

 

True. Though if we were to get rid of mind control and evil (space) magic, the Reapers and Leviathans never would have been a threat to us. Sovereign wouldn't have been able to indoctrinate Saren, the government of Kar'shan never would have been subverted, and going into ancient history, the Leviathans never would have been able to enthrall other species, and would therefore never had an incentive to bring about the Reapers in the first place.

 

Going back to the Rachni, I don't think it's actual necromancy on their part to be fair. Every time we have seen them manipulating other species it has been those that are very near death, or those willing to be a conduit. It's still an ability that pops up out of nowhere, but its not like the Rachni can employ actual zombies to fight for them. That's the Reapers' forte.

[Ahriman]

I know that direct communication was never instigated, but why weren't there reports of dying soldiers getting up and attacking their former comrades? That seems like a viable strategy that could have helped the Rachni, but we never hear about it being used.

They can always say that 'necromancy' is short ranged, at least we never saw the opposite.

[Vortex13]

They can always say that 'necromancy' is short ranged, at least we never saw the opposite.

 

 

Good point.

 

Maybe their ability to forcibly dominate another species is limited to nearby, weak willed individuals, whereas the use of a willing host is much farther ranged? 

 

Hmm, now that I am thinking about it, maybe it has something to do with Asari physiology? Maybe, due to their natural 'melding' qualities the Queens are able to tap into an Asari's frequency more easily than some other species.

[Laughing_Man]

True. Though if we were to get rid of mind control and evil (space) magic, the Reapers and Leviathans never would have been a threat to us. Sovereign wouldn't have been able to indoctrinate Saren, the government of Kar'shan never would have been subverted, and going into ancient history, the Leviathans never would have been able to enthrall other species, and would therefore never had an incentive to bring about the Reapers in the first place.

 

Mind control is very likely possible, even today. It's just less... arcane than what most people think it would be.

Instead of giant glowing otherworldly artifacts, you need to use drugs, and various methods of mind washing and conditioning.

The human brain is very fragile after all.

 

I remember even reading that scientists managed to initiate some very basic form of mind control by connecting a group of volunteers

to special electrode lined headwear, in order to influence their answers on moral questions that were presented to them by applying

tiny shocks to specific parts of the brain.

 

So is it really so unbelievable that ancient races of beings with full god-mode on would be able to develop certain types of signals to subvert the brains of organics? True, they would probably need to "calibrate" them to each specific race, but still...

[Monica21]

Why are Anderson, Hackett, and Udina all talking about Shepard being the only one who can save humanity when all they're doing is picking up a Prothean beacon?